Why you shouldn't clean your hands after using the bathroom in a public restroom.

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AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
i use my hands to turn on the faucet but i use the paper towel i dry my hands with to turn off the faucet and open the bathroom door so my hands remain clean.
Been doing exactly this for , oh I don't know.... EVER!!! :confused:
If I see someone leaving the restroom without washing their hands now, I always say "ewww" just loud enough to be heard. It's just gross to not wash. There are more Hepatitis and E.Coli outbreaks from transfer of human fecal material than there should be. It's something you should have learned as a small child.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: MattCo
Its funny, I use the paper towels to turn off the faucet as mentioned above, then I use my foot to open the bathroom door.

Just think about the particles that get launched into the air when you flush the toilet, do you want that on your hands when you eat or touch your face?

I must be getting OCD.

-MC

Uncovered toilets can spray water/urine/feces up to 20 feet in the air when flushed. Ever since I learned that I flush with the lid down.

I hove you don't keep your toothbrush on the sink next to you tiolet. :Q
 

C'DaleRider

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Handwashing has been shown to be probably the most effecitve way to prevent illness/bacteria/virus transfer, especially the cold virus. Most cold viruses are transferred by touching........touching something another person has sneezed upon (droplets from sneezes have been shown to travel upwards of 20 feet), touching hands with someone who's sneezed into their hands, etc.

Ever wonder why food establishments, hospitals, et al, push handwashing so much? Because IT'S SO EFFECTIVE at preventing transmission of illness.


The better question is why are colds more prevelant in winter vs. summer?

And no, the answer is NOT "the cold outside depresses your immune system..." garbage spouted around.
 

Thoreau

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Originally posted by: amnesiac

Bonus: You now have OCD.

LMAO. It's not nice to make people burst out in laughter after just taking a drag off a cigarette! My throat now burns like hell, but it's a *good* hell. :D
 

Thoreau

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Originally posted by: Kntx
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Kntx
Cleaning your hands when you use the washroom isn't just to clean whatever pee or poo particles you got on them while you were in there. It's to clean your hands of all the crud you get on them throughout the day. Being in the washroom to take a load off merely offers a convienent time to do so.
Other than nose pickings my hands don't get dirty throughout the day though...


Sure they do. It's not visible dirt I'm talking about, it's germ and bacteria from other people / animals. You touch all sorts of stuff during the day that loads of other people have touched. Doorknobs, phones, other people's hands, binders, paper, coffee cups, keyboards, desks etc. etc.

Washing your hands on a regular basis is the best way to prevent illness.

It's also one of the best ways to help your immune system atrophe (sp?).
 

Mathcop

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Originally posted by: Kntx
Washing your hands on a regular basis is the best way to prevent illness.

It's also the best way to get Mrs. Skoorb to let you touch her. BTW, she's sleeping alone tonight.

;)
 

StageLeft

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Big difference between washing your hands in a restaurant, or in general, and washing after the bathroom. I would love to see some numbers that prove that _post bathroom washing_ is significantly beneficial to you.
 
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
What thread is this a parody of?

If it's not, then you are a sad, sad man.
It's not a pardody! And in regards to your second statement, fair enough.

ah... my weekly injection of skoorb. :beer: :D
 

Aftermath

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I've got a few too many things to worry about than touching a sink or door knob in my day to day life.

Ever seen those 20/20 specials about stuff going on in the kitchens of resteraunts?
Some chef drops your burger on the floor, picks it up with his ungloved hands, wipes some crud off (missing the bandaid), puts it on your bun, picks his nose, wipes it on his sleeve, wraps your burger, then sends it out for you to eat, you devour. Have you ever actually watched people make your food at a fast food joint? Think about the greasy faced zit popping teenagers that handle your food before you eat it.

Or considering how much junk (bugs, mice, various vermin) gets ground up in the machines that harvest and process grain to make bread.

The last thing I think about while I'm leaving the bathroom is "EW! I can't touch the door! Someone who touched their peepee may have touched this! I better just wait here until someone else comes in and lets me out."
 

SP33Demon

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Here's a good link to washing hands.

Link to study done in 1997 by U of AZ regarding bacteria in restrooms.

I cut and pasted the second link since only the cached link on google is working (do a search for "Washing hands bacteria restrooms" on google and it will be one of the first ones):
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By Amanda Riddle
Arizona Daily Wildcat
June 11, 1997

Bathroom research reveals surprising data

Your mom always told you to wash your hands after going potty, but you never listened to her, right?

Now two University of Arizona researchers have found a reason for you to heed to your mother's advice: public restrooms are breeding places for disease-causing bacteria.

"Every time you go to the bathroom you're playing Russian Roulette," said Chuck Gerba, a professor of soil and water science. Gerba and his assistant, microbiology and immunology graduate student Denise Kennedy, are the first people to study public restro oms so thoroughly.

And what they found might surprise you.

While men's restrooms smell worse and contain more litter than women's restrooms, women's restrooms actually contain more fecal bacteria than men's. Fecal bacteria, found in the intestinal tract, are an indicator of the potential presence of other disease -causing organisms that shed from the intestinal tract.

