Why Shouldn't I get an iPhone?

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Because you can't reboot a web server with it, but a 1+ year old phone can.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

I always jarr out at that, the guy is hilarious.

I know that's mostly satire, but most of the things the page says you can do you actually can. Recording voice, rebooting machines/restarting services, etc.

What you can't do with the other phones is pull up an Opentable app, get a list of all the restaurants within a short distance, get all available reservation times, menus, reviews, etc. and make a reservation all on your phone. There are countless examples of things like this where the iPhone just reigns supreme.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: daveymark
att = tmobile? thanks Ns1, learn something new every day hurry with that ninja edit

Damn you're too fast.

 

[ric1287]

don't get an iphone if you never plan on listening to music on your phone. Nothing matches the media capabilities or web browser on the iphone.

 

[daveymark]

Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the internet price will drop to $20.

although if you get the G1 the lowest "data" package you can get is $25, and is bundled with 400 text messages. must have voice plan too though

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: daveymark
Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the price will drop to $20.

Interesting.


w/e, I'm gonna see if the BB Storm is any good, and if it is I'm getting that; if not I'm probably getting an oldschool voice only phone


the iPhone keyboard is a killer for me, I don't care about all the other drawbacks

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: ric1287
don't get an iphone if you never plan on listening to music on your phone. Nothing matches the media capabilities or web browser on the iphone.

Eh, I don't really listen to music that often on my iPhone. For me, it's about the apps. Nothing touches the quality of the apps that are available. Obviously the interface makes them that much better, but some of the things I use:

1) Real-time flight status information
2) Real-time reservation and review information for restaurants in the vicinity
3) Real-time gas prices
4) Real-time traffic information
5) Real-time weather information, breakdown by the hour, etc.
6) Games. This is the first phone where I actually play the games when I'm not just sitting on a plane or something. The games are really starting to be full-featured and fun.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: daveymark
Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the price will drop to $20.

Interesting.


w/e, I'm gonna see if the BB Storm is any good, and if it is I'm getting that; if not I'm probably getting an oldschool voice only phone


the iPhone keyboard is a killer for me, I don't care about all the other drawbacks

I haven't read any of the other replies you've made, but have you worked with the keyboard for any length of time? It's extremely annoying at first, but you adapt and can easily start typing as fast as you otherwise would. The lack of tactile feedback does suck, but even coming from a Dash I was able to get used to it.

I sound like an Apple fanboy.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: daveymark
Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the price will drop to $20.

Interesting.


w/e, I'm gonna see if the BB Storm is any good, and if it is I'm getting that; if not I'm probably getting an oldschool voice only phone


the iPhone keyboard is a killer for me, I don't care about all the other drawbacks

I haven't read any of the other replies you've made, but have you worked with the keyboard for any length of time? It's extremely annoying at first, but you adapt and can easily start typing as fast as you otherwise would. The lack of tactile feedback does suck, but even coming from a Dash I was able to get used to it.

I sound like an Apple fanboy.

I tried it for half an hour and wanted to stab myself in the face, so that's pretty much the extent of it lol

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: daveymark
Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the price will drop to $20.

Interesting.


w/e, I'm gonna see if the BB Storm is any good, and if it is I'm getting that; if not I'm probably getting an oldschool voice only phone


the iPhone keyboard is a killer for me, I don't care about all the other drawbacks

I haven't read any of the other replies you've made, but have you worked with the keyboard for any length of time? It's extremely annoying at first, but you adapt and can easily start typing as fast as you otherwise would. The lack of tactile feedback does suck, but even coming from a Dash I was able to get used to it.

I sound like an Apple fanboy.

Yeah, it's funny how the iPhone does that to you.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: daveymark
Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the price will drop to $20.

Interesting.


w/e, I'm gonna see if the BB Storm is any good, and if it is I'm getting that; if not I'm probably getting an oldschool voice only phone


the iPhone keyboard is a killer for me, I don't care about all the other drawbacks

I haven't read any of the other replies you've made, but have you worked with the keyboard for any length of time? It's extremely annoying at first, but you adapt and can easily start typing as fast as you otherwise would. The lack of tactile feedback does suck, but even coming from a Dash I was able to get used to it.

I sound like an Apple fanboy.

I tried it for half an hour and wanted to stab myself in the face, so that's pretty much the extent of it lol

I thought the same thing when a co worker let me spent some time with his first gen iPhone. Once he told me the secret, I found it tolerable. Now, I love it

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: daveymark
Ns1, $40 for tmo internet is without voice. once you add voice the price will drop to $20.

