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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Hmm... does that mean the iPhone doesn't get 3G on the Tmobile network?
Yep
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Hmm... does that mean the iPhone doesn't get 3G on the Tmobile network?
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
i :heart: my iphone
Me too. The fact that it's now the best selling phone in the US speaks volumes.
Not really. The Razr held that crown for a long time and it was garbage. Its proof that people go with form over function - the Razr was strikingly more attractive than other phones at the time, but feature wise, it is subpar.
You might be able to say that with the Razr, but that is no where near the case with the iPhone. It's full of function, and every manufacturer is trying to duplicate it. The fact that it hasn't been out 2 years, and is now the top dog, is amazing.
I said in my first post that they addressed a lot of the feature issues with the 3G version, but the original iPhone was PURELY on form, and it sold like hotcakes.
not really. There wasn't a massive change in the 2 phones.
For functionality, there is no phone that beats the ease of use on the iphone. The only ones that come close are ones that use the same setup. Is it missing features? Of course, but so is every other phone out there. It comes down to what you use it for.
The email is terrible for business users, but the media/browser/apps beat any other phone out there.
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
i :heart: my iphone
Me too. The fact that it's now the best selling phone in the US speaks volumes.
Not really. The Razr held that crown for a long time and it was garbage. Its proof that people go with form over function - the Razr was strikingly more attractive than other phones at the time, but feature wise, it is subpar.
You might be able to say that with the Razr, but that is no where near the case with the iPhone. It's full of function, and every manufacturer is trying to duplicate it. The fact that it hasn't been out 2 years, and is now the top dog, is amazing.
I said in my first post that they addressed a lot of the feature issues with the 3G version, but the original iPhone was PURELY on form, and it sold like hotcakes.
not really. There wasn't a massive change in the 2 phones.
For functionality, there is no phone that beats the ease of use on the iphone. The only ones that come close are ones that use the same setup. Is it missing features? Of course, but so is every other phone out there. It comes down to what you use it for.
The email is terrible for business users, but the media/browser/apps beat any other phone out there.
You're kidding, right? 3G, GPS, Exchange support? Those are all HUGE in themselves, let alone together. That's the difference between a full-featured smartphone and every other phone on the market. Other than the touch screen, what did the iPhone do that the average $99 HTC phone or Blackberry Pearl didn't? I'd even say the Pearl was a far superior phone to the original iPhone.
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Deeko
You're kidding, right? 3G, GPS, Exchange support? Those are all HUGE in themselves, let alone together. That's the difference between a full-featured smartphone and every other phone on the market. Other than the touch screen, what did the iPhone do that the average $99 HTC phone or Blackberry Pearl didn't? I'd even say the Pearl was a far superior phone to the original iPhone.
uhh, a SOFTWARE upgrade added Exchange and the decent location finder. 3g was the only massive change.
What it does that other phones don't? I dunno, has a usable media player, a full web browser, and ease of use that doesn't require 15 steps to get the calculator function.
I've owned:
ATT (HTC) 8125, 8525, Tilt, 2125
SMT 5600
BB 8830
None of them are as simple to use as the iphone. The only thing better is the email (and the iphone does have awesome email, but its too simple)
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Deeko
You're kidding, right? 3G, GPS, Exchange support? Those are all HUGE in themselves, let alone together. That's the difference between a full-featured smartphone and every other phone on the market. Other than the touch screen, what did the iPhone do that the average $99 HTC phone or Blackberry Pearl didn't? I'd even say the Pearl was a far superior phone to the original iPhone.
uhh, a SOFTWARE upgrade added Exchange and the decent location finder. 3g was the only massive change.
What it does that other phones don't? I dunno, has a usable media player, a full web browser, and ease of use that doesn't require 15 steps to get the calculator function.
I've owned:
ATT (HTC) 8125, 8525, Tilt, 2125
SMT 5600
BB 8830
None of them are as simple to use as the iphone. The only thing better is the email (and the iphone does have awesome email, but its too simple)
Ok - why does it matter if it was software or not? You can't just discount Exchange just because it ruins your argument. It was a HUGE feature missing from the first iPhone, just like its a huge feature missing from the G1. 3G is an ancient technology - Verizon and Sprint had 3G over half a decade ago. GPS is also very big in making a phone a full-feature all-in-one device.
