Ahahahaha, you actually believe the Census would count 20 illegal Mexican to a house and trailers???
Ahahahaha, you actually believe the Census would count 20 illegal Mexican to a house and trailers???
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Ahahahaha, you actually believe the Census would count 20 illegal Mexican to a house and trailers???
Actually, they do. They also use simulation and patterns to come up with an accurate number. If they are off by much, they probably are off by 1-3%.
No one should learn to talk and just keep to themselves. As long as communication is necessary, learn whatever language(s) are necessary...to be so ethnocentric is silly.
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Ahahahaha, you actually believe the Census would count 20 illegal Mexican to a house and trailers???
Actually, they do. They also use simulation and patterns to come up with an accurate number. If they are off by much, they probably are off by 1-3%.
I doubt that he Census people went to Con-Agra and Pilgrims Pride Chicken trailers and counted all the people living in them.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Ahahahaha, you actually believe the Census would count 20 illegal Mexican to a house and trailers???
Actually, they do. They also use simulation and patterns to come up with an accurate number. If they are off by much, they probably are off by 1-3%.
I doubt that he Census people went to Con-Agra and Pilgrims Pride Chicken trailers and counted all the people living in them.
I'm sure the DDR MCPs counted them though. :roll:
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common language is fundamental to the unity of a people. without it ..sh1t goes from ugly to hellish. look around the world for ethnic strife where people segregate their cultures in a country...lack of common language being a big contributer to misunderstanding/isolation from other. humans are humans ... we aren't high minded unemotional beings unaffected by things like the feeling of belonging to a country, which is just an extention of family.. of tribe. when you become alien in your own country because of language barriers, you lose all connection...your countryman becomes meaningless as someone on the other side of the world.
plus its plain inconsiderate. come to a country, learn to speak to the people there. its like coming to live as a permanent guest in someones home and telling the people to f*ck off, i don't want anything to do with u, let alone be in your family.
plus its plain inconsiderate. come to a country, learn to speak to the people there. its like coming to live as a permanent guest in someones home and telling the people to f*ck off, i don't want anything to do with u, let alone be in your family.
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The cost for people that are not even in school to be forced to learn English would be enourmous. This idea would never stand. Many people talk about wasting money on dumb ideas. I believe this is certainly one of them. How about worrying about the kids that are in school, who have more potential than those who come here and work for petty wages.
My great-grandparents came over from Italy in 1921. Guess what, they learned English. If you didn't, you couldn't work. Why should we kowtow to those who come to America and don't even respect us enough to learn the language?
Exactly. I think that foreigners SHOULD learn English, but simply seeing another language on a childrens' learning toy isn't cause for alarm. Like I said earlier, it's good for them.
Im going to make this simple. If you expect to speak spanish only in America, you will never have a good job, never live outside of a spanish town and never be treated as an equal in the business world
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You shouldn't. Having a mediocre command of two languages is inferior to a superior command of one. Given that English is a better, more popular language - nevermind the fact that it's the language spoken by most in the US - and one has no good reason for people to learn Spanish. Any immigrants should learn English immediately. That's simply good immigration practice on the immigrant's part.
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Better because I speak it
Actually better because it's far more popular. Multiple languages throughout the world is silly anyway, but anyhow this is an English speaking country. Learning spanish is a waste of time unless you work in landscaping (oops, I didn't say that
).Originally posted by: Skoorb
Better because I speak it
Actually better because it's far more popular. Multiple languages throughout the world is silly anyway, but anyhow this is an English speaking country. Learning spanish is a waste of time unless you work in landscaping (oops, I didn't say that
If you bring the "world" into your arguement than mandarin is easily the best language with twice the speakers than english. so go ahead and waste your time speaking english
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Mandarin is not the national language in the US.Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Better because I speak it
Actually better because it's far more popular. Multiple languages throughout the world is silly anyway, but anyhow this is an English speaking country. Learning spanish is a waste of time unless you work in landscaping (oops, I didn't say that
If you bring the "world" into your arguement than mandarin is easily the best language with twice the speakers than english. so go ahead and waste your time speaking english
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Mandarin is not the national language in the US.Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Better because I speak it
Actually better because it's far more popular. Multiple languages throughout the world is silly anyway, but anyhow this is an English speaking country. Learning spanish is a waste of time unless you work in landscaping (oops, I didn't say that
If you bring the "world" into your arguement than mandarin is easily the best language with twice the speakers than english. so go ahead and waste your time speaking english
neither is english
Yeah, but when they get to be like manuals where the instructions are ordered from "Spanish to Chinese to ... to English" it gets outrageous.
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Practically speaking yes it is.Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Mandarin is not the national language in the US.Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Better because I speak it
Actually better because it's far more popular. Multiple languages throughout the world is silly anyway, but anyhow this is an English speaking country. Learning spanish is a waste of time unless you work in landscaping (oops, I didn't say that
If you bring the "world" into your arguement than mandarin is easily the best language with twice the speakers than english. so go ahead and waste your time speaking english
neither is english
I totally agree, I attend a University where it is REQUIRED to take 4 semesters of a foreign language, I find that to be total BS, first off I am Indian and I can speak my language(which they dont acknowledge), secondly i have no interest whatsoever to learn spanish, and i find it really hard to do (mostly cause I dont give a fvck...) but anywho, I guess this is just a rant....It pisses me off that I have to learn spanish, I will 99pct never use it in my life......
skoorb
Practically? Only if you're 1)educated 2)relatively assimilated and 3)in an constant english speaking context. Do you think that the average immigrant from mexico, uneducated even in his own language, is going to strive to 1)go to school 2)give up everything in his culture and 3)get a job in an office?
My neighborhood of newly developed luxury houses looks like a barrio in the work day time. When I want my goddamn pool fountain shifted or my driveway paved differently you think I go talk to any of the twenty or more guys working on my property? No, I make a phone call.
Practically? Only if you're 1)educated 2)relatively assimilated and 3)in an constant english speaking context. Do you think that the average immigrant from mexico, uneducated even in his own language, is going to strive to 1)go to school 2)give up everything in his culture and 3)get a job in an office?
My neighborhood of newly developed luxury houses looks like a barrio in the work day time. When I want my goddamn pool fountain shifted or my driveway paved differently you think I go talk to any of the twenty or more guys working on my property? No, I make a phone call.
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