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Why isn't MJ legalized already?

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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There's seriously dozens upon dozens of MJ legalization topics in search...
 

Farang

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Changing the laws isn't really a priority for anyone outside of a small minority, while opposition to changing the laws remains strong with the plurality being people who consider themselves 'tough on crime,' 'anti-drug,' etc. They will eventually change, attitudes have been consistently shifting away from criminalization for decades, but it'll still be a while. Europe is starting to turn and when it goes all out for decriminalization in more areas we will probably feel more pressure.

Spain, Netherlands, Switzerland.. countries where it is all but legal. I'm sure there are more I'm not an expert.
 

BrokenVisage

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Let's see... can't tax it effectively, too easy for people to grow and use themselves, industrial hemp would hurt big businesses... there's more but the main reason will always be $$$.
 

Farang

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Another source of pressure will be the medical marijuana movement, which has been more successful politically and has a good chance of changing federal law if the right people are in office. Obama, for example, might not take the initiative but if the bill were on his desk he'd sign it. A strong Democratic majority might make that happen (not endorsing anyone just making an observation).
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Farang
Another source of pressure will be the medical marijuana movement, which has been more successful politically and has a good chance of changing federal law if the right people are in office. Obama, for example, might not take the initiative but if the bill were on his desk he'd sign it. A strong Democratic majority might make that happen (not endorsing anyone just making an observation).

It's actually the sole reason I switched to Dem ^_^
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Let's see... can't tax it effectively, too easy for people to grow and use themselves, industrial hemp would hurt big businesses... there's more but the main reason will always be $$$.

The laws of economics would fix this pretty quickly. As soon as there are big growers the cost of marijuana would not be worth the hassle of growing it yourself. Once that happens they could easily tax it.

I'm not sure if weed is any easier than tobacco to grow, although I doubt that it is. The only reason why it's grown (weed) by semi-ordinary people is because it's illegal.

I bet it wouldn't take much longer then 10 years for the gov. to see significant revenue from taxes on MJ after it is turned legal.

 

soonerproud

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Jun 30, 2007
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Originally posted by: Ns1
It's actually the sole reason I switched to Dem ^_^

You better consider switching to Libertarians then. Legalization of Marijuana is part of the party platform.
 

Modelworks

Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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One reason is the nightmare it would cause for the legal system.
Imagine all the people that would want a new trial that were in prison for MJ.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: Ns1
It's actually the sole reason I switched to Dem ^_^

You better consider switching to Libertarians then. Legalization of Marijuana is part of the party platform.

I like to pick parties with a chance of winning
 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Farang
Another source of pressure will be the medical marijuana movement, which has been more successful politically and has a good chance of changing federal law if the right people are in office. Obama, for example, might not take the initiative but if the bill were on his desk he'd sign it. A strong Democratic majority might make that happen (not endorsing anyone just making an observation).

It's actually the sole reason I switched to Dem ^_^

lol you switched to Dems because you think they would vote for legalizing weed?
 

Farang

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Jul 7, 2003
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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Let's see... can't tax it effectively, too easy for people to grow and use themselves, industrial hemp would hurt big businesses... there's more but the main reason will always be $$$.

The laws of economics would fix this pretty quickly. As soon as there are big growers the cost of marijuana would not be worth the hassle of growing it yourself. Once that happens they could easily tax it.

I'm not sure if weed is any easier than tobacco to grow, although I doubt that it is. The only reason why it's grown (weed) by semi-ordinary people is because it's illegal.

I bet it wouldn't take much longer then 10 years for the gov. to see significant revenue from taxes on MJ after it is turned legal.

It is the same as anything, really.. there is a ton of stuff you can make yourself but don't because someone else will produce it more efficiently and of a better quality. Beer, for example. If marijuana were legalized you'd get some talented growers producing some excellent weed, probably for cheaper than it would be for you to produce it if you factor in the cost of your time.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Farang
Another source of pressure will be the medical marijuana movement, which has been more successful politically and has a good chance of changing federal law if the right people are in office. Obama, for example, might not take the initiative but if the bill were on his desk he'd sign it. A strong Democratic majority might make that happen (not endorsing anyone just making an observation).

It's actually the sole reason I switched to Dem ^_^

lol you switched to Dems because you think they would vote for legalizing weed?

Not necessarily. They're more open minded re: MMJ vs the hardline rhetoric that Republicans spew out
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Let's see... can't tax it effectively, too easy for people to grow and use themselves, industrial hemp would hurt big businesses... there's more but the main reason will always be $$$.

The laws of economics would fix this pretty quickly. As soon as there are big growers the cost of marijuana would not be worth the hassle of growing it yourself. Once that happens they could easily tax it.

I'm not sure if weed is any easier than tobacco to grow, although I doubt that it is. The only reason why it's grown (weed) by semi-ordinary people is because it's illegal.

I bet it wouldn't take much longer then 10 years for the gov. to see significant revenue from taxes on MJ after it is turned legal.

It is the same as anything, really.. there is a ton of stuff you can make yourself but don't because someone else will produce it more efficiently and of a better quality. Beer, for example. If marijuana were legalized you'd get some talented growers producing some excellent weed, probably for cheaper than it would be for you to produce it if you factor in the cost of your time.

I was replying for the sole reason of showing him his points were not very valid.

 

soonerproud

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Jun 30, 2007
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: Ns1
It's actually the sole reason I switched to Dem ^_^

You better consider switching to Libertarians then. Legalization of Marijuana is part of the party platform.

I like to pick parties with a chance of winning

They would have a chance of winning if more people switched instead of using the excuse of staying in a party with a chance of winning.

The Republican Party was a third party in the 1860 election so it is not like a third party has not become mainstream before.
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
One reason is the nightmare it would cause for the legal system.
Imagine all the people that would want a new trial that were in prison for MJ.

Let them all go free.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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The police, DEA, courts and jails employ a lot of people.
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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b/c we haven't elected JB and KG as Kings of City Hall. or maybe kick ass dukes.