Why would someone buy an automatic sports car?

[jhu]

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: jhu

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

Then he'd be better off with a stick, better control of what gear you are in for the extra torque required to go up hills, and for engine braking for going down.

uhm...you can do that with an automatic. just put the car in d3, d2, or d1

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: jhu

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: jhu

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

Then he'd be better off with a stick, better control of what gear you are in for the extra torque required to go up hills, and for engine braking for going down.

uhm...you can do that with an automatic. just put the car in d3, d2, or d1

In any comparable gear, you don't get nearly the same amount of engine braking in an automatic, due to the intrusion of the torque converter. Anyone who's driven both can tell you that even if they don't know why.

Plus, every "regular" automatic I have ever driven has automatic overrides that counter gear selection. Again, drive one and you'll see. Try putting any regular (non hybrid paddle sport shift -- although even these have less instrusive overrides usually) into D1 or L at any speed above 15-20mph -- you won't get first gear. Go try it.

 

[UCDAggies2k4]

Originally posted by: jhu

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: jhu

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

Then he'd be better off with a stick, better control of what gear you are in for the extra torque required to go up hills, and for engine braking for going down.

uhm...you can do that with an automatic. just put the car in d3, d2, or d1

I hope you know the hills in frisco have a bad incline. Makes it easy to roll down backwards. One hill has a 40-degree incline. Yes 40 degree. If manual is the best why don't some ferrari come in manual, like the enzo. The ferrari Enzo doesn't have a regular manual only a paddle sport shift.

 

[Apex]

Does he wear a clip-on tie too? Much more convenient, and just as cheesy. 🙂

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

#4: They have to be on the phone constantly, thus need a free hand.

#8: They just want power, nothing more.

4: They don't care about your safety and they are complete a-holes.

8: If they wanted POWER, then they would want a manual, it puts more torque to the ground generally.

#4: Sorry, most people care more about their business than they care about safety.

#8: Yeah, increase torque about how much? 2%? They don't give a damn.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: Perknose


Plus, every "regular" automatic I have ever driven has automatic overrides that counter gear selection. Again, drive one and you'll see. Try putting any regular (non hybrid paddle sport shift -- although even these have less instrusive overrides usually) into D1 or L at any speed above 15-20mph -- you won't get first gear. Go try it.

in my bro's 94 civic ex auto, i can go into D1 at speeds from 0 to 37mph.....althought the shift the higher the speed makes it much much harsher if you let off the throttle at the same time. D2 is to select only D2, there is no shift from 1 to 2. D3 is like D4 except without 4th gear.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: ajpa123
1) Wife needs to drive it sometimes (assuming wife hates manual trannies)

That's a sexist comment. Normally I'm down with sexist comments, too, wtf? Anyhow, my woman was the one that taught me how to drive stick...

How is that a sexist comment. Please All ATOT'ers reply, i need to know now before i head out.. lol
Educate me so I don't do it again. I'm single, maybe you married people think differently.

I thought i was saying that a husband would buy an automatic version of a certain car in case his wife , who hates manual transmissions ever had to drive it. I thought i was saying that the husband was compromising.. being a nice guy so that if ever his wife's car was in the shop, or hubby had too much to drink, she could drive it without complaints.

Please rephrase my sentence to make that work !
I still think it's right.

I don't give a crap and I probably shouldn't have even used the word sexist... but what makes you think that just because she's a woman she can't drive stick? I think out of the girls I know, a higher percentage of them drive stick than guys (or at least equal). Or maybe its the kind of girls I hang out with 😀.

Hey Homestarmy,
Most wives I know have family sedans/minivans/station wagons/SUV's, meaning that they have an automatic transmission. You have to have life experience to understand a post in a thread bro.. or simple common sense. Read my sentence, I explicitly said 'assuming wife hates manual trannies.

You seem to have issues.
You need to be less beligerent.
You need to get a motherfu(king clue my freind.
And about those girls you hang out with, don't get me started. And i don't really care about what percentage of them drive sticks.

Wow, I'm belligerent? You're downright completely pissed off at this point it seems. I wasn't even being 100% serious with my posts but obviously you were. I guess you are the one that needs to get a clue maybe? Maybe you need to get out more or hit a punching bag so you won't get so pissed off at meaningless posts on the internet?

