Why outrage over CEO pay but not over public sector union pay?

[HomerJS]

Because if a cop shoots someone without probable cause and that person almost dies, the cop doesn't get bailed out, allowed to keep their job with bonuses

 

[alkemyst]

No the ultra rich get far more than simple breaks. They get government services on a grand scale. "My abuse of workers in foreign lands has led to insurrection, send in the Marines to protect my investments, er, American interests." "You got it boss!"

Wow just wow. That would be extremely rare even if true. American businesses being attacked though would warrant protection.

 

[IronWing]

Wow just wow. That would be extremely rare even if true. American businesses being attacked though would warrant protection.

Just the bulk of US overseas adventures.

http://www.zompist.com/latam.html

 

[alkemyst]

Just the bulk of US overseas adventures.

http://www.zompist.com/latam.html

So who are the rich ordering those actions?

 

[piasabird]

Actually corporate pay is not private. What about the stock holders?

I am tired of hearing how teachers of firemen or policmen have it so bad but they never tell you how much they make????

 

[jstern01]

I know my nieces never made more than 22,500 a year when they taught. My aunt who taught for 26 years in Florida has a doctorate in education made about $45,000/year and had average class sizes of 30 kids. Does that help?

 

[Craig234]

Wow just wow. That would be extremely rare even if true. American businesses being attacked though would warrant protection.

LOL, the igorance is quaint. The US miiltary has largely been a tool of US corporations for a century.

You should read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" for some idea. As he explains it, the US would pursue other countries' money first with 'economic plans' to make their leader rich while he signed away the country's wealth to go to US corporations; if that failed, next came the 'Jackals', covert pressure, assassination; if that failed, the military.

In the meantime, here's the famous quote from General Smedley Butler, then the highest decorated Marine in US history, as he looked at his service, in the 1930's:

I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class thug for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

 

[alkemyst]

LOL, the igorance is quaint. The US miiltary has largely been a tool of US corporations for a century.

You should read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" for some idea. As he explains it, the US would pursue other countries' money first with 'economic plans' to make their leader rich while he signed away the country's wealth to go to US corporations; if that failed, next came the 'Jackals', covert pressure, assassination; if that failed, the military.

In the meantime, here's the famous quote from General Smedly Butler, then the highest decorated Marine in US history, as he looked at his service, in the 1930's:

I don't see that directly benefiting most of the 'rich' as specified. I am sure there are a few parties behind that though.

That's the same as saying everyone in the ghetto slings crack.

 

[Craig234]

I don't see that directly benefiting most of the 'rich' as specified. I am sure there are a few parties behind that though.

That's the same as saying everyone in the ghetto slings crack.

Look, you can remain willfully ignorant if you like. Why would I waste my time?

For others, if they have heard about 'Confessions of an economic hit man' and would like to get the flavor of the book, here's a long chapter by chapter summary:

http://www.bookjive.com/wiki/Book:Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

US Corporations are the largest driver of US foreign policy including military policy.

Every country pretty much is driven by its business and political classes, who all hide that.

For example, another good book you won't read, Chris Hedges' "War is a Force That Gives Us Meaning", discusses how political leaders use war for rallying the people when they're in trouble. For example, the seemingly pointless war between England and Argentina was about the Argentinian Junta being in political trouble, and it worked. Britain milked some political benefit as well. Too bad for the military people killed for that 'benefit'.

 

[Rainsford]

In a thread based on the premise that public sector employees are all grossly overpaid, it would make sense to have some sort of data backing that up...wouldn't it? But it does indeed appear to be missing...

 

[rchiu]

In a thread based on the premise that public sector employees are all grossly overpaid, it would make sense to have some sort of data backing that up...wouldn't it? But it does indeed appear to be missing...

Hah, yeah, just like how all CEO are grossly overpaid and only get the job because of the corrupt relationship with the board right?

I mean does any of those occupy wall st. people really give any data to back up their protest? Wait, I guess they have to know what the f they are protesting.....

 

[alkemyst]

In a thread based on the premise that public sector employees are all grossly overpaid, it would make sense to have some sort of data backing that up...wouldn't it? But it does indeed appear to be missing...

There is data. A cop in my city can average $120k, same with firemen. I met steel workers that bitched they got pay CUTS to $150k...and have 10 years on the job.

Pretty much too much.

 

[Zorba]

There is data. A cop in my city can average $120k, same with firemen. I met steel workers that bitched they got pay CUTS to $150k...and have 10 years on the job.

Pretty much too much.

What steel workers are public employees?

Please provide links to your city's police and firefighter's pay scale being 120k for a normal officer, because your word for it based on a conversation with someone isn't much proof. All the large cities around here post the salary schedules.

Around here, after teachers got a pay raise, you can start off at $32.9K and after 21 years on the job you can make a whopping $45K. Link

BTW: If some guy has a base salary of 40K, but brings in 110K/yr because he works 100 hours per week and never take vacation, why does that reflect poorly on the employee? The company could hire another 1.5 people and not allow any overtime, but for whatever reason the company has decided it would rather pay overtime.