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bluemax

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Only $130-140 for an AMD Dual-core CPU at 35W? It'd either overclock very well, or run stock without a fan! And cheap!! Where's the buzz?
 

o1die

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If you find one for sale, let me know where. I'm still undecided about my next cpu. Waiting for prices to hit rock bottom.
 

DaveSimmons

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I was excited about a 35watt X2 3800+ at $300, but you couldn't actually buy one of those either.

AMD only seems to have made enough to finally send out a few as review samples in time for the July Core 2 articles.

35watt X2's are paper-launch vapor at this point.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Only $130-140 for an AMD Dual-core CPU at 35W? It'd either overclock very well, or run stock without a fan! And cheap!! Where's the buzz?

um, link to store please? From what I can tell the 3800+ are more like $160-170 and NOT the 35W version...
 

imported_inspire

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: bluemax
Only $130-140 for an AMD Dual-core CPU at 35W? It'd either overclock very well, or run stock without a fan! And cheap!! Where's the buzz?

um, link to store please? From what I can tell the 3800+ are more like $160-170 and NOT the 35W version...

Exactly. Find it for us, Ponce de Leon.
 

coldpower27

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When and if this processor actually damn shows up in retail and we can buy it, then we will get plenty excited about it.
 

Kwint Sommer

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It may be cheap but the mobo, RAM, PSU and Video Card that go with it aren't. I'd rather spend an extra $60 (the difference between it's current price and the E6300) and get significantly better performance from my system. Who wouldn't pay $60 more to get 30+ percent more out of their system.
 

Marmion

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Wow, I wish the 35W 3800+ X2 was only ~NZ$280 ($140US). Instead, its a whopping NZ$700 which is around US$350 :disgust:
So yea, I'd much prefer a Core Duo E6300 or 6400 at around half the 35W X2 cost :D
 

Furen

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Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
It may be cheap but the mobo, RAM, PSU and Video Card that go with it aren't. I'd rather spend an extra $60 (the difference between it's current price and the E6300) and get significantly better performance from my system. Who wouldn't pay $60 more to get 30+ percent more out of their system.

More like $100 for the "+30%" better performance, since motherboards are a bit on the expensive side (I consider $140 expensive for a mobo, by the way). Still it could be worth it but if building a $500 system that extra $100 is 20% of the cost and could be used to buy a better video card or more ram.
 

Xcobra

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Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
It may be cheap but the mobo, RAM, PSU and Video Card that go with it aren't. I'd rather spend an extra $60 (the difference between it's current price and the E6300) and get significantly better performance from my system. Who wouldn't pay $60 more to get 30+ percent more out of their system.

yeah since everyone has a Conroe-ready system... :disgust:
 

Regs

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Who cares about over clocking old tech after 2.2 GHz? It's like putting high test in a pinto.

You're not going to get much out of it.
 

imported_wicka

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Originally posted by: inspire
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: bluemax
Only $130-140 for an AMD Dual-core CPU at 35W? It'd either overclock very well, or run stock without a fan! And cheap!! Where's the buzz?

um, link to store please? From what I can tell the 3800+ are more like $160-170 and NOT the 35W version...

Exactly. Find it for us, Ponce de Leon.

That was clever. I applaud you.

I keep seeing charts with the AMD price cuts, and they always mention the energy-efficient models, and I say to myself "Hey, cool" but then they don't exist.
 

DaveSimmons

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My guess is they inroduced this (still imaginary) X2 3500+ because they are having almost no success at finding 3800+'s that will run at 35 watts. So they hope by undervolting and underclocking that they can make more than the few review samples they've managed with the 3800+ so far.

I'm disappointed in AMD this year, they're stumbling as badly as ATI was doing last year with its own series of paper launches and vapor parts that never appeared. Maybe ATI can show AMD how they fixed things :)

I'd already own a 35 watt X2 3800+ by now, possibly 2-3 (desktop plus servers) if AMD could actually make them. :| :(
 

dexvx

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I dont see wtf the fuss is about.

