Why on earth is NASCAR more popular than F-1?

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CFster

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NASCAR is more of a driver sport - F1 is more of a team sport. What I mean is a lot of the competition happens off the track in F1.

That said, F1 hasn't taken off in this country for the same reason road racing in general hasn't. The American public likes to be catered to, and watching formula cars on a road course takes too much thought on their part. They like the convenience of homogenized cars that look like the cars they drive going around in circles in front of them - it's easy to watch.

Sort of like why wrestling is the highest rated programming in it's time slot - the public is stupid as a whole.
 

fsstrike

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I personally love F1, and hate Nascar. Bunch of cars driving in a continuous circle just doesnt do it for me, and the cars are and look crap compared to F1. But thats just my opinion.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ok the average yearly budget for an F-1 team is $300 million. Most of which goes into R&D.

Whoever said that Michael Schumacher gets $80 million a year I'd like to see an article or something, because I really doubt that. I'm not saying your wrong, because it could be very possible, but i'm kinda skeptical.

I loathe NASCAR. I find it revolting that they'd waste fuel on it. If you're gonna go in circles, do it with something cool (IRL or CART for instance). Also, don't bother with the "stock" car B.S. They are about as stock as a funny car (drag racing).

I remember reading an article where some guy criticized the editors of a magazine for making fun of NASCAR and pretty much only having coverage of Rally cars and F-1. He tried to say that the reason people relate to NASCAR is that they could build something similar. I don't know how he could say this when it would be easier to make a go-kart, which would be more similar to an F-1 car than any car he could build to resemble a NASCAR (in more than appearance).

The only reason that NASCAR is more popular is that there are more wrecks. Having 40+ cars fender to fender will obviously create more wrecks.

I love F-1, but realize it is kinda boring, especially when a team and a driver (Ferrari, Schuey) are dominating so much. At the very least people should be watching the IRL over NASCAR.

Just my 2 cents.


http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/8966150.htm
Schumacher was born in Germany and lives in Sweden. Last year he made, according to Forbes Magazine, $80 million in salary, bonuses, prize money and endorsements. Only golfer Tiger Woods, at $80.3 million, topped him on the list of highest paid athletes.

W0000T! I never knew he lived in my home country!!! That must be a typo.
:Q

I would guess he lives in Monaco like everyone else just because of taxes.

I thought he gets a tax break in Sweden too?

He wanted to build some sort of airstrip behind his estate there... his neighbors surprisingly said no. :D
 
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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ok the average yearly budget for an F-1 team is $300 million. Most of which goes into R&D.

Whoever said that Michael Schumacher gets $80 million a year I'd like to see an article or something, because I really doubt that. I'm not saying your wrong, because it could be very possible, but i'm kinda skeptical.

I loathe NASCAR. I find it revolting that they'd waste fuel on it. If you're gonna go in circles, do it with something cool (IRL or CART for instance). Also, don't bother with the "stock" car B.S. They are about as stock as a funny car (drag racing).

I remember reading an article where some guy criticized the editors of a magazine for making fun of NASCAR and pretty much only having coverage of Rally cars and F-1. He tried to say that the reason people relate to NASCAR is that they could build something similar. I don't know how he could say this when it would be easier to make a go-kart, which would be more similar to an F-1 car than any car he could build to resemble a NASCAR (in more than appearance).

The only reason that NASCAR is more popular is that there are more wrecks. Having 40+ cars fender to fender will obviously create more wrecks.

I love F-1, but realize it is kinda boring, especially when a team and a driver (Ferrari, Schuey) are dominating so much. At the very least people should be watching the IRL over NASCAR.

Just my 2 cents.


http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/8966150.htm
Schumacher was born in Germany and lives in Sweden. Last year he made, according to Forbes Magazine, $80 million in salary, bonuses, prize money and endorsements. Only golfer Tiger Woods, at $80.3 million, topped him on the list of highest paid athletes.

W0000T! I never knew he lived in my home country!!! That must be a typo.
:Q

I would guess he lives in Monaco like everyone else just because of taxes.

I thought he gets a tax break in Sweden too?

He wanted to build some sort of airstrip behind his estate there... his neighbors surprisingly said no. :D

Do you have a link? I'd love to see if this is true.
 

