Why would someone buy an automatic sports car?

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Because in a car like a 'Vette putting out as much power as it can, auto trannies can handle more power and the car puts out enough power to produce sickening amounts of thrust at any RPM.

Your about a dumbass arent you

Well, considering I know the difference between "your" and "your're" and can properly spell "aren't" I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers.

I understand the value of a manual transmission. Hell I drive one. But it's in a little gutless 4 banger with a pretty minimal powerband. When you have as much power on tap as an LS2 provides, there really isn't the peaky torque curve that a 4 cylinder or a touchy boosted engine has.

In a car like an S2000 an automatic would kill it. But, in a Vette or a Ford Lightning an automatic will hold their own quite well.

Oh lord....

 

[Liviathan]

Stop and go traffic is what keeps me from going manual. In my late 20's I have gotten dull in that department.

 

[StageLeft]

Because they're lame poseurs. Those who really care about driving realize that "I drive in traffic" is no excuse.

And it's infrequently got anything to do with benefits of an auto; afterall I can think of only one exotic off the top of my head that uses a true automatic transmission. Torque convertors are still crap.

 

[Jzero]

Because if I'm spending $50k+ on a car, it should be able to shift on its freakin' own! I don't drive on a racetrack, and I only know 2 people that drive Vette's and you know what? THEY don't drive on racetracks either. My friend at work with the Vette has a and old MOPAR beast that he takes to the drag strip. The Vette is just to make his daily commute more enjoyable, and having to shift gears would detract from his enjoyment.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
He commutes in stop and go traffic a lot...but still wants an M3

I've been there and would STILL go for a 5sp (hell 6sp if I had the option [hell actually i did but i had to get a RELIABLE CAR instead of the twin turbo awd i was looking at ]).

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: ajpa123
1) Wife needs to drive it sometimes (assuming wife hates manual trannies)

That's a sexist comment. Normally I'm down with sexist comments, too, wtf? Anyhow, my woman was the one that taught me how to drive stick...

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: Twista
Becasue they are dumb! I dont understand when i see people driving around automatic mustangs or V6 mustangs! Im going to make a thread similar to this lol. Instead of taking over your thread,

Narrow Minded you are.
It's America, it's all about choice.
You think they are dumb, I think they are Americans !
I think your attitude about the topic is outta whack bro !

I think they are dumb americans!

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

Unless you're talking about one of the more high tech lambo or M3 trannies or something... there's no way. Unless someone misshifts or they're just learning. I used to think the same thing... until I started to drive stick and realized I was WRONG.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
#1: Traffic
#2: They don't know how to drive stick-shift.
#3: They don't like stick-shift.
#4: They have to be on the phone constantly, thus need a free hand.
#5: Other family members need to drive it.
#6: Dealer didn't have a manual, and he needed a car quick.
#7: They are disabled.
#8: They just want power, nothing more.
#9: It has better resale value.
#10: To annoy people who have nothing better to do than bitch about others' cars (that's you.)

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

oh yea, and aga booga posted this who is like 16, kinda reminds me of my friend thought, all obsessed with mustangs, anyway its nothing to get stressed out about.

I heard the same thing before. That for drag racing an automatic is better.

In most cars this is untrue. Only in high torque monsters like the corvette and other high-displacement domestics.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Cawchy87
i wouldn't get a manual for the simple reason that i have a cell phone and may have to use a map once in a while. It is inconveniant for me if i had to keep one hand off the wheel shifting. And why would you want a manual if your not racing? It doesn't make sence to me.

Yeah, it would be inconvenient to have to get your mind back on the road to shift for a split second... it might interfere with your killing spree.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
yeah, true it shifts faster, but when you get the gear ratios of a 6 speed vette against an auto 4 speed vette, even if the guy shifts slowly, the gear ratios should more than make up for the difference, not to mention an auto won't redline itself

it isn't a matter of "faster" shifting but rather more accurate shifting, or more precise shifting....a well tuned auto tranny will always shift the "same" whereas even with the best manual driver there is a small margin of error..

Typically auto trannys are preferred for drag cars however one must remember that the auto trannys in those cars are nothing like your fathers buick.

