Wikileaks to out Arab officials in ties with the US

[SamurAchzar]

From here

Julian Assange, founder of the whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks, said he holds the names of senior officials in the Arab world who visit US embassies in their respective countries voluntarily "to establish links" with the CIA.

"These officials are spies for the US in their countries," Assange said in the second part of his interview with Arab television network Al Jazeera. He said the leaked documents in his possession show that Arab officials reveal sensitive information on their colleagues and respective countries.

The WikiLeaks founder said the website would consider exposing the names of the Arab officials only if it would be certain it would not lead to their death.

Assange warned that the revelations may lead to dangerous coups in the Arab world. He added that WikiLeaks plans to reveal some 7,000 documents related to Egypt and its president, Hosni Mubarak.

Other leaked documents, he said, reveal information on the oil industry in the Arab world over the past few decades.

Nice, so now Assange is playing god. Of course, no one thinks these Arab officials are going to have "fair trials" - that is not a condition which often occurs in the Arab world - they will probably be facing death.

This is an interesting development as it means Assange is taking an active stance against US and its interests among the Arab world (and the interests of Arab regimes themselves). So far he could claim neutrality, but that's no longer the case.

 

[Genx87]

This guy will do what Bush couldnt. Truely destroy American diplomacy for decades.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Wikileaks to out Arab officials in ties with the US

The WikiLeaks founder said the website would consider exposing the names of the Arab officials only if it would be certain it would not lead to their death.

Will isn't may.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This guy will do what Bush couldnt. Truely destroy American diplomacy for decades.

And eat our babies!

 

[shiner]

I'm surprised the guy isn't dead yet.

Yeah, yeah poison pill to be released if he is killed. Blah, blah, blah....all that is resulting in is the extension of the inevitable. Dude is pissing off all the wrong people.

 

[Blackjack200]

Assange is in a bit of a pickle here, how can be be "sure" that it won't lead to their deaths? Only way I can think of is if he waits until they are already dead.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm surprised the guy isn't dead yet.

Yeah, yeah poison pill to be released if he is killed. Blah, blah, blah....all that is resulting in is the extension of the inevitable. Dude is pissing off all the wrong people.

It's about time someone does. Maybe it will be a few years longer before we "progress" into the French bureaucracy.

There's been much weeping and gnashing of teeth, but the worst thing so far is that Hillary has been embarrassed.

 

[SamurAchzar]

People got the chair for much less than what this guy and Pfc. Manning are responsible for.

 

[Blackjack200]

People got the chair for much less than what Clinton and Bush are responsible for.

fixed.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Assange is in a bit of a pickle here, how can be be "sure" that it won't lead to their deaths? Only way I can think of is if he waits until they are already dead.

I'm confident many of those Arabs who talked to US diplomats did that on the behalf of the regime, but now that the info is out, they'll get punished to please the anti-US mob.

 

[Scotteq]

IMHO - And with the understanding that some here will inevitably take exception



It's one thing to embarrass/piss off the USA.

It's another to piss off the... less restrained... nations of the world.

 

[SamurAchzar]

fixed.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall Assange and Pfc. Manning getting elected by the US public - or any other state - to enact a policy.

 

[Blackjack200]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall Assange and Pfc. Manning getting elected by the US public - or any other state - to enact a policy.

Does that change what they are responsible for?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall Martin Luther King getting elected by the US public - or any other state - to enact a policy.

That's true!

 

[SamurAchzar]

Does that change what they are responsible for?

What exactly are they responsible for? In other words, you were the US AG, what would you accuse them with?

 

[Blackjack200]

What exactly are they responsible for? In other words, you were the US AG, what would you accuse them with?

Clinton and Bush may, like Assange, not be guilty of violating any laws, I cannot answer that question. (I suspect that if the judicial creativity used against some in this country was turned about, they could actually be convicted of quite a bit.)

What I can say is that both men are, in my view, responsible for far more suffering and death than Assange or Manning could possibly cause even if they wanted to.

 

[Gyhrg71]

From here



Nice, so now Assange is playing god. Of course, no one thinks these Arab officials are going to have "fair trials" - that is not a condition which often occurs in the Arab world - they will probably be facing death.

This is an interesting development as it means Assange is taking an active stance against US and its interests among the Arab world (and the interests of Arab regimes themselves). So far he could claim neutrality, but that's no longer the case.

If they aren't given fair trials or are executed (I doubt that, these people probably won't be in any trouble) its not the fault of Assanage and I'm sure the citizens of their country they are supposed to be representing would like to know they are working for the CIA.

Wouldn't you like to know if one of your elected officials had ties to a foreign intelligence service?

 

[SamurAchzar]

Unless I didn't understand you, Why would the US AG be involved? Its the laws of their own countries they would have most likely violated, and even if they didn't I'm sure the citizens of their country they are supposed to be representing would like to know they are working for the CIA.

It was in response to the US presidents being criminals.

Wouldn't you like to know if one of your elected officials had ties to a foreign intelligence service?

It's not always that simple, especially not in Arab countries which have zero leadership transparency. A large part of these regimes are supported/encouraged by the US, which helps the regime keep the locals under check. The regime wouldn't like the people to know the real extent of involvement of the US, it's much easier to speak of US as the the devil while secretly receiving aid (military, intelligence, political).

Not me, not you and certainly not Assange can say whether this is justified or not. They operate in a different manner to us and we should respect it, not force democracy (and transparency) down their throat like we tried in Iraq.

This will serve no one but the Muslim extremists.

 

[Red Dawn]

People got the chair for much less than what this guy and Pfc. Manning are responsible for.

Not that I condone what he's done because I don't but he isn't an American Citizen, what crime did he commit?

 

[SamurAchzar]

Not that I condone what he's done because I don't but he isn't an American Citizen, what crime did he commit?

He certainly didn't commit any crime in US jurisdiction, but then again I never proposed to bring him to trial :biggrin:

 

[Red Dawn]

He certainly didn't commit any crime in US jurisdiction, but then again I never proposed to bring him to trial :biggrin:

No but you did say

People got the chair for much less than what this guy and Pfc. Manning are responsible for.

 

[SamurAchzar]

No but you did say

That wasn't exactly legal speak. "Assassin squads have been sent after people for much less that what this guy and Pfc. Manning are responsible for" would be the wording. My apologies.

 

[Red Dawn]

That wasn't exactly legal speak. "Assassin squads have been sent after people for much less that what this guy and Pfc. Manning are responsible for" would be the wording. My apologies.

Hell we had assasins go after Nuns for less.

 

[Blackjack200]

It was in response to the US presidents being criminals.

He certainly didn't commit any crime in US jurisdiction, but then again I never proposed to bring him to trial :biggrin:

Funny how you can make the distinction in one case but not the other. I never said Clinton and Bush were "criminals". I said they were responsible.

 

[sandorski]

He certainly didn't commit any crime in US jurisdiction, but then again I never proposed to bring him to trial :biggrin:

...and you accuse Assange of playing God? :|