BTW, you seem to be a dumbass.:shocked:

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

oh yea, and aga booga posted this who is like 16, kinda reminds me of my friend thought, all obsessed with mustangs, anyway its nothing to get stressed out about.

I heard the same thing before. That for drag racing an automatic is better.

yeah, true it shifts faster, but when you get the gear ratios of a 6 speed vette against an auto 4 speed vette, even if the guy shifts slowly, the gear ratios should more than make up for the difference, not to mention an auto won't redline itself

Really? I've redlined my automatic plenty of times. And when have you gone up past 4 gears in a 1/4 mile?

Who said anything about a quarter mile? Even at that, are you telling me the first 4 gears of the 6 speed are identical to the 4 gears of the automatic? If not, then what I said still remains true, the manual transmission has the advantage, the 6 speed will probably have shorter gears than the 4 speed

Also, what kind of car have you redlined an automatic in?

My accord V6 auto, when you floor it I redline first second third, by the time I hit fourth I'm doing 105, I've redlined in top gear as well on the interstate (NOT a good idea) at ~140-145, but I rarely do this as the car is going to have to last me a while (at LEAST through law school) Manuals are nice, but they have their short comings (already been addressed) not everyone wants a car that will be the absolulte fastest to 60mph, most people buy sports cars because they look good and are status symbols. You CAN get a ticket for burning out at every light...

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid

Originally posted by: Perknose


Plus, every "regular" automatic I have ever driven has automatic overrides that counter gear selection. Again, drive one and you'll see. Try putting any regular (non hybrid paddle sport shift -- although even these have less instrusive overrides usually) into D1 or L at any speed above 15-20mph -- you won't get first gear. Go try it.

in my bro's 94 civic ex auto, i can go into D1 at speeds from 0 to 37mph.....althought the shift the higher the speed makes it much much harsher if you let off the throttle at the same time. D2 is to select only D2, there is no shift from 1 to 2. D3 is like D4 except without 4th gear.

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, are you saying you can DOWNSHIFT while going 37mph into first gear by selecting D1? I have trouble believing that.

I'm thinking (I could be wrong) that you mean you can start off in D1 and your Civic will hold first gear until 37 mph. That is different. Generally the algorithims work such that you can start off and hold a car in first gear up to a higher mph, but . . .

Generally, most automatics will not downshift into first gear while on the go above 15-20 mph, even if you select D1. The tranny will first go to second gear, until you slow down below 15-20 mph, then plop down to first.

 

[Leetman]

Maybe they drive an auto because they're not like 90% of the lamers in this thread who drive a manual to be "cool".

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

oh yea, and aga booga posted this who is like 16, kinda reminds me of my friend thought, all obsessed with mustangs, anyway its nothing to get stressed out about.

I heard the same thing before. That for drag racing an automatic is better.

yeah, true it shifts faster, but when you get the gear ratios of a 6 speed vette against an auto 4 speed vette, even if the guy shifts slowly, the gear ratios should more than make up for the difference, not to mention an auto won't redline itself

Really? I've redlined my automatic plenty of times. And when have you gone up past 4 gears in a 1/4 mile?

Who said anything about a quarter mile? Even at that, are you telling me the first 4 gears of the 6 speed are identical to the 4 gears of the automatic? If not, then what I said still remains true, the manual transmission has the advantage, the 6 speed will probably have shorter gears than the 4 speed

Also, what kind of car have you redlined an automatic in?

My accord V6 auto, when you floor it I redline first second third, by the time I hit fourth I'm doing 105, I've redlined in top gear as well on the interstate (NOT a good idea) at ~140-145, but I rarely do this as the car is going to have to last me a while (at LEAST through law school) Manuals are nice, but they have their short comings (already been addressed) not everyone wants a car that will be the absolulte fastest to 60mph, most people buy sports cars because they look good and are status symbols. You CAN get a ticket for burning out at every light...

You sure you want to be abusing your accord like that ?
Honda/Acura Accord, TLs CLs are known for their glass trannies.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Leetman
Maybe they drive an auto because they're not like 90% of the lamers in this thread who drive a manual to be "cool".