Interesting.


w/e, I'm gonna see if the BB Storm is any good, and if it is I'm getting that; if not I'm probably getting an oldschool voice only phone


the iPhone keyboard is a killer for me, I don't care about all the other drawbacks

I haven't read any of the other replies you've made, but have you worked with the keyboard for any length of time? It's extremely annoying at first, but you adapt and can easily start typing as fast as you otherwise would. The lack of tactile feedback does suck, but even coming from a Dash I was able to get used to it.

I sound like an Apple fanboy.

I tried it for half an hour and wanted to stab myself in the face, so that's pretty much the extent of it lol

I thought the same thing when a co worker let me spent some time with his first gen iPhone. Once he told me the secret, I found it tolerable. Now, I love it

I will keep note of that, as the BB storm is still my first choice


I have a thread on this subject on the apple subforum: Things you hate about teh iphone

 

[wasssup]

I need to look at the bb storm (I have verizon and am eligible to upgrade phones in a few weeks) but will probably just wait for my contract to expire so I can get the iPhone. Whats going to suck is by the time I get my 3G iPhone Apple will announce an updated phone weeks later and I'll be stuck with old tech for 2 years.

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: Deeko
-Lack of a keyboard is terrible. I sent thousands of texts and emails from my phone...no keyboard = no go.

-Lack of MMS is just plain stupid. Every FREE camera phone on the market the last 4 years can do this. Email does NOT just make this go away - not everyone out there is a computer nerd like the people here (cue the responses that getting email on your phone isn't hard....yes it is. cue the responses that you can send an email to xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.com and get the same effect. Yea, because that's convenient and not a huge pain in the ass)

-Lack of cut-and-paste is annoying

-AT&T forces you into overpriced plans

-Closed system limits the potential of the device

-No expandable memory

Now, I was a big time iPhone hater the first generation, and with good reason. It lacked pretty much ALL of the advanced features of other smartphones, while charging a big premium. They fixed a lot of this with the 3G version - although its still lacking a lot of stuff, they did add a lot of big features they lacked (3G, GPS, Exchange) and halved the price. However, I still wouldn't buy one.

QFT. exactly.

and the biggest reason is that AT&T charges you up the wall for the iphone 3G. i would have bought it if you didnt have to get a contract with AT&T/you could unlock it to tmobile.

 

[LS8]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: her209
Because you have to pay $80/month for service.

Yup. Unless you need all the services, it's a lot to pay every month.

To be fair, the price is no different than any other voice + data plan from the other providers

Are you insane? I have voice+data from Sprint and it is no where near $80/month.

sigh

I shouldn't be doing this but...

Sprint: Everything Data: 70 bucks/month, unlimited data + 450min
VZW: PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email: Monthly access starting at $79.99
TM: Internet: 40, Voice, starts at 30 = 70

ATT: Data + 450 = 70 bucks


Thanks for playing.


(SERO doesn't count, thanks)

I have been a Sprint customer since 2001. I have 500 minutes and unlimited data. I pay about $65/month with taxes.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: her209
Because you have to pay $80/month for service.

Yup. Unless you need all the services, it's a lot to pay every month.

To be fair, the price is no different than any other voice + data plan from the other providers

Are you insane? I have voice+data from Sprint and it is no where near $80/month.

sigh

I shouldn't be doing this but...

Sprint: Everything Data: 70 bucks/month, unlimited data + 450min
VZW: PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email: Monthly access starting at $79.99
TM: Internet: 40, Voice, starts at 30 = 70

ATT: Data + 450 = 70 bucks


Thanks for playing.


(SERO doesn't count, thanks)

I have been a Sprint customer since 2001. I have 500 minutes and unlimited data. I pay about $65/month with taxes.

Well when you can price that out on sprint.com, let me know =P

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Deeko
-Lack of a keyboard is terrible. I sent thousands of texts and emails from my phone...no keyboard = no go.

-Lack of MMS is just plain stupid. Every FREE camera phone on the market the last 4 years can do this. Email does NOT just make this go away - not everyone out there is a computer nerd like the people here (cue the responses that getting email on your phone isn't hard....yes it is. cue the responses that you can send an email to xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.com and get the same effect. Yea, because that's convenient and not a huge pain in the ass)

-Lack of cut-and-paste is annoying

-AT&T forces you into overpriced plans

-Closed system limits the potential of the device

-No expandable memory

Now, I was a big time iPhone hater the first generation, and with good reason. It lacked pretty much ALL of the advanced features of other smartphones, while charging a big premium. They fixed a lot of this with the 3G version - although its still lacking a lot of stuff, they did add a lot of big features they lacked (3G, GPS, Exchange) and halved the price. However, I still wouldn't buy one.

QFT. exactly.

and the biggest reason is that AT&T charges you up the wall for the iphone 3G. i would have bought it if you didnt have to get a contract with AT&T/you could unlock it to tmobile.

