brycejones
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So here we have another example of our fine lefty friends using homosexual innuendo as a means to insult someone. How very progressive of you.
So butt play can only be homosexual?
So here we have another example of our fine lefty friends using homosexual innuendo as a means to insult someone. How very progressive of you.
Sure thing Pence.Mike? You must have me confused with someone else. Keep guessing.....here is a hint: not Bob either.
The only hope is that somehow Trump gets smacked down hard. So hard that his name automatically takes on a negative connotation, the same way that Nixon and McCarthy do now. So that if anyone tries this sort of thing again he can be called Trumpian and dismissed
Unfortunately it looks like that is not going to happen and that this is the new normal for our politicians. Anything to win. Nothing is to low. Ethics are for chumps. As long as you don't get caught in a felony before the election you can make it go away after. Power is all that matters, do anything to get it.
So here we have another example of our fine lefty friends using homosexual innuendo as a means to insult someone. How very progressive of you.
Like Jackson Pollock with a mop.Mighty broad brush you're swinging there.
Have never claimed to be virtuous.
I appreciate your modesty but your own words tell us that you are truly one of the virtuous.
You're speaking to Sir Corn - Knight of the First Order of the Steely Dan.
lol.
Hey, I liked Steely Dan. They made some nice music.
lol. You've read Naked Lunch?
Nothing exemplifies typical lefty hypocrisy than a good homophobic insult. Well done.
So butt play can only be homosexual?
As I see it, part of the trouble here is "white identity". Suppose you were "black" and lived in the 1940s. Would your sense of "black identity" make you happy about being "black"? No -- the minorities wanted to be accepted as being merely "human" -- with dignity and an even chance at the extant opportunities. That was Pete Buttigieg's campaign message the other day, targeted at people like Mike Pence. People don't "want" to be homosexual when they're going to be treated like dirt for it.I voted for trump. I will not again.
And yes white males are under siege. I See open racism all over the media regarding us that I've never seen before in my life. I don't blame it on anybody but spineless whites. We have entered a new age. Its not going to be pretty when white men decide to do something about it. Like stop working and paying into the system and watch the world start eating each other.
When people realize that they've been hoodwinked into making a horrible mistake, they don't automatically turn around and admit it and thank you for pointing it out.
That's not how people work.
When people feel angry and betrayed and unsure of themselves, they're just as likely to double down on stupid.
What may have started out as poor judgment or simple ignorance becomes a point of pride.
You could start by asking some of those voters "what could we do to earn your vote?" instead of "why do you still support Trump?"
You might be surprised how people can accept your policy positions even if they would otherwise not prioritize that particular decision among alternatives (or perhaps even oppose your position) provided they feel like they were actually heard in the process of you arriving at those positions. Likewise you can completely alienate them even if they would be inclined to agree with you if you seem to be starting with the premise of how they're wrong, racist, or ignorant and need you to "enlighten" them on the proper way to think.
This is exactly why I think Buttigieg is the candidate to beat in 2020. He knows how to speak to people who would otherwise be opponents and not seem like he's "talking down to them," ignoring their concerns, or basically telling them "move out of your racist hick town to the big city where you can join us morally correct folks."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/hillary-clinton-spokesman-pete-buttigieg/index.html
You assume voting for Trump was rational in some indescribable way or that people can reason their way out of something they didn't reason their way into. People are stubborn, particularly conservatives. They're loyal to a fault.
I figure Trump is already shedding voters, the ones who took a chance on Trump & realize they rolled snake eyes. OTOH, if they're letting Fox tell 'em what they rolled, they think it's a winner. Voters most strongly affected by Trump/Russian con artistry exhibit a strong dunning kreuger effect, as well. "Mess with my head? Nobody messes with *my* head! I'm too smart!"
You assume voting for Trump was rational in some indescribable way or that people can reason their way out of something they didn't reason their way into. People are stubborn, particularly conservatives. They're loyal to a fault.
I figure Trump is already shedding voters, the ones who took a chance on Trump & realize they rolled snake eyes. OTOH, if they're letting Fox tell 'em what they rolled, they think it's a winner. Voters most strongly affected by Trump/Russian con artistry exhibit a strong dunning kreuger effect, as well. "Mess with my head? Nobody messes with *my* head! I'm too smart!"
You could try to appeal to previous Trump voters.
Or.............
You could take the old @Jhhnn approach and basically say “you were stupid to vote for Trump but we hate Trump enough that we’ll allow a racist like you to vote for our candidate.”
You could try to appeal to previous Trump voters.
Or.............
You could take the old @Jhhnn approach and basically say “you were stupid to vote for Trump but we hate Trump enough that we’ll allow a racist like you to vote for our candidate.”
So dishonest. I'm not belittling any Trump voter who realizes they made a mistake. It happens to everybody. If they can't come to that conclusion they'll vote for him again. In order for them to get there they'll necessarily have to realize that Trump messed with their minds. What I have to say to those people is that Trump isn't who & what they've been led to believe, that their emotional investment isn't warranted at all.
Step outside of your own perspective & pretend you're a Russian propagandist trying to tear America apart to understand why they backed Trump.