why is virginity so important to some guys?

[VTBigBear]

Eh. Just have her tell him that she wants to tap some virgin arse too. Have her bust out the toys and tell him to spred 'em.



LOL

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: VTBigBear
Eh. Just have her tell him that she wants to tap some virgin arse too. Have her bust out the toys and tell him to spred 'em.



LOL

lol

just tell her to stop whoring herself and all will be fine

 

[JupiterJones]

Originally posted by: freesia39
no really tell me.

my friend has a boyfriend and he can't take the fact that she's not a virgin. he had this dream that he would only sleep with a virgin and is disappointed at times that she isn't a virgin. so he asks to do other things to compensate because he can't obviously go out and FIND a virgin to sleep with, mainly, um, to go from behind.

You friend would do well to dump this idiot now.

 

[Spamela]

why hasn't somebody suggested the obvious: she should tell him she's saving THAT for marriage.

 

[pulse8]

It sounds like your friend is using her lack of virginity as a dumb excuse to try anal sex.

 

[KEV1N]

Originally posted by: pulse8
It sounds like your friend is using her lack of virginity as a dumb excuse to try anal sex.

Ding ding ding!

 

[Lola]

I ma sorry, but .... WHAT AN A$$. (no pun intended! )
IF i was her, i would grow some balls and say "if you can use my 'back door', i want to use yours":disgust:

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: freebee
After reading every post.....I am struck by how similar it is to my own thinking. I'm a carbon copy of that guy...except my girl's gotten it in the umm...backdoor before....i guess i can try the ears or something...but I don't think its going to fit.

I think about her ex's all the time...and all the things they've done to "my" baby....and its a difficult thing to think about. Its not so much the competition aspect that everyone brings up.....very hard to describe.

You need help... Obsessing like you are doing isn't good for you...

 

[SnapIT]

It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....

A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...

 

[Spagina]

Uptight bitter overweight religious zealot who is harsh on the eyes

I have seens some extremely HOT religious zealots. Granted, I wouldn't get near them or talk with them considering they had to mention the bible every 2 words, but they were extremely easy on the eyes.

 

[ILikeStuff]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....

A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...

Not so, my friend just recently called me a whore. I disagreed, whores get paid for their services

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....

A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...

It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.

Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.

Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.

 

[ILikeStuff]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end.

judicious: Having or exhibiting sound judgment; prudent.

I don't think judiciously is the word you were looking for... how about manipulatively?

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: HermitGuy

Originally posted by:Geekbabe
She should drop him... and be sure to alert family and friends so they can keep an eye on her,this type can and does often get nasty and tries to force the issue when you tell em to hit the road.. shudder

AMEN TO THAT!!



And now for my two cent's worth, even though I know it's going to get me in trouble. If it were me I'd be wondering if this guy swings both ways and I'd be out of there in a flash, too many diseases you can catch from that, including the big A.

I would hang a sign on my backside that says EXIT ONLY and head for the door.

I don't want to get in a lengthy discussion of this but I will say I was involved with somebody very similar,this isn't about sex or intimacy,it's about power and mind control.This dude is probably one of those very quiet,socially awkward types who was originally attracted to this girl because she is everything he's not..once he's tied up her attentions he's seeking to control and choke the very things about her that made her attractive to him in the first place.. because in so doing he thinks he'll make her unattractive to others as well.

thanks for that geekbabe. i think that hits a lot closer to the truth than a lot of other things, besides his fascination with virgins.

 

[shopbruin]

TallGeese -

Thanks for that analysis also. I'll talk to her later. It's just sad when you get phone calls of someone crying. I hope your wife is doing fine and the baby is ok.

i like how this thread has been relatively mature.

 

[NokiaDude]

Wait, if he put his d!ck in her ass, hes not a virgin right???

 

[TheShiz]

that is ridiculous, she should dump him. Anyway, my first girlfriend was a virgin, I can't really say what is so great about it, the only difference is they are inexperienced.

Tim

 

[ShotgunSteven]

why is virginity so important to some guys?

It is important to most of these guys because they still have it, and they hope that if they act like it it is valuable someone will want to take it from them. Call it the Tom Sawyer whitewash approach to losing your virginity.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....

A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...

It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.

Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.

Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.

First of all, sex can be a purely physical act at sometimes and an emotional act at other times, i know i work this way, if i have sex just for the night, it's just the physical act, but when i have sex with a woman i really love it becomes something more than just the physical act...

The problem as i see it is that many guys here (i haven't seen a woman here calling any other woman a whore yet) are so insecure about a girl who has had many men or who enjoys sex that they label her a whore or a slut... I call that lack of respect for women...

And i am glad i don't live in the same society that you are because the things you mention about yours sounds like it's some tribal african society...

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....

A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...

It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.

Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.

Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.

Exactly.

A girl quoted the line to me "Why buy the cow when the milk is free" when we were having a discussion.

I tried to get her to see that that whole phrase is about woman saying that they should withhold sex and other intimacies in order to get something in return from the guy like a commitment or marriage. The thing is, though, that most men want a happy commited relationship as much as girls. That whole viewpoint makes sex a power thing for women, and makes it instead of a shared mutually pleasurable experience into a payment/hostage thing.

 

[rickn]

there's a little medical procedure that can turn a woman into a virgin all over again, be careful guys

some guys say they don't want to put it where another guy has, but then those same guys will pick their ass and nose and eat a cookie.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....

A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...

It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.

Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.

Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.

Exactly.

A girl quoted the line to me "Why buy the cow when the milk is free" when we were having a discussion.

I tried to get her to see that that whole phrase is about woman saying that they should withhold sex and other intimacies in order to get something in return from the guy like a commitment or marriage. The thing is, though, that most men want a happy commited relationship as much as girls. That whole viewpoint makes sex a power thing for women, and makes it instead of a shared mutually pleasurable experience into a payment/hostage thing.

BS... if you want sex you are free to find a woman who will have sex before marriage, the same thing works the other way around... If you marry her just to have sex you are so stupid that you deserve being played...

oh, and there are plenty of women who don't care about marriage OR a relationship, they just want sex...

 

[linuxboy]

Nuts ! Nuts ! People are nuts. It's what I keep telling ya...


Hi Susan . *waves*


Oh and kudos to Tallgeese.

Cheers !

 

[saturnine]

having a virgin was never important to me. i wanted to meet someone and "try-before-you-buy". how can i expect that from a girl, if im out "trying"?

 

[anaxo]

Originally posted by: freebee
After reading every post.....I am struck by how similar it is to my own thinking. I'm a carbon copy of that guy...except my girl's gotten it in the umm...backdoor before....i guess i can try the ears or something...but I don't think its going to fit.

I think about her ex's all the time...and all the things they've done to "my" baby....and its a difficult thing to think about. Its not so much the competition aspect that everyone brings up.....very hard to describe.

Jeevus man, you have some insecurity problems that could really wreck your relationship. Ever seen Chasing Amy? Deals with that thing you're talking about, and that was one movie that definitely didn't end on a happy note. It doesn't matter who they went out before (unless it was your worse enemy or something), but that they're dating you and only you now.