Probably more like 2%. Most of us are simply hands-on people; much as we like complete control over our computers, we want complete control over our cars as well. Sticks also tend to get better gas mileage, to be more reliable, and to cost far, far less in the event a repair is needed. Now go be leet somewhere, shoo~

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: jhu

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

Then he'd be better off with a stick, better control of what gear you are in for the extra torque required to go up hills, and for engine braking for going down.

You ever tried parallel parking a manual on a hill? Granted I'm not the best with a manual, but I had to get out and have my dad do it.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: jhu

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Originally posted by: jhu

#11: he lives in a hilly place like san francisco.

Then he'd be better off with a stick, better control of what gear you are in for the extra torque required to go up hills, and for engine braking for going down.

uhm...you can do that with an automatic. just put the car in d3, d2, or d1

In any comparable gear, you don't get nearly the same amount of engine braking in an automatic, due to the intrusion of the torque converter. Anyone who's driven both can tell you that even if they don't know why.

Plus, every "regular" automatic I have ever driven has automatic overrides that counter gear selection. Again, drive one and you'll see. Try putting any regular (non hybrid paddle sport shift -- although even these have less instrusive overrides usually) into D1 or L at any speed above 15-20mph -- you won't get first gear. Go try it.

I have, I can go right up to redline in first (like 40 ish iirc, only did it twice when I first got my car and was stupid) I also shifted into first one time while doing 30 or so, had a hell of a bump as it dropped down and engine compression REALLY picked up. Similarly I have also done "Manual" shifting with my auto, put it in first floor it bump it to second at red line, then third, then fourth, I can feel each shift (and you REALLY feel each shift in my car the transmission is pretty rough for an auto) oh and on steep hills if I put it in first going down its just a crawl, I don't know exactly what point you were trying to make, but I don't need the brake except when coming to a complete stop, and this is coming down from our mountain house in north carrolina.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: DaiShan
I have, I can go right up to redline in first (like 40 ish iirc, only did it twice when I first got my car and was stupid) I also shifted into first one time while doing 30 or so, had a hell of a bump as it dropped down and engine compression REALLY picked up. Similarly I have also done "Manual" shifting with my auto, put it in first floor it bump it to second at red line, then third, then fourth, I can feel each shift (and you REALLY feel each shift in my car the transmission is pretty rough for an auto) oh and on steep hills if I put it in first going down its just a crawl, I don't know exactly what point you were trying to make, but I don't need the brake except when coming to a complete stop, and this is coming down from our mountain house in north carrolina.

What make and year of car?

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: OverVolt
LOL i bet the auto can switch gears in a drag better than most of you can.

oh yea, and aga booga posted this who is like 16, kinda reminds me of my friend thought, all obsessed with mustangs, anyway its nothing to get stressed out about.

I heard the same thing before. That for drag racing an automatic is better.

yeah, true it shifts faster, but when you get the gear ratios of a 6 speed vette against an auto 4 speed vette, even if the guy shifts slowly, the gear ratios should more than make up for the difference, not to mention an auto won't redline itself

Really? I've redlined my automatic plenty of times. And when have you gone up past 4 gears in a 1/4 mile?

Who said anything about a quarter mile? Even at that, are you telling me the first 4 gears of the 6 speed are identical to the 4 gears of the automatic? If not, then what I said still remains true, the manual transmission has the advantage, the 6 speed will probably have shorter gears than the 4 speed

Also, what kind of car have you redlined an automatic in?

My accord V6 auto, when you floor it I redline first second third, by the time I hit fourth I'm doing 105, I've redlined in top gear as well on the interstate (NOT a good idea) at ~140-145, but I rarely do this as the car is going to have to last me a while (at LEAST through law school) Manuals are nice, but they have their short comings (already been addressed) not everyone wants a car that will be the absolulte fastest to 60mph, most people buy sports cars because they look good and are status symbols. You CAN get a ticket for burning out at every light...

You sure you want to be abusing your accord like that ?
Honda/Acura Accord, TLs CLs are known for their glass trannies.

