WIC program in jeopardy after shutdown

Texashiker

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Food riots are getting closer,

http://news.yahoo.com/shutdown-puts-wic-food-program-for-vulnerable-mothers-at-risk-144731187.html

Nearly 9 million low-income mothers and children receive benefits under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children. Congress’ inability to pass a funding bill forced the USDA, which oversees the $7 billion program, to shutter support for WIC’s clinical services, food and administrative costs.

Not that I want anyone to go hungry, but hunger is a driving force to get people off their butts. I wonder how many parents who have children drawing WIC voted in the last election? Maybe this shutdown will piss enough of those parents off so they vote in the next election.

When 9 million people go hungry, something will have to give.
 
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ultimatebob

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The people who need the government food benefits are the same people who need the Obamacare insurance discounts, though.

It's pretty obvious that the Republicans weren't going to get any votes from these people anyway.
 

nehalem256

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Good.

WIC is by intent a program designed to give support to people who don't deserve any.

If you can't feed yourself maybe you shouldn't be having children?
 

fskimospy

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The people who need the government food benefits are the same people who need the Obamacare insurance discounts, though.

It's pretty obvious that the Republicans weren't going to get any votes from these people anyway.

You would be surprised, actually.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...cked-by-republicans-with-voters-on-rolls.html

Some of the areas with the highest proportion of food stamp recipients are extremely conservative. What will be interesting is if they change their tune when confronted with the consequences of their ideology.
 

dank69

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Good.

WIC is by intent a program designed to give support to people who don't deserve any.

If you can't feed yourself maybe you shouldn't be having children?
Right. Punish the children for the sins of the parent. Every God fearing Jew knows this.
 

Sonikku

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If you're a baby and you want to survive, don't have a mother that is irresponsible and lacks good income. It's really that simple.
 

Texashiker

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As much as I believe in people being held accountable for their actions, the children should not have to suffer because the parents are poor.

Also, sometimes people fall on hard times. If the program can help a family not go hungry, that is a good thing.
 

dank69

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As much as I believe in people being held accountable for their actions, the children should not have to suffer because the parents are poor.

Also, sometimes people fall on hard times. If the program can help a family not go hungry, that is a good thing.
No it isn't. It just rewards people for being lazy.
 

AkumaX

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and should be force to abort them.:\

Maybe people should get their tubes tied (vasectomy and such), and when people are ready to have children, they have to prove to the govt that they can bear moral/ethical/physical/mental/financial responsibility. Then the to-be parents can have reverse-vasectomies done. Problem solved!
 

thraashman

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Remember people, when the President stopped White House tours because of the sequester it was monstrous. When millions of people go hungry because Republicans shut down the government, they're just lazy.
 

Texashiker

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No it isn't. It just rewards people for being lazy.

Withholding benefits also punishes people for being unlucky.


Remember people, when the President stopped White House tours because of the sequester it was monstrous. When millions of people go hungry because Republicans shut down the government, they're just lazy.

Place the blame where it belongs, and that is on both parties.
 

nehalem256

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Remember people, when the President stopped White House tours because of the sequester it was monstrous. When millions of people go hungry because Republicans shut down the government, they're just lazy.

Actually they are going hungry because millions of women choose to have children they couldn't feed.

Then they want to extort money from others to pay for their choices.

I believe this kind of logic was called terrorism in the shutdown thread.
 

nehalem256

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As much as I believe in people being held accountable for their actions, the children should not have to suffer because the parents are poor.

Also, sometimes people fall on hard times. If the program can help a family not go hungry, that is a good thing.

By the very design of WIC that does not apply in this case.
 

Texashiker

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So now we have to bail out every schmuck that loses at the craps tables?

Yes, we have to feed every family who lost their job because it was sent to china.

Dont like it? Then the senate needs to stop ratifying free trade agreements.
 
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If you're a baby and you want to survive, don't have a mother that is irresponsible and lacks good income. It's really that simple.

I'm sick of these deadbeat infants refusing to take responsibility. Oh, you're hungry? Get a job, baby.
 

nehalem256

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Yes, we have to feed every family who lost their job because it was sent to china.

Dont like it? Then the senate needs to stop ratifying free trade agreements.

WIC is based on income.

How many people do you think find out they are pregnant and then 2 weeks later their middle-class job is shipped to China?

The vast majority of women on WIC choose to have a child they could never afford.
 

Texashiker

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How many people do you think find out they are pregnant and then 2 weeks later their middle-class job is shipped to China?

The vast majority of women on WIC choose to have a child they could never afford.

WIC is for children up to 5 years old.
 

dank69

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Yes, we have to feed every family who lost their job because it was sent to china.

Dont like it? Then the senate needs to stop ratifying free trade agreements.
Losing your job to China has nothing to do with luck. Only lazy people who don't train for other jobs when their current job becomes outsourceable have that problem. The people that really need help are the ones who have a really bad run at the craps tables, according to you anyway.
 

Texashiker

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Losing your job to China has nothing to do with luck. Only lazy people who don't train for other jobs when their current job becomes outsourceable have that problem. The people that really need help are the ones who have a really bad run at the craps tables, according to you anyway.

The arrogance in your post is overflowing.
 

EagleKeeper

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Good.

WIC is by intent a program designed to give support to people who don't deserve any.

If you can't feed yourself maybe you shouldn't be having children?

Lets spell this out for you clearly


Women
Infants
Children

How are you justifying the blame on the Infants and Children that the WIC is intended on supporting.

A woman with no male provider with children (for what ever reason) will need help. WIC is intended for food that meets certain nutritional guidelines to help feed the family properly.

You desire to penalize the children and infants because of a flaw in an adult.
 

nehalem256

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Lets spell this out for you clearly


Women
Infants
Children

How are you justifying the blame on the Infants and Children that the WIC is intended on supporting.

A woman with no male provider with children (for what ever reason) will need help. WIC is intended for food that meets certain nutritional guidelines to help feed the family properly.

WIC is intended to support the poor life choices of women. It is nothing short of extortion. A tactic I believe was called terrorism in the government shutdown thread.

Why should I care about families I am definitionaly excluded from?

You desire to penalize the children and infants because of a flaw in an adult.

I am not the one CHOOSING to have a child I cannot support. The woman choosing to have a child without a male provider is the one desiring to penalize her own children.