Why isn't a number divided by zero, zero?

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Malak

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1/0 = 1, 0*1 = 0

Divide a number by nothing, means the number isn't divided. It is whole. Multiple a number by nothing means there are no groups of that number, thus no number.

Whoever taught you guys math is silly.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Malak
1/0 = 1, 0*1 = 0

Divide a number by nothing, means the number isn't divided. It is whole. Multiple a number by nothing means there are no groups of that number, thus no number.

Whoever taught you guys math is silly.
Uhh, no. Put 1/0 into windows calculator, or any other calculator.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: Malak
1/0 = 1, 0*1 = 0

Divide a number by nothing, means the number isn't divided. It is whole. Multiple a number by nothing means there are no groups of that number, thus no number.

Whoever taught you guys math is silly.
Uhh, no. Put 1/0 into windows calculator, or any other calculator.

Just because they didn't program the calculator using logic doesn't mean it doesn't work. THINK, stop using those evil machines to think for you!
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: Malak
1/0 = 1, 0*1 = 0

Divide a number by nothing, means the number isn't divided. It is whole. Multiple a number by nothing means there are no groups of that number, thus no number.

Whoever taught you guys math is silly.
Uhh, no. Put 1/0 into windows calculator, or any other calculator.

Just because they didn't program the calculator using logic doesn't mean it doesn't work. THINK, stop using those evil machines to think for you!
Are you trying to be funny? It's not working.

x/0 = y. 0y = x. x does not equal y.

 

Malak

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Are you trying to be funny? It's not working.

x/0 = y. 0y = x. x does not equal y.

You are still using your silly math rules, not logic. Read what I posted, it makes sense.
 

Beller0ph1

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Or you can think about it this way...
Division:

1/2 = 0.5
1/4 = 0.25

Now take the inverses of those:
1/(1/2) = 2
1/(1/4) = 4

Therefore, as your denominator gets smaller (goes to 0), the result becomes infinity. And infinity is not defined, since it is not a definate number.
 
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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Are you trying to be funny? It's not working.

x/0 = y. 0y = x. x does not equal y.

You are still using your silly math rules, not logic. Read what I posted, it makes sense.
Ummm...what you posted made no sense.

x/0=x/1
therefore x*0=x*1?
 

MrChad

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Look at a graph of f(x) = 1/x.

lim (x+ -> 0) (1/x) = +∞
lim (x- -> 0) (1/x) = -∞

Therefore 1/0 is indeterminate.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: Malak


You are still using your silly math rules, not logic. Read what I posted, it makes sense.
Ummm...what you posted made no sense.

x/0=x/1
therefore x*0=x*1?

Divide N by x, you get equal parts of N based on x. If x is 0, you have no divisions, thus whole number. You started with the whole number, it can't disappear if you don't subtract can it? The end result tends to be the unit measurement for a single part, but if you don't divide the number, then there is only one whole part isn't there? Thus you still have the whole number.

However, if you take the whole number and say there are 0 parts, as in N * 0, then you are left with 0. If there aren't any parts, then you are left with nothing.

0 parts = nothing. 0 divisions = N

Your math rules also say you can't multiply the same number against itself and get a negative result, but it says you can take the square root of a negative. Does that make sense to you too?
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Are you trying to be funny? It's not working.

x/0 = y. 0y = x. x does not equal y.

You are still using your silly math rules, not logic. Read what I posted, it makes sense.

Okay, by your "logic" you seem to be reading "x/y" as "x divided y times". Thus your 1/0 = 1 idea. "1 divided 0 times equals 1!" Therefore, 2/1 would imply "2 divided 1 time" which would be 1, because I divided it one time! 2/1 = 1.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: Malak


You are still using your silly math rules, not logic. Read what I posted, it makes sense.
Ummm...what you posted made no sense.

x/0=x/1
therefore x*0=x*1?

Divide N by x, you get equal parts of N based on x. If x is 0, you have no divisions, thus whole number. You started with the whole number, it can't disappear if you don't subtract can it? The end result tends to be the unit measurement for a single part, but if you don't divide the number, then there is only one whole part isn't there? Thus you still have the whole number.

However, if you take the whole number and say there are 0 parts, as in N * 0, then you are left with 0. If there aren't any parts, then you are left with nothing.

0 parts = nothing. 0 divisions = N

Your math rules also say you can't multiply the same number against itself and get a negative result, but it says you can take the square root of a negative. Does that make sense to you too?
Turn "x/y" into english wording without using any derivative of the word divide or any synonym.

 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: Malak


You are still using your silly math rules, not logic. Read what I posted, it makes sense.
Ummm...what you posted made no sense.

x/0=x/1
therefore x*0=x*1?

Divide N by x, you get equal parts of N based on x. If x is 0, you have no divisions, thus whole number. You started with the whole number, it can't disappear if you don't subtract can it? The end result tends to be the unit measurement for a single part, but if you don't divide the number, then there is only one whole part isn't there? Thus you still have the whole number.

However, if you take the whole number and say there are 0 parts, as in N * 0, then you are left with 0. If there aren't any parts, then you are left with nothing.

0 parts = nothing. 0 divisions = N

Your math rules also say you can't multiply the same number against itself and get a negative result, but it says you can take the square root of a negative. Does that make sense to you too?
According to the bold part, then "1 division" makes no sense when saying x/1, because you don't truly have one division, you didn't divide anything.
 
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Your math rules also say you can't multiply the same number against itself and get a negative result, but it says you can take the square root of a negative. Does that make sense to you too?
Yes because the square root of a negative real number is not a real number.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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It should be that a number divided by 0 should equal 0 instead of undefined.

If you take a 6 pieces of pie and want to give it to 1 person, that person will get all six peices. If you want to take 6 pieces of pie and give it to 3 people, each will get 2 peices.

If you have 6 peices of pie and don't have anyone to give it too, no one will get any peices of pie, ie 0.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
It should be that a number divided by 0 should equal 0 instead of undefined.

If you take a 6 pieces of pie and want to give it to 1 person, that person will get all six peices. If you want to take 6 pieces of pie and give it to 3 people, each will get 2 peices.

If you have 6 peices of pie and don't have anyone to give it too, no one will get any peices of pie, ie 0.
You're forced to give it to the divisor number of people, that's the nature of math, and why some people love math so much - it's strict. So if it's 1, you're forced to give the whole pie (6 pieces) to that one. Now try 0.

I don't see why you can't just realize that it's dividend divided INTO divisor number of parts. x/0 is x divided into 0 parts, which makes no mathematical or logical sense, and therefore is undefined. x/1 is x divided into 1 part, thus x. Make sense yet? If not, you're beyond help and I suggest you consider my signature thoroughly and to fruition.
 

sao123

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Problem:
Y is undefined for Y = X / 0 for all X in R....

Solution:
Define Y = 42 when Y = X / 0 for all X in R.

8/0 = 42
1/0 = 42
0/0 = 42
-1/0 = 42
-8/0 = 42


I am a genius.
I smell a nobel peace prize forth coming.