The only thing that made the first iPhone different was form. The user interface. Other than that, it brought nothing new to the table - and in fact was MISSING a lot of very standard features. There is no way you can justify the price point. Everyone that spent $500 on the first iPhone got ripped off big time.
Originally posted by: Deeko
Ok - why does it matter if it was software or not? You can't just discount Exchange just because it ruins your argument. It was a HUGE feature missing from the first iPhone, just like its a huge feature missing from the G1. 3G is an ancient technology - Verizon and Sprint had 3G over half a decade ago. GPS is also very big in making a phone a full-feature all-in-one device.
The only thing that made the first iPhone different was form. The user interface. Other than that, it brought nothing new to the table - and in fact was MISSING a lot of very standard features. There is no way you can justify the price point. Everyone that spent $500 on the first iPhone got ripped off big time.
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Cuz then you'd be just like all the other drones.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
I want to get myself one for Xmas. I already have AT&T with my contract ending September 2009. The only thing I don't like is the lack of MMS support.
Have you actually ever sent and/or received an MMS?
if MMS messages include messages with pictures, then yes. I do a few every week and receive a few.
Picturemail isn't MMS - for example sprint handles it internally - the people that you send the picture get a text message with a link in it.
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: mugs
I've never owned a smartphone, but I've recently played around with a friend's iPhone and another friend's Blackberry (not sure what model, but it's recent). I was blown away by the iPhone's interface, and especially its web browser. I couldn't believe how well it worked on such a small screen. When I tried to use the Blackberry browser to view a wikipedia page, it was barely readable, because an image forced all of the text into a narrow column on the left side of the screen. Even after I scrolled past that, the page was more difficult to read and navigate than on the iPhone.
I think it's funny that when the iPhone came out it was bashed as a gimmick. Now that every other cell phone company is making iPhone knock-offs, the Apple bashers think the knock-offs are the greatest thing since sliced bread.The iPhone isn't perfect, but it's pretty great.
You try typing a text message? with one hand? lol
I've seen it done... its really not that hard... my bf does it all the time and one of my friends too
Originally posted by: hiromizu
No reason not to. It's an amazing product for people of fine taste.
congratulations, you are now that guy. I didn't know that teens spending their parents paycheck constituted "people of fine taste"
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Shitty service provider.
Also, spending $80 a month for a shitty slow internet connection so you can check restraunt reviews? Or watch youtube on your phone? Are you kidding me?
If youre looking to burn money, upgrade your internet connection. If you want to look like a douche, get 5 collared shirts and pop them all. Either way, an iphone is an inneficient way of doing either.
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Deeko
You're kidding, right? 3G, GPS, Exchange support? Those are all HUGE in themselves, let alone together. That's the difference between a full-featured smartphone and every other phone on the market. Other than the touch screen, what did the iPhone do that the average $99 HTC phone or Blackberry Pearl didn't? I'd even say the Pearl was a far superior phone to the original iPhone.
uhh, a SOFTWARE upgrade added Exchange and the decent location finder. 3g was the only massive change.
What it does that other phones don't? I dunno, has a usable media player, a full web browser, and ease of use that doesn't require 15 steps to get the calculator function.
I've owned:
ATT (HTC) 8125, 8525, Tilt, 2125
SMT 5600
BB 8830
None of them are as simple to use as the iphone. The only thing better is the email (and the iphone does have awesome email, but its too simple)
Ok - why does it matter if it was software or not? You can't just discount Exchange just because it ruins your argument. It was a HUGE feature missing from the first iPhone, just like its a huge feature missing from the G1. 3G is an ancient technology - Verizon and Sprint had 3G over half a decade ago. GPS is also very big in making a phone a full-feature all-in-one device.