Someone else posted the prices, and I don't see why you're saying this. With T-mobile you'd get 600 minutes + unlimited data for $40+$25. With AT&T it's $40+$30 for 450+unlimited data. T-mobile is a slightly better deal, but it's hardly a difference worth fretting about.

 

[LS8]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: her209
Because you have to pay $80/month for service.

Yup. Unless you need all the services, it's a lot to pay every month.

To be fair, the price is no different than any other voice + data plan from the other providers

Are you insane? I have voice+data from Sprint and it is no where near $80/month.

sigh

I shouldn't be doing this but...

Sprint: Everything Data: 70 bucks/month, unlimited data + 450min
VZW: PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email: Monthly access starting at $79.99
TM: Internet: 40, Voice, starts at 30 = 70

ATT: Data + 450 = 70 bucks


Thanks for playing.


(SERO doesn't count, thanks)

I have been a Sprint customer since 2001. I have 500 minutes and unlimited data. I pay about $65/month with taxes.

Well when you can price that out on sprint.com, let me know =P

Buying plans online is silly. You can get much better deals if you walk into the store. You can also get deals for being with a company for a while and not changing companies every year because XYZ company has your plan for $2 less.

Gees man, leave your house once in a while.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
i :heart: my iphone

Me too. The fact that it's now the best selling phone in the US speaks volumes.

Not really. The Razr held that crown for a long time and it was garbage. Its proof that people go with form over function - the Razr was strikingly more attractive than other phones at the time, but feature wise, it is subpar.

You might be able to say that with the Razr, but that is no where near the case with the iPhone. It's full of function, and every manufacturer is trying to duplicate it. The fact that it hasn't been out 2 years, and is now the top dog, is amazing.

I said in my first post that they addressed a lot of the feature issues with the 3G version, but the original iPhone was PURELY on form, and it sold like hotcakes.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: her209
Because you have to pay $80/month for service.

Yup. Unless you need all the services, it's a lot to pay every month.

To be fair, the price is no different than any other voice + data plan from the other providers

Are you insane? I have voice+data from Sprint and it is no where near $80/month.

sigh

I shouldn't be doing this but...

Sprint: Everything Data: 70 bucks/month, unlimited data + 450min
VZW: PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email: Monthly access starting at $79.99
TM: Internet: 40, Voice, starts at 30 = 70

ATT: Data + 450 = 70 bucks


Thanks for playing.


(SERO doesn't count, thanks)

I have been a Sprint customer since 2001. I have 500 minutes and unlimited data. I pay about $65/month with taxes.

Well when you can price that out on sprint.com, let me know =P

Buying plans online is silly. You can get much better deals if you walk into the store. You can also get deals for being with a company for a while and not changing companies every year because XYZ company has your plan for $2 less.

Gees man, leave your house once in a while.

This is for sake of argument only. I get 25% through my employer

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Deeko
-Lack of a keyboard is terrible. I sent thousands of texts and emails from my phone...no keyboard = no go.

-Lack of MMS is just plain stupid. Every FREE camera phone on the market the last 4 years can do this. Email does NOT just make this go away - not everyone out there is a computer nerd like the people here (cue the responses that getting email on your phone isn't hard....yes it is. cue the responses that you can send an email to xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.com and get the same effect. Yea, because that's convenient and not a huge pain in the ass)

-Lack of cut-and-paste is annoying

-AT&T forces you into overpriced plans

-Closed system limits the potential of the device

-No expandable memory

Now, I was a big time iPhone hater the first generation, and with good reason. It lacked pretty much ALL of the advanced features of other smartphones, while charging a big premium. They fixed a lot of this with the 3G version - although its still lacking a lot of stuff, they did add a lot of big features they lacked (3G, GPS, Exchange) and halved the price. However, I still wouldn't buy one.

QFT. exactly.

and the biggest reason is that AT&T charges you up the wall for the iphone 3G. i would have bought it if you didnt have to get a contract with AT&T/you could unlock it to tmobile.

Someone else posted the prices, and I don't see why you're saying this. With T-mobile you'd get 600 minutes + unlimited data for $40+$25. With AT&T it's $40+$30 for 450+unlimited data. T-mobile is a slightly better deal, but it's hardly a difference worth fretting about.

well im a college student so even $5 is a big difference for me, hence why im on SERO. i got the touch pro basically for free since i called sprint and noticed that i had credits on my account, etc.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Deeko
-Lack of a keyboard is terrible. I sent thousands of texts and emails from my phone...no keyboard = no go.