Also the new SMG setup in the BMW is nothing like your run of the mill auto, it is more like that which F1 drivers use with flippers on the wheel...while I love standard cars I would prefer this.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

oh yea, and aga booga posted this who is like 16, kinda reminds me of my friend thought, all obsessed with mustangs, anyway its nothing to get stressed out about.

I heard the same thing before. That for drag racing an automatic is better.

yeah, true it shifts faster, but when you get the gear ratios of a 6 speed vette against an auto 4 speed vette, even if the guy shifts slowly, the gear ratios should more than make up for the difference, not to mention an auto won't redline itself

Really? I've redlined my automatic plenty of times. And when have you gone up past 4 gears in a 1/4 mile?

Wow, are you joking? It's not about going past the gears... that just doesn't make any sense. It's the fact that having less gears means that they are looser, meaning that less torque is being put to the ground. That means that a 150hp car with tight gears can blow the doors of a 160hp car with looser ratios.

Torque coming out of the engine x the gear ratio = power put to the ground.

And you can always shift a manual faster than a conventional auto.

 

[ajpa123]

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: ajpa123
1) Wife needs to drive it sometimes (assuming wife hates manual trannies)

That's a sexist comment. Normally I'm down with sexist comments, too, wtf? Anyhow, my woman was the one that taught me how to drive stick...

How is that a sexist comment. Please All ATOT'ers reply, i need to know now before i head out.. lol
Educate me so I don't do it again. I'm single, maybe you married people think differently.

I thought i was saying that a husband would buy an automatic version of a certain car in case his wife , who hates manual transmissions ever had to drive it. I thought i was saying that the husband was compromising.. being a nice guy so that if ever his wife's car was in the shop, or hubby had too much to drink, she could drive it without complaints.

Please rephrase my sentence to make that work !
I still think it's right.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

#4: They have to be on the phone constantly, thus need a free hand.

#8: They just want power, nothing more.

4: They don't care about your safety and they are complete a-holes.

8: If they wanted POWER, then they would want a manual, it puts more torque to the ground generally.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: jhu

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

Then he'd be better off with a stick, better control of what gear you are in for the extra torque required to go up hills, and for engine braking for going down.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: bozack

Also the new SMG setup in the BMW is nothing like your run of the mill auto, it is more like that which F1 drivers use with flippers on the wheel...while I love standard cars I would prefer this.

I tried those and I didn't like it... not because I'm just used to conventional, but also because... how the hell can you switch gears when you're in a turn?

Also... ever see someone try to LAUNCH with one of those trannies? Even the professionals had a hell of a time getting a decent time out of it as a benchmark for the magazine (Auto Week or Motor Trend, one of those mags).

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: ajpa123
1) Wife needs to drive it sometimes (assuming wife hates manual trannies)

That's a sexist comment. Normally I'm down with sexist comments, too, wtf? Anyhow, my woman was the one that taught me how to drive stick...

How is that a sexist comment. Please All ATOT'ers reply, i need to know now before i head out.. lol
Educate me so I don't do it again. I'm single, maybe you married people think differently.

I thought i was saying that a husband would buy an automatic version of a certain car in case his wife , who hates manual transmissions ever had to drive it. I thought i was saying that the husband was compromising.. being a nice guy so that if ever his wife's car was in the shop, or hubby had too much to drink, she could drive it without complaints.

Please rephrase my sentence to make that work !
I still think it's right.

I don't give a crap and I probably shouldn't have even used the word sexist... but what makes you think that just because she's a woman she can't drive stick? I think out of the girls I know, a higher percentage of them drive stick than guys (or at least equal). Or maybe its the kind of girls I hang out with 😀.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Because in a car like a 'Vette putting out as much power as it can, auto trannies can handle more power and the car puts out enough power to produce sickening amounts of thrust at any RPM.

Your about a dumbass arent you

Well, considering I know the difference between "your" and "your're" and can properly spell "aren't" I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers.

I understand the value of a manual transmission. Hell I drive one. But it's in a little gutless 4 banger with a pretty minimal powerband. When you have as much power on tap as an LS2 provides, there really isn't the peaky torque curve that a 4 cylinder or a touchy boosted engine has.

