Why tipping should be banned (according to Adam)

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Staples

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It is true that waiters at any medium to high priced restaurant can make a lot of money in tips, especially in this city where land value is very expensive (so there are fewer locations and they subsequently are always busy) and they get paid the local minimum wage for tipped employees which is $13/hour. I take this into consideration and how much I think their service is really worth before deciding my tip.

I hate waiters nearly 100% of the time. I can get my food faster and refill my glass way way faster than they can. I usually only go to self serve places.
 
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True, but in many states, under FEDERAL wage and hour laws, the restaurant is only required to pay tipped employees $2.13 per hour. The balance of the federally mandated minimum wage has to be made up from their tips. I'm glad I've lived MOST of my life in states where food servers and other tipped employees are treated like human beings and get paid the full state mandated minimum wage (or more)...and their tips are on top of that.

So stop tipping, which would require the employer to make up the different in minimum wage. This isn't rocket science.
 

OutHouse

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if you dare leave a tip they will fucking hunt you down to shove it up your ass if you ever do attempt to leave them a tip (it's essentially an insult there).

yup. my daughter is stationed in Yokosuka, she has been in Japan for 3 years and has grown to hate tipping when she comes home on leave.
 

destrekor

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So stop tipping, which would require the employer to make up the different in minimum wage. This isn't rocket science.

And screw over the innocent employee? Yeah, that's not cool.

Push for it through laws, because without laws, clearly some businesses are going to do the least they possibly can and take advantage of their employees [I mean, an employee is largely an unfortunately necessary expense in the end, one that is more often than not minimized as much as it can be - robotics and AI will replace many jobs for that very reason]. Thus why some states do just that. Unfortunately my state is not such a state, we're the unfortunate example of a disgustingly low minimum wage for tipped employees, continuing to formally acknowledge and encourage use of tips. So long as it is legally recognized as a legitimate method of pay, restaurants will take advantage of it, and why not, it's more advantageous to the serving industry to pay less out of their recognized revenue.

Don't worry, the GOP answer to such demands will be, "but we're encouraging business-minded individual development. They are rewarded for their work, that's the American way!"

They are largely more concentrated on stroking of the business bosses and less caring about the welfare of mere citizens. I mean, the thought is "businesses are people too", right?