-Lack of MMS is just plain stupid. Every FREE camera phone on the market the last 4 years can do this. Email does NOT just make this go away - not everyone out there is a computer nerd like the people here (cue the responses that getting email on your phone isn't hard....yes it is. cue the responses that you can send an email to xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.com and get the same effect. Yea, because that's convenient and not a huge pain in the ass)

-Lack of cut-and-paste is annoying

-AT&T forces you into overpriced plans

-Closed system limits the potential of the device

-No expandable memory

Now, I was a big time iPhone hater the first generation, and with good reason. It lacked pretty much ALL of the advanced features of other smartphones, while charging a big premium. They fixed a lot of this with the 3G version - although its still lacking a lot of stuff, they did add a lot of big features they lacked (3G, GPS, Exchange) and halved the price. However, I still wouldn't buy one.

QFT. exactly.

and the biggest reason is that AT&T charges you up the wall for the iphone 3G. i would have bought it if you didnt have to get a contract with AT&T/you could unlock it to tmobile.

Someone else posted the prices, and I don't see why you're saying this. With T-mobile you'd get 600 minutes + unlimited data for $40+$25. With AT&T it's $40+$30 for 450+unlimited data. T-mobile is a slightly better deal, but it's hardly a difference worth fretting about.

well im a college student so even $5 is a big difference for me, hence why im on SERO. i got the touch pro basically for free since i called sprint and noticed that i had credits on my account, etc.

Judging by the equipment in your sig, I'd say you're full of shit.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
i :heart: my iphone

Me too. The fact that it's now the best selling phone in the US speaks volumes.

Not really. The Razr held that crown for a long time and it was garbage. Its proof that people go with form over function - the Razr was strikingly more attractive than other phones at the time, but feature wise, it is subpar.

You might be able to say that with the Razr, but that is no where near the case with the iPhone. It's full of function, and every manufacturer is trying to duplicate it. The fact that it hasn't been out 2 years, and is now the top dog, is amazing.

I said in my first post that they addressed a lot of the feature issues with the 3G version, but the original iPhone was PURELY on form, and it sold like hotcakes.

not really. There wasn't a massive change in the 2 phones.

For functionality, there is no phone that beats the ease of use on the iphone. The only ones that come close are ones that use the same setup. Is it missing features? Of course, but so is every other phone out there. It comes down to what you use it for.

The email is terrible for business users, but the media/browser/apps beat any other phone out there.

 

[Triforceofcourage]

I have an iphone and love it so far. This coming from a former apple hater that purchased a macbook and returned it a few days later

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Deeko
-Lack of a keyboard is terrible. I sent thousands of texts and emails from my phone...no keyboard = no go.

-Lack of MMS is just plain stupid. Every FREE camera phone on the market the last 4 years can do this. Email does NOT just make this go away - not everyone out there is a computer nerd like the people here (cue the responses that getting email on your phone isn't hard....yes it is. cue the responses that you can send an email to xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.com and get the same effect. Yea, because that's convenient and not a huge pain in the ass)

-Lack of cut-and-paste is annoying

-AT&T forces you into overpriced plans

-Closed system limits the potential of the device

-No expandable memory

Now, I was a big time iPhone hater the first generation, and with good reason. It lacked pretty much ALL of the advanced features of other smartphones, while charging a big premium. They fixed a lot of this with the 3G version - although its still lacking a lot of stuff, they did add a lot of big features they lacked (3G, GPS, Exchange) and halved the price. However, I still wouldn't buy one.

QFT. exactly.

and the biggest reason is that AT&T charges you up the wall for the iphone 3G. i would have bought it if you didnt have to get a contract with AT&T/you could unlock it to tmobile.

Someone else posted the prices, and I don't see why you're saying this. With T-mobile you'd get 600 minutes + unlimited data for $40+$25. With AT&T it's $40+$30 for 450+unlimited data. T-mobile is a slightly better deal, but it's hardly a difference worth fretting about.

well im a college student so even $5 is a big difference for me, hence why im on SERO. i got the touch pro basically for free since i called sprint and noticed that i had credits on my account, etc.

Judging by the equipment in your sig, I'd say you're full of shit.

sorry i use my parents computers, and i dont have a computer for myself as i sold my previous ones. think before you speak.

edit: spelling

 

[LS8]

If you conned your parents into buying all this:

Mobile Devices: HTC Touch Pro on Sprint SERO 500 | iPod Touch 16GB (2G)
Game Consoles: PS3 60GB | Nintendo Wii
Desktop: Q9450 2.66Ghz @ 3.6Ghz | Asus P5Q Deluxe | GTX260 896MB | 2x2GB DDR2-1000 | Dell 2407WFP (A04) | XP Pro SP3
HTPC: Xeon 3060 2.4Ghz @ 3.6Ghz | Asus P5W DH Deluxe | 8800GTS 320MB | 2x1GB DDR2-800 | Sony VPL-VW100 1080p Projector | XP Pro SP3

Then why not also con them into buying the phone you want?

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