Kennedy discovered a two-to-one ratio between the bacteria in women's and men's bathrooms, which means there are more bacteria in women's bathrooms to cause sickness.

"I didn't expect women's restrooms to be so much higher in bacteria than men's," Kennedy said.

She speculated that women's toilets contain more bacteria because there is a higher frequency of use.

"Women have to sit down no matter what," she said.

She also believes that women wash their hands more than men, which accounts for more bacteria in the sink area.


"When you wash your hands, bacteria falls into the sink and it lasts longer than in other areas because the sink is moist," said Kennedy, who sneaked into hundreds of public restrooms around Tucson to collect data for the project.

The study included bathrooms in shopping malls, bus stations, airports, fast food restaurants, hospitals and even the UA.

Kennedy said she could not publicly identify the bathrooms where she collected data because she did not ask permission to collect samples. She said many of the proprietors would not appreciate what she found.

She did discover that the safest place to use a public restroom is at a hospital, where bathrooms contained the least amount of bacteria. Avoid using the bathroom in bus stations, which contained the most bacteria, she said.

Kennedy began the project in September 1995, after she started graduate school.

"The subject appeals to everyone," she said. "Everyone can relate and understand it."

For almost two years Kennedy has worked with Gerba. Her leg work consisted of wiping cotton swabs on the top of toilet seats, the bottom of toilet seats, on the floor in front of toilets, in sink basins and on sink taps. Then she brought her samples to th e lab to be analyzed.

In addition to the fecal bacteria, Kennedy and Gerba also found salmonella, a bacteria that can cause food poisoning, diarrhea and typhoid fever, in the sink area of one in every 10 restrooms. She said the sink area was a hot spot for the bacteria because it is wet - giving the bacteria a better chance to survive and grow.

Sinks are also more likely than toilet seats to harbor E-coli bacteria, Kennedy discovered. E-coli lives in the intestine and some strains are toxic, although Kennedy did not distinguish between the strains she found.

Gerba said the study comes at a time when microorganisms, which include bacteria, are causing more deaths in the United States than ever before.

"Microorganisms have increased from the fifth leading cause of death to the third, behind heart attacks and cancer," he said.

Gerba attributed the rise to an increasing contamination of our food supply from an increase in food production and an increase in imported food, and an increase in adults over the age of 65.

With the rise in deaths from disease-causing bacteria, there is also more public awareness and concern.

Eighty percent of adults in the United States now know about salmonella, he said.

Although Gerba and Kennedy determined there is some risk of catching a disease from the bacteria present in restrooms, they do not yet know how high that risk is.

"In the future we are going to quantitate it," Gerba said.

Determining the risk will hopefully find answers to the questions raised by his research, such as: Is it worth taking more precautions, like using more disinfectant or installing touchless toilets, to protect Americans from these diseases?

But both Gerba and Kennedy use public restrooms themselves, and they do not want to cause a public scare with their research.

"This adds to the fear," Kennedy said. "But we've lived with these things forever."

She said the best advice for anyone who uses public restrooms is to avoid busy bathrooms that appear dirty or have standing water.

Kennedy and Gerba found bathrooms with one stall, or more than three, contained the most bacteria, possibly because they had the most traffic.

Kennedy also gave advise for bathroom procedures.

"Wash your hands and try not to touch the inside of the sink basin," she said.

She also advised people to use a paper towel when turning off faucets and opening the bathroom door.

Although his unglamorous research has produced some startling results, Gerba said he doubts more microbiologists will grab cotton swabs and head into the bathroom.

"We know more about the microcosm of the moon than we do of our own house," he said. "It's not a type of area you get a federal grant on."
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This verifies that there is more fecal bacteria in women's restrooms than men's! YES IT'S TRUE TELL YOUR G/F OR WIFE TO WIPE BETTER NEXT TIME!!!
 

DrPizza

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edit: Completely agree with Skoorb. Mrs. Skoorb, read the post above... the women's rooms are full of fecal bacteria in the sink areas! Skoorb, are you sure you want Mrs. Skoorb touching YOU?

I was just about to search for stuff like the above post...
There have been several other studies that show you actually pick up MORE bacteria at the sink than you pick up while at the toilet. Unless, you do what several above have suggested: turn off the water with the paper towels.

While we're at it, 95% of people don't wash their hands properly anyway. Google it to figure out how bad you suck at washing your own hands.

Me: If there are blowdriers in a public restroom, I don't wash my hands unless I get sh!t on them... and that doesn't happen more than, ohhhhh, 3 or 4 times a week (George Carlin) BTW, blowdriers claim that they're more hygienic than paper towels = false. Because of the warmth, they're a great breeding ground for bacteria, especially when people hit the on button, and they're blowing bacteria around.

Honestly, if anything, you should wash your hands BEFORE you go to the bathroom... don't want to spread all those germs you've picked up all day to your genitals that have been fairly well protected from the environment by at least 2 layers of clothing.
 

PanzerIV

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Good post. I wash my hands like crazy throughout the day and I rarely get colds. I found how others maneuver around the bathroom without touching anything quite amusing because I'm the same way. Some are much more disgusting than others.