EMPshockwave82

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NASCAR started back from the moonshiners and bootleggers of the earlier US (early 1900's) -- the theory behind NASCAR is that every car is built pretty much the same with minor adjustments (watch Days of Thunder) hahaha

i could be mistaken about that fact though


F-1 has faster cars and in my opinion cooler cars but each car is built a little different...
 
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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ok the average yearly budget for an F-1 team is $300 million. Most of which goes into R&D.

Whoever said that Michael Schumacher gets $80 million a year I'd like to see an article or something, because I really doubt that. I'm not saying your wrong, because it could be very possible, but i'm kinda skeptical.

I loathe NASCAR. I find it revolting that they'd waste fuel on it. If you're gonna go in circles, do it with something cool (IRL or CART for instance). Also, don't bother with the "stock" car B.S. They are about as stock as a funny car (drag racing).

I remember reading an article where some guy criticized the editors of a magazine for making fun of NASCAR and pretty much only having coverage of Rally cars and F-1. He tried to say that the reason people relate to NASCAR is that they could build something similar. I don't know how he could say this when it would be easier to make a go-kart, which would be more similar to an F-1 car than any car he could build to resemble a NASCAR (in more than appearance).

The only reason that NASCAR is more popular is that there are more wrecks. Having 40+ cars fender to fender will obviously create more wrecks.

I love F-1, but realize it is kinda boring, especially when a team and a driver (Ferrari, Schuey) are dominating so much. At the very least people should be watching the IRL over NASCAR.

Just my 2 cents.


http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/8966150.htm
Schumacher was born in Germany and lives in Sweden. Last year he made, according to Forbes Magazine, $80 million in salary, bonuses, prize money and endorsements. Only golfer Tiger Woods, at $80.3 million, topped him on the list of highest paid athletes.

W0000T! I never knew he lived in my home country!!! That must be a typo.
:Q

I would guess he lives in Monaco like everyone else just because of taxes.

I thought he gets a tax break in Sweden too?

He wanted to build some sort of airstrip behind his estate there... his neighbors surprisingly said no. :D

Do you have a link? I'd love to see if this is true.

He lives in Switzerland. I knew something was wrong.
 

glen

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I get the impression that in F-1 if the car is a Ferrari, it is mostly built by Ferrari.
In NASCAR, if the car is a Ford, is there a single bolt on it made by Ford?
 

aylanl4

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True NASCAR fans [edit: not all of them are actually NASCAR fans..]


I like NASCAR, here in the states, specailly in the southern states that have a NASCAR track near them, you have tons of fans, the drivers are often from around here (here being relative, since I'm in Texas). It's a bunch of "country bumpkins" driving at excessive speeds.

Though, I started watching it for the wrecks, but they have been less spectaular in the past few years cause of all the stuff they have put on them so that they do not flip over and the softwalls.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: glen
I get the impression that in F-1 if the car is a Ferrari, it is mostly built by Ferrari.
In NASCAR, if the car is a Ford, is there a single bolt on it made by Ford?



Well for a Ford car the Engine, body and diff are all ford. The tranny for most if not all is a richmond (or richmond style) 4 speed, something that a lot of street people run.
The Chevys are kinda the same but they also run the same 9inch Ford Diff.

So there are a lot of things in Nascar that you could walk into a Ford or GM dealer and buy if you want.
 

Chaotic42

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I'd like to see some super-offroad racing. Like huge hills and puddles with sharp turns and whatnot. I don't know if they have those kinds of races or not.

Driving in a circle seems stupid to me.
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: glen
I get the impression that in F-1 if the car is a Ferrari, it is mostly built by Ferrari.
In NASCAR, if the car is a Ford, is there a single bolt on it made by Ford?



Well for a Ford car the Engine, body and diff are all ford. The tranny for most if not all is a richmond (or richmond style) 4 speed, something that a lot of street people run.
The Chevys are kinda the same but they also run the same 9inch Ford Diff.

So there are a lot of things in Nascar that you could walk into a Ford or GM dealer and buy if you want.

I don't think there's a single part you buy in a dealership that you would find in a Nextel Cup car.

The only thing they have in common with a "stock" car is the general shape - and if you were to see a Ford and a Chevy Cup car next to each other without any paint on them you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. They also have the same chassis underneath.

The only thing Chevy and Ford (or Dodge) about them is the basic dimensions of the engine block.