Will 2008 be the ugliest election ever?

[DivideBYZero]

Hi.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I am sure your dad was saying the same thing post Watergate as Jimmy Carter become President. Little did he know that the Republicans would win 5 of the next 7 elections...

:laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: techs
By 2012 the divide in America will have shaken out. The Republicans will be a permanent minority party. (I could go into demographics, ageing population caring about SS, changing "values" which will weaken the Repubs with people less concerned about homosexuality, etc) At that point people won't really listen to what Republicans and their lackeys have to say. So the electoral mud will die down.

Do you realize that many of the GOP today were once banner-waving, liberal, peace & free-love hippies from the 60s and 70s?

For many people liing life tends to have an impact on their perspective. Idealism tends to lose its luster when you have to raise a family and race the rest of the rats. Assuming that Republicans will be a permanent minority party purely because of demographics is a bit foolish...and idealistic.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
With Rudy and Hillary running in 2008 I expect to see so much mud and dirty politics that by election day we will all be disgusted with both candidates and will either skip the election or plug our noses and vote for the lesser of two evils as it were.

I think Swiftboat and Memogate were just warm ups for the stuff we will see this time around. Hillary throwing plates at Bill and Rudy living with a woman while still married will just be the tip of the ice berg.

The only good thing about all this is that we might get lucky and see someone emerge between 2008 and 2012 that all Americans can be proud to call President. Just as Vietnam, Watergate and the malaise of Carter was followed by Reagan and his ?shinning city on a hill.? Or perhaps we have not yet hit bottom and will only see things get worse.

Yes I do and I expect to see a lot of the ugliness coming from you which in turn probably will cause others to lower themselves to your level (me included) and post the same ugliness.

Heh, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who finds it a little ironic that ProfJohn is starting a thread asking if this election will be ugly. That's a little like Tom Cruise asking if some crazy celebrity is going to go around ranting about Scientology.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hillary does NOT have this sewn up, even if Rudy wins the Rep. nomination, any more than Bush was bound to lose his second term. Forget Florida. It never should have been that close to begin with, but the Dems selected Kerry. It's as if they wanted to lose. Who will they probably pick this time? Hillary. People will come out just to vote AGAINST her, and they'll pick whatever POS the Reps come up with, just like the last election. Last time it wasn't about who you wanted President as much as who you did not want. This time it will be more so. Conservatives may not like Rudy (with good reason), but with Hillary? No contest.

No, this is too tough to call. PJ may be right in that there's plenty of mud. It may be all about who can hurl it best.

 

[StageLeft]

CRudy and Swillary will make this a mess and the people will lap up every bit of scrap off the floor like good little peons. I think the turnout will be higher because every republican on the planet detests Hillary and every Democrat detests republicans, both more than ever.

It's possible this won't be the match-up, though.

2012 will be worse because this country's political system is going down the sh*ter quickly with no sign of turning around.

The only good thing about all this is that we might get lucky and see someone emerge between 2008 and 2012 that all Americans can be proud to call President.

The only people running right now who could possibly fall into the role of being proud of them is Ron Paul and Obama, honest to God--and that is a BEST CASE scenario.

By 2012 the divide in America will have shaken out. The Republicans will be a permanent minority party.

And that, as much as I hate the republicans right now, will not bode well for the country's economic future. It is continually inexorably sliding toward more handouts, greater taxation and the accompanying weakening of the economy, as we see in the rest of the West.

The democrats are going to get a complete majority, and they are going to fuck it up just like the Republicans did, because thats what these rich scumbag lawyers do when they get power.

QFT

Yes I do and I expect to see a lot of the ugliness coming from you which in turn probably will cause others to lower themselves to your level (me included) and post the same ugliness.

Hehe

 

[teclis1023]

I'm so sick of politics, it makes me want to scream. I have voted for both Dems. and Repubs., but I have yet to see either party offer up a candidate who's not there to 'play the game.'

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: teclis1023
I'm so sick of politics, it makes me want to scream. I have voted for both Dems. and Repubs., but I have yet to see either party offer up a candidate who's not there to 'play the game.'

Then we need to change the rules.
Simple fix available. Corporations cannot donate to candidates nor advertise politically or else they lose their socialist exemption from liability of investors to bankruptcy laws.
Politics fixed.

 

[dyna]

I could see it being uglier.

1. democratic presidential candidate was gay and his/her selected vp was his/her partner.
2. Woman vs Woman <-- This would be all out war, cat fight.

 

[techs]

I blame Karl Rove.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: teclis1023
I'm so sick of politics, it makes me want to scream.

I have voted for both Dems. and Repubs., but I have yet to see either party offer up a candidate who's not there to 'play the game.'

You guys blew your chance.

I wanted to run but the country made it so only the rich can run.