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Will $23,000/yr for Programmer affect my career path?
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DaveSimmons
Elite Member
My first developer salary was higher than that ten years ago, also at a small company.
I could maybe see accepting $36K for an entry-level position in a low cost of living area, but $23K is absurdly low.
I could maybe see accepting $36K for an entry-level position in a low cost of living area, but $23K is absurdly low.
TommyVercetti
Diamond Member
Still, how do they really know?
Don't take the job. You should be making 2 to 3 times that much.
Basically they are treating you like crap before you even accepted the job by giving you this lowball POS they call an offer. Why do you want to join a company that thinks you are worthless?
Let me guess, their medical coverage is a box of band-aids and a bottle of Ny-Quil a year? 😀
Basically they are treating you like crap before you even accepted the job by giving you this lowball POS they call an offer. Why do you want to join a company that thinks you are worthless?
Let me guess, their medical coverage is a box of band-aids and a bottle of Ny-Quil a year? 😀
EMPshockwave82
Diamond Member
ask them if it doubles after year one and then you get the same raise after year two 😛... 23000 turned to 46000 and then up to 69000 wouldnt be bad... but other than that... it's a REALLY lowball offer...
It doesn't make a difference because any halfway smart and prudent person going into a job interview would walk in armed with salary.com and other #s describing average pay for that position. You should also know the size of the company because if it?s a large company you?re probably entitled to more money. Say something along the lines of here?s what the average person with my skills and education is worth, I?m not average, I?m worth more. Also, if they ask you what you made at your last job you DO NOT have to tell them. Don?t as it?s none of their business and the only thing that they could ever do with that is lowball you. Just say what I made there is irrelevant and I?m sure they don?t appreciate a former employee telling the world what their pay scale is.
The other thing is I always turn questions back on the interviewer. If they ask how much I made at my last job I'd ask them first of all how much they make and how much the last guy at that position made. If you have to answer how much you made at your last job they should have to answer how much the last guy at your position got paid.
AgaBoogaBoo
Lifer
I don't know if this was said, but with only $23k, there's a lot of room for an increase. Work really hard and show them you're worth a TON more than that salary, after two or three months tell them you want an increase in pay.
puppykitten
Member
Exactly the same situation as mine. Every recruiter is talking about 5 years experience, 10 years experience, blah....
Maybe that is why this company only offer this low to new grads.
DT4K
Diamond Member
That is definitely low, but from what I've seen, the market still sucks big time.
I started as a software developer on a contract basis (temp) making $16/hr, 3 months before getting my BSCS degree in 2001.
9 months later, they raised my rate to $23/hr. 6 months after that(around june 2002), they made me the permanent offer of a little under 50k. Then I got a 5% raise in 2003.
This is in an area where the average 3 bdrm house is around 150k.
So I'd say that is a very very low offer, especially with a master's degree. But on the other hand, I've been thinking of leaving my current job and I've been getting almost no responses from anyone. So if it's the only thing you can find, it might be worth the experience. Just don't tell the next employer what your salary was.
I started as a software developer on a contract basis (temp) making $16/hr, 3 months before getting my BSCS degree in 2001.
9 months later, they raised my rate to $23/hr. 6 months after that(around june 2002), they made me the permanent offer of a little under 50k. Then I got a 5% raise in 2003.
This is in an area where the average 3 bdrm house is around 150k.
So I'd say that is a very very low offer, especially with a master's degree. But on the other hand, I've been thinking of leaving my current job and I've been getting almost no responses from anyone. So if it's the only thing you can find, it might be worth the experience. Just don't tell the next employer what your salary was.
ultimatebob
Lifer
Yes, taking that offer WILL effect your future career path. You'll need to put that pathetic salary on future job applications for at least 5 years after you leave that job, and any HR person with two brain cells to rub together will use that figure to lowball your future salary offers when you get hired.
Sorry man, but it's time to consider moving. Assuming that you have a good GPA, you should be able to get a 60K+ salary in either the NYC, San Francisco, or Washington DC/Baltimore metro areas.
Sorry man, but it's time to consider moving. Assuming that you have a good GPA, you should be able to get a 60K+ salary in either the NYC, San Francisco, or Washington DC/Baltimore metro areas.
opticalmace
Golden Member
Listen to this man.
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