Reading is fundemental, otoh, they are not as fragile as most seem to think, ever since that article about the turbo for the sixth gen v6 people have this idea that they will fall apart if you redline them, well if you neutral drop any auto from redline to make max hp out of a turbo you aren't gonna last very long. But yeah if you had read to line 2 of my post you would have answered your own question.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: DaiShan
I have, I can go right up to redline in first (like 40 ish iirc, only did it twice when I first got my car and was stupid) I also shifted into first one time while doing 30 or so, had a hell of a bump as it dropped down and engine compression REALLY picked up. Similarly I have also done "Manual" shifting with my auto, put it in first floor it bump it to second at red line, then third, then fourth, I can feel each shift (and you REALLY feel each shift in my car the transmission is pretty rough for an auto) oh and on steep hills if I put it in first going down its just a crawl, I don't know exactly what point you were trying to make, but I don't need the brake except when coming to a complete stop, and this is coming down from our mountain house in north carrolina.

What make and year of car?

2000 accord v6, worked the same on my '96 v6 accord when I still drove it.

 

[Squisher]

I have an automatic '02 Z28.

The wife was the primary driver last year to the tune of 24K miles. This year I've probably put 2K on it. Gotta love the wife's new traveling job.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Leetman
Maybe they drive an auto because they're not like 90% of the lamers in this thread who drive a manual to be "cool".

lol quite defensive arent we. 😀

i dont argue the fact that there are a lot of magazine racers here who talk out of their ass as long as they get popularity points but I think your percentage is a wee bit high. 😉

 

[Leetman]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: Leetman
Maybe they drive an auto because they're not like 90% of the lamers in this thread who drive a manual to be "cool".

lol quite defensive arent we. 😀

i dont argue the fact that there are a lot of magazine racers here who talk out of their ass as long as they get popularity points but I think your percentage is a wee bit high. 😉

Pfft you know what they say about statistics.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: Leetman
Maybe they drive an auto because they're not like 90% of the lamers in this thread who drive a manual to be "cool".

lol quite defensive arent we. 😀

i dont argue the fact that there are a lot of magazine racers here who talk out of their ass as long as they get popularity points but I think your percentage is a wee bit high. 😉

Probably mirrors the clip on ties. 😉

 

[desiplaya4life]

maybe... CUZ ITS HIS DAMN FUC KING MONEY AND HE WILL SPEND IT ON WHICHEVER HE WANTS? did u think of that a little?:Q:beer:

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: desiplaya4life
maybe... CUZ ITS HIS DAMN FUC KING MONEY AND HE WILL SPEND IT ON WHICHEVER HE WANTS? did u think of that a little?:Q:beer:

lol
yea
why the hell does he care why he bought an automatic m3.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: DaiShan
I have, I can go right up to redline in first (like 40 ish iirc, only did it twice when I first got my car and was stupid) I also shifted into first one time while doing 30 or so, had a hell of a bump as it dropped down and engine compression REALLY picked up. Similarly I have also done "Manual" shifting with my auto, put it in first floor it bump it to second at red line, then third, then fourth, I can feel each shift (and you REALLY feel each shift in my car the transmission is pretty rough for an auto) oh and on steep hills if I put it in first going down its just a crawl, I don't know exactly what point you were trying to make, but I don't need the brake except when coming to a complete stop, and this is coming down from our mountain house in north carrolina.

What make and year of car?

2000 accord v6, worked the same on my '96 v6 accord when I still drove it.

Hmmmmm, I have a '94 Accord and it will NOT downshift into first from speed until around 15 mph. If you select 1st at a higher speed, it will downshift to 2nd first.

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: Leetman
Maybe they drive an auto because they're not like 90% of the lamers in this thread who drive a manual to be "cool".

Yea I really think it has to do with penis size or something similar.. 😛

The performance differences are so negligable in most cases, so that really shouldnt matter. Not to mention 95% of the people buying cars like these aren't going to drag race them more then once or twice, and even then, its just for the fun.

The only big reason I could see someone getting a manual is the slightly better fuel performance, and it might be a little more fun to drive every now and then.

"OMG I need those two tenths of a second bettar to race my buddy's honda civac!!!one ricer!!!11"