35W X2-3800 is about 10W better than the E6300.
 

Kwint Sommer

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Originally posted by: Regs
Who cares about over clocking old tech after 2.2 GHz? It's like putting high test in a pinto.

You're not going to get much out of it.


I'm upgrading to Conroe but I've been using an old Socket 478 3.2 GHz Prescott overclocked to 4.3 GHz and it may only have one core but at those speeds with hyper threading it handled just about anything. With an X850 XT PE AGP and 1GB of RAM it handled any game I played nicely. It managed to run Oblivion at 1280 with everything on and modest AA and never dipped below 30 FPS.


Furthermore, what is the obsession with low energy CPUs? Is electricity really expensive in some parts because my computer cost me under $10 a month to run and it's a power hog? I know it makes them easier to cool but you can get a heatsink that will handle anything for around $30 and lets be honest, most overclockers have water cooling or more.
I just don't get it, is the $1 a month it will save you really worth buying an "energy efficient" CPU?
 

Furen

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Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer

I'm upgrading to Conroe but I've been using an old Socket 478 3.2 GHz Prescott overclocked to 4.3 GHz and it may only have one core but at those speeds with hyper threading it handled just about anything. With an X850 XT PE AGP and 1GB of RAM it handled any game I played nicely. It managed to run Oblivion at 1280 with everything on and modest AA and never dipped below 30 FPS.


Furthermore, what is the obsession with low energy CPUs? Is electricity really expensive in some parts because my computer cost me under $10 a month to run and it's a power hog? I know it makes them easier to cool but you can get a heatsink that will handle anything for around $30 and lets be honest, most overclockers have water cooling or more.
I just don't get it, is the $1 a month it will save you really worth buying an "energy efficient" CPU?

Why, we're all supposed to conserve electricity so we can keep global warming in check and keep polar bears from suddenly finding themselves without a home. On a more serious note, I, personally, like to keep my fans running as slow as possible (passive if possible) so lower TDP parts are always nice. Right now one of my systems is running on a single fan at 5v on the PSU. If the CPU was a Netburst, for example, I would never be able to get to it. That said, I would never buy a 32W X2, I'd just undervolt a regular one, since more often than not you'll be able to do 2GHz at 1-1.1v. Most other people, on the other hand, are looking forward to the 32W parts because they MAY overclock better. I'd be tempted to say I doubt it but I'll wait 'till I get my hands on one of them to do so.
 

dug777

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I'd be prepared to bet that these things will not be the holy ocing grail people hope.

Turions are low voltage, and they suck ass at overclocking...
 

Geomagick

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Only $130-140 for an AMD Dual-core CPU at 35W? It'd either overclock very well, or run stock without a fan! And cheap!! Where's the buzz?

Links are needed. You state in the header of the post that the chip is a 3500+ X2 which as I recall is not on AMDs roadmap.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: George Powell
Originally posted by: bluemax
Only $130-140 for an AMD Dual-core CPU at 35W? It'd either overclock very well, or run stock without a fan! And cheap!! Where's the buzz?

Links are needed. You state in the header of the post that the chip is a 3500+ X2 which as I recall is not on AMDs roadmap.

There is an X2 3600 though, I think thats what he was refering to.
 

nycdude

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Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
It may be cheap but the mobo, RAM, PSU and Video Card that go with it aren't. I'd rather spend an extra $60 (the difference between it's current price and the E6300) and get significantly better performance from my system. Who wouldn't pay $60 more to get 30+ percent more out of their system.

yeah since everyone has a Conroe-ready system... :disgust:


LMAO
 

misanthropy

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All I have to say is this: If you are going to argue from a price/performance stand point in favor of the X2 3800, you better not be spending the extra money you saved on things like crossfire/SLI. Also, you better not have an X2 4800+ on your profile....