In a car like an S2000 an automatic would kill it. But, in a Vette or a Ford Lightning an automatic will hold their own quite well.

A manual will handle the pwoer JUST as well as an auto, perhaps moreso. Maybe my online, non professional grammer isnt up to snuff for you. But your blanat misunderstanding of transmissions isnt up to snuff for me.

On the IS300's Auto's can hold more power than the 5 Speed counterpart.

 

[3chordcharlie]

The odd time I have to drive an automatic I find detracts considerably from any 'enjoyment' I might get from driving it.

That and I usually just about put my left foot through the floor when I sit down.

I can understand why someone would want an automatic transmission, but rather than make your vette drive like a Lincoln, you might as well just buy a Lincoln 😉

 

[ajpa123]

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: ajpa123
1) Wife needs to drive it sometimes (assuming wife hates manual trannies)

That's a sexist comment. Normally I'm down with sexist comments, too, wtf? Anyhow, my woman was the one that taught me how to drive stick...

How is that a sexist comment. Please All ATOT'ers reply, i need to know now before i head out.. lol
Educate me so I don't do it again. I'm single, maybe you married people think differently.

I thought i was saying that a husband would buy an automatic version of a certain car in case his wife , who hates manual transmissions ever had to drive it. I thought i was saying that the husband was compromising.. being a nice guy so that if ever his wife's car was in the shop, or hubby had too much to drink, she could drive it without complaints.

Please rephrase my sentence to make that work !
I still think it's right.

I don't give a crap and I probably shouldn't have even used the word sexist... but what makes you think that just because she's a woman she can't drive stick? I think out of the girls I know, a higher percentage of them drive stick than guys (or at least equal). Or maybe its the kind of girls I hang out with 😀.

Hey Homestarmy,
Most wives I know have family sedans/minivans/station wagons/SUV's, meaning that they have an automatic transmission. You have to have life experience to understand a post in a thread bro.. or simple common sense. Read my sentence, I explicitly said 'assuming wife hates manual trannies.

You seem to have issues.
You need to be less beligerent.
You need to get a motherfu(king clue my freind.
And about those girls you hang out with, don't get me started. And i don't really care about what percentage of them drive sticks.

 

[vi edit]

On the IS300's Auto's can hold more power than the 5 Speed counterpart.

That's pretty much what I was getting at. In cars of the same model/engine, many times the automatic version can typically take more power without needing to beef up the transmission than it's manual counterpart. I should have clarified better. I wasn't saying that a manual in general can't take power as well, but in the same car an automatic can take to more power easier.

I've seen this reported on many Subaru, GM, and VAG forums.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

On the IS300's Auto's can hold more power than the 5 Speed counterpart.

That's pretty much what I was getting at. In cars of the same model/engine, many times the automatic version can typically take more power without needing to beef up the transmission than it's manual counterpart. I should have clarified better. I wasn't saying that a manual in general can't take power as well, but in the same car an automatic can take to more power easier.

I've seen this reported on many Subaru, GM, and VAG forums.

It's the same with Supras, hence why you see so many high HP Auto Supras around.
I think they're faster in the drag strip too

 

[iamme]

didn't read the thread, but i'm sure someone's said it already......who cares?

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

oh yea, and aga booga posted this who is like 16, kinda reminds me of my friend thought, all obsessed with mustangs, anyway its nothing to get stressed out about.

I heard the same thing before. That for drag racing an automatic is better.

yeah, true it shifts faster, but when you get the gear ratios of a 6 speed vette against an auto 4 speed vette, even if the guy shifts slowly, the gear ratios should more than make up for the difference, not to mention an auto won't redline itself

Really? I've redlined my automatic plenty of times. And when have you gone up past 4 gears in a 1/4 mile?

Who said anything about a quarter mile? Even at that, are you telling me the first 4 gears of the 6 speed are identical to the 4 gears of the automatic? If not, then what I said still remains true, the manual transmission has the advantage, the 6 speed will probably have shorter gears than the 4 speed

Also, what kind of car have you redlined an automatic in?

Subarus will redline in every gear