Wife beaten and raped while her husband hides and does nothing

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It's your fucking wife! It doesn't matter if you're scared, you get up and save her or die trying. I'm shocked that anyone would think differently.

I'm not shocked actually. This is the mentality people have now, people like classy and OWS people don't want to do anything about the negatives in their life, they want someone else to do it. It's to much work, and to dangerous. Blah blah blah.

I'd imagine Classy would be the kind of guy to push someone over so he could get away.

EDIT: The reason I have the stance I do about this, is I know women who have been raped, my mom being one of them. Rape can be worse than death to some. My mom never got over it. It's been 32 years and she still lives in fear of strangers, and live in fear knowing the guy that did it is out of prison now. If i was old enough at the time I would have done whatever I could have to stop it, but being 2 years old leaves you powerless.
 
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cubby1223

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Some of us have been in life or death situations and know how we react.
Face it. you are a coward and that's that. Others of us here have some moral convictions and won't sit idly by and let our wives, girl friends, children, mothers, whoever we care about, be beaten and raped.
The pathetic justification of you'll get killed and she'll get raped anyways so why bother is sickening.
If you do nothing, like the husband in the story, your wife will hate you. You will hate yourself, and so will everyone else.
If you fight back, they may kill you, they may realize it isn't worth the hassle or risk and just leave. Killing someone tends to cause the local officials, even in shit holes, to actually do something about it.

BTW, if by normal you mean whipped, snivelling cowards, there are some here with you.

If that's what makes you feel BIG, who here is to complain? No one knows how they will react until they are in that situation.

Everyone knows what should be done, no one knows what will be done.

I could sit here and be the keyboard hero like everyone else, or I could be honest. You don't know how you will handle the situation until you are in the situation. There is training people can do to help prepare, but you still do not know how you will react in the moment.
 
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zinfamous

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Not just talk, buddy. After my family's house was robbed, I burned down the house of the neighbor who did it. There was nothing left after I was done. And I was only 15 at the time.

[schneiderguy's sarcastic hot woman .gif goes here]
 

classy

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I'm not shocked actually. This is the mentality people have now, people like classy and OWS people don't want to do anything about the negatives in their life, they want someone else to do it. It's to much work, and to dangerous. Blah blah blah.

I'd imagine Classy would be the kind of guy to push someone over so he could get away.

EDIT: The reason I have the stance I do about this, is I know women who have been raped, my mom being one of them. Rape can be worse than death to some. My mom never got over it. It's been 32 years and she still lives in fear of strangers, and live in fear knowing the guy that did it is out of prison now. If i was old enough at the time I would have done whatever I could have to stop it, but being 2 years old leaves you powerless.

Man you are so full of bs. You can have that mentality here, but this was in fucking China. I don't doubt for one minute they would have beaten him to death. I guess with almost certain death, he decided to stay alive and live with the shame. Its easy to talk a bunch Rambo shit when you can afford to pay $60 a month for cable hanging out on the internet. But all you guys talking crap here I bet I couldn't get you to walk through North Philly at dark, let alone fight to the death to save anyone. I have said repeatedly, I can't say one way or another if his decision was right or wrong. But given the odds she probably gets raped anyway, I don't claim to say fully he should have fought back.

This man was in a heck of a spot here. Reality is, sometimes a dead hero, is just dead. While the shame and guilt may never go away. At least alive he may be able to get past this. There are a lot of variables at play here. This ain't some damn movie script.
 

Dari

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Man you are so full of bs. You can have that mentality here, but this was in fucking China. I don't doubt for one minute they would have beaten him to death. I guess with almost certain death, he decided to stay alive and live with the shame. Its easy to talk a bunch Rambo shit when you can afford to pay $60 a month for cable hanging out on the internet. But all you guys talking crap here I bet I couldn't get you to walk through North Philly at dark, let alone fight to the death to save anyone. I have said repeatedly, I can't say one way or another if his decision was right or wrong. But given the odds she probably gets raped anyway, I don't claim to say fully he should have fought back.

This man was in a heck of a spot here. Reality is, sometimes a dead hero, is just dead. While the shame and guilt may never go away. At least alive he may be able to get past this. There are a lot of variables at play here. This ain't some damn movie script.

^^^The words of a coward^^^
 

DanTMWTMP

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^^^The words of a coward^^^

The guy may have been a coward, but, honestly, I can't fault him either. I'm going to have to agree with Classy to an extent as well. I would've protected with my life, but under certain circumstances, who knows how any of us will react? Given what the husband is saying in the article, if he has heard of this situation from an observer's point of view, he probably would've reacted the same way a lot of us are in this thread is. However, after he's gone through it and saw that he couldn't do anything, it appears he can't even live with himself. It's just a really crappy situation for him. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. For him, just wanting to live triumphed over everything; and that's a very strong instinct that's difficult for any given person to overcome.

I wonder how this story broke out in the first place? I'm wondering why the husband had put himself in such a public spotlight, instead of declining to be interviewed? Did he break out this story just so he can give himself a public hazing?
 
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Ricemarine

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I think this comment in the article sums up my feelings of this situation pretty well

If you’ve been to Guangdong, you’d know that this really can’t be blamed on that husband.

In Guangdong, the police are basically don’t do anything. If you called the police at the time, the police simply would not come over immediately, basically it would take over an hour, waiting for the gangster/thug to flee before coming over. The police are even more afraid of drying than the ordinary common people there, and have completely forgotten the duties and responsibilities of being the police.