The only thing that made the first iPhone different was form. The user interface. Other than that, it brought nothing new to the table - and in fact was MISSING a lot of very standard features. There is no way you can justify the price point. Everyone that spent $500 on the first iPhone got ripped off big time.
mmmmk then. You've successfully changed your argument 10 times in that reply.
Exchange was missing, they added it, so its not missing anymore.
Woopee, Verizon/Sprint had 3g five years ago + absolute garbage phones that couldn't do anything productive with the technology...whats the point?
And if you think the form/interface are no biggie, then I'd like to know what phone out there 2 years ago could compete with it. The interface/usability of any device is a pretty massive deal. You can have every feature under the sun + a clunky interface and nobody will use it.
Originally posted by: RGN
Originally posted by: Deeko
Ok - why does it matter if it was software or not? You can't just discount Exchange just because it ruins your argument. It was a HUGE feature missing from the first iPhone, just like its a huge feature missing from the G1. 3G is an ancient technology - Verizon and Sprint had 3G over half a decade ago. GPS is also very big in making a phone a full-feature all-in-one device.
The only thing that made the first iPhone different was form. The user interface. Other than that, it brought nothing new to the table - and in fact was MISSING a lot of very standard features. There is no way you can justify the price point. Everyone that spent $500 on the first iPhone got ripped off big time.
Actually, as a first generation device from a company that previously had not engineered a similar product, the iPhone was very good. Apple has continued to improve the device and its market.... making most of this whole conversation pointless. WTF cares what the thing looked like almost 2 years ago. Todays evolutionary device is excellent with no real equal in the consumer space.
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Shitty service provider.
Also, spending $80 a month for a shitty slow internet connection so you can check restraunt reviews? Or watch youtube on your phone? Are you kidding me?
If youre looking to burn money, upgrade your internet connection. If you want to look like a douche, get 5 collared shirts and pop them all. Either way, an iphone is an inneficient way of doing either.
3G is not slow. I don't know how the iPhone 3G runs on it but the N95-4 runs awesome with 3G. AT&T is perfectly fine. If you all think it sucks it's probably because you were on old Cingular before they started spreading GSM850.
$70/month is a ripoff but $39.99 + $20 internet is what everyone else pays. The extra $10 for iPhone 3G is unjustified because what I pay (39.99 + 20) is 3G capable already. AT&T rips off iPhone users, but then again iPhone users are as dumb as Razr users.
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: aceO07
Originally posted by: her209
Because you have to pay $80/month for service.
Yup. Unless you need all the services, it's a lot to pay every month.
To be fair, the price is no different than any other voice + data plan from the other providers
Are you insane? I have voice+data from Sprint and it is no where near $80/month.
sigh
I shouldn't be doing this but...
Sprint: Everything Data: 70 bucks/month, unlimited data + 450min
VZW: PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email: Monthly access starting at $79.99
TM: Internet: 40, Voice, starts at 30 = 70
ATT: Data + 450 = 70 bucks
Thanks for playing.
(SERO doesn't count, thanks)
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Shitty service provider.
Also, spending $80 a month for a shitty slow internet connection so you can check restraunt reviews? Or watch youtube on your phone? Are you kidding me?
If youre looking to burn money, upgrade your internet connection. If you want to look like a douche, get 5 collared shirts and pop them all. Either way, an iphone is an inneficient way of doing either.
Originally posted by: state 08
For me, the deal breaker on anything other than a phone for the Sprint Network is my SERO plan.
$30/month, is just way to good of a deal to pass up for everything.
Unlimited Internet
Unlimited Text
Unlimited Sprint to Sprint and Sprint to Nextel
Unlimited Nights and Weekend that start at 7pm
Unlimited Roaming
oh and 500 Anytime (which I personally never go over). I don't even want to know what the ATT equivelent costs.
Using a Centro right now and it serves all my purposes. EMail, IM, Google Maps, and great reception in the Metro Detroit area. Also, the Palm has my favorite app, which is CallRec (automatically records all incoming/outgoing calls to the MicroSD)
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Nothing beats the iPhone's browser. It is amazing, as is the easy to use UI. Bow down to the iphone.