If that husband had dared to fight back, its very likely he would’ve been beaten to death right then and there. I think no matter whether it is in China or abroad, no matter how much a man loves his wife, the number of men who are willing to sacrifice their lives to protect their wives should be very very few.

What’s is more, the gangster/thug who beats him to death will very likely face no consequences whatsoever, for the same reasons as above, because the local police simply do nothing, not even when a criminal commits assault or murder right before their eyes.

The husband is a coward, but is also someone to be pitied, so why aren’t there anyone who blame this terrible state of affairs [that results in this helplessness]? If the same thing were to happen abroad, the people definitely would not excessively blame the husband. Who they would condemn more would be the police not doing their job. If this so-called Public Order Joint-Defense Force member had been stopped and restrained by the police back when he first started trouble, he definitely wouldn’t have been so cocky and arrogant all the way to today. What more, I’m certain that someone reported him to the police before in the past, but the police ignored it, thus resulting in him becoming bolder and bolder when it comes to committing crime, more daring to commit crime.
 

cubby1223

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I'm not shocked actually. This is the mentality people have now, people like classy and OWS people don't want to do anything about the negatives in their life, they want someone else to do it. It's to much work, and to dangerous. Blah blah blah.

Do you farm your own food? No, you have other people do the work for you.

Do you sew your own clothes? No, you have other people do the work for you.

Do you mine your own coal for heat? No, you have other people do the work for you.

It's called living within an advanced society.


Your house is burning down (possibly from arson from another ATOT poster) will you (A) turn on your garden hose, or (B) call the fire department? I hope you don't select the option that makes you beg other people to take care of the negatives in your life for you. Oh, and I hope you don't forget to thank all the people who did the work for you bringing water to your house so you have the luxury of plumbing to take care of your house burning down.
 
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classy

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Your house is burning down (possibly from arson from another ATOT poster) will you (A) turn on your garden hose, or (B) call the fire department? I hope you don't select the option that forces someone else to take care of the negatives in your life.


lol
 

skace

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Seriously, you guys couldn't realize Dari was trolling you from the first post?
 

CFP

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here in america we just blast fools all damn day

i got more guns than sperm stashed in my house and even my rectum

etc etc.

poor woman.

but my dick is huge
 

bfdd

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wow way to many people in this thread are afraid of dying. wtf is up with that? no i'd rather die and have my death be meaningless to everyone else, than to live with myself for doing nothing. I've set my own guidelines for my life, how I want to live, if I don't live the life I want, what kind of life am I living? death isn't the worst thing, it's just a different thing.
 

Dari

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Do you farm your own food? No, you have other people do the work for you.

Do you sew your own clothes? No, you have other people do the work for you.

Do you mine your own coal for heat? No, you have other people do the work for you.

It's called living within an advanced society.


Your house is burning down (possibly from arson from another ATOT poster) will you (A) turn on your garden hose, or (B) call the fire department? I hope you don't select the option that makes you beg other people to take care of the negatives in your life for you. Oh, and I hope you don't forget to thank all the people who did the work for you bringing water to your house so you have the luxury of plumbing to take care of your house burning down.

So if you're wife is being beaten and raped, you will run into the closet, call 911 and stay there, right? Coward.
 

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it would have been more permissible for him to choose to hide and live, if he intended to live because he would have futilely died trying anything at that moment to later follow through with gruesome revenge
 
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warr666

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I would and just did. Police were useless so I had to do something because the pain of not getting revenge was simply too great. Besides, I think I did them a favor because my other idea was to setup the robber with a girl I knew that had AIDS.

LOLOLOL!! you're cracking me up... and full of shit.

about this one, i can't be sure he's trollin here. i've seen some crazy crazy shit
 

iGas

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It is much easier criticized some one in a life and death situation in your basement armchair.

I'm surprise that they have the gut voiced the incident after the ordeal, because the perp is a Chinese Public Order Joint-Defense Force member and is a friend of the Chinese police force.
 

HamburgerBoy

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In addition to variables in police quality and the ability to defend oneself, you guys also assume that the sham atheistic marriages of China are valued as highly as a good Church-backed one.
 

OverVolt

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I'm making a quick pizza so don't have much time.

The forum is suffering from mass stupidity (like always), but I personally could never sit there and let that happen I'd rather die trying to protect her. There had to be a knife, or something, and since he was hidden he had the element of surprise, so he could have done something his assessment that he would have died is false.

If the other person had a knife then you outrange him with a chair or something and beat their face in.

Anyway the man in China probably acted that way because of their society, the way dissidents are treated, the way you keep your head down when **** hits the fan or suffer the consequences. I'm guessing he was an older man and after 40 years of keeping his head down he couldn't stand up and fight. Not necessarily 100% his fault, he still had the urge to fight but had been suppressing it all his life more than likely.
 

Brigandier

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The man is to be pitied, not scorned. I would like to be Batman, but I cannot honestly say I would have done differently in his situation.

Thank god people are allowed weapons in America and could make a go of it. Oh, and all Chinese people know Kung Fu, imagine fighting three armed ninjas, unarmed, it won't end well.
 

actuarial

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For me it depends on whether or not he had children and what their age is.

My wife and I talked about this when my daughter was born. Our #1 priority is always the kids' safety, and that one of us survives. I would still call police though.

With that said, I have no idea how I'd actually act in that situation, and would never blame any VICTIM in a situation like this.
 

911paramedic

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Its sad, but if the guy couldn't fight he probably would have been killed. It would be him bringing a knife to a gun fight.

There really are some sick people in this world though, that's all I get from this story.
 
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