Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....
A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...
It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.
Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.
Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.
First of all, sex can be a purely physical act at sometimes and an emotional act at other times, i know i work this way, if i have sex just for the night, it's just the physical act, but when i have sex with a woman i really love it becomes something more than just the physical act...
The problem as i see it is that many guys here (i haven't seen a woman here calling any other woman a whore yet) are so insecure about a girl who has had many men or who enjoys sex that they label her a whore or a slut... I call that lack of respect for women...
And i am glad i don't live in the same society that you are because the things you mention about yours sounds like it's some tribal african society...
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....
A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...
It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.
Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.
Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.
First of all, sex can be a purely physical act at sometimes and an emotional act at other times, i know i work this way, if i have sex just for the night, it's just the physical act, but when i have sex with a woman i really love it becomes something more than just the physical act...
The problem as i see it is that many guys here (i haven't seen a woman here calling any other woman a whore yet) are so insecure about a girl who has had many men or who enjoys sex that they label her a whore or a slut... I call that lack of respect for women...
And i am glad i don't live in the same society that you are because the things you mention about yours sounds like it's some tribal african society...
I don't buy what you're saying. You can't say "tonight sex means nothing" and then the next night say "tonight sex is significant." If you got married do you think your wife would buy that?
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SnapIT
It's real sad to see how many guys there are out there who lack respect for women....
A girl who enjoys sex is automatically a whore, a guy who does the same is a stud...
It has more to do with the objectification of sex. If you want to make it purely a physical act, then fine, women and men can enjoy protected guilt-free sex with whomever they please. If, however, you associate any kind of significance to sex beyond the act itself, then having many sexual partners isn't a sign of a man or woman who "enjoys sex" but of somebody who regards flippantly relationships and love and intimacy and all the things that have inspired poets and storytellers and artists for millenium. It has nothing to do with gender in my eyes.
Sex and gender in society is a whole other story. Men don't look down on women for being promiscuous. They may make derrogatory comments, but it is only because they've been with her and she, not surprisingly, continued her ways or because they know they still don't have a shot. Women are the ones who venomously loose the label "whore" on a woman. Personally, I have far more respect for a promiscuous woman than one who uses sex, as many do, as a tool or weapon. The fact is that women in our society have been raised to utilize sex judiciously as a means to an end. A woman who breaks from that mold is a renegade amidst her own gender and threatens to throw off-balance the payment system women seek to establish by not forcing men to "earn" their reward. Men, on the other hand, in our society have been raised to view sex as a sign of power or worth and are willing to play whatever games are required to "earn" it.
Of course, it's a pleasure thing as well, but there are many other pleasurable things to do in life and the pleasure of sex can wait and will always be the same. The significance of sex is what is so different from person to person. The bottom line is that it is what you choose to make it.
First of all, sex can be a purely physical act at sometimes and an emotional act at other times, i know i work this way, if i have sex just for the night, it's just the physical act, but when i have sex with a woman i really love it becomes something more than just the physical act...
The problem as i see it is that many guys here (i haven't seen a woman here calling any other woman a whore yet) are so insecure about a girl who has had many men or who enjoys sex that they label her a whore or a slut... I call that lack of respect for women...
And i am glad i don't live in the same society that you are because the things you mention about yours sounds like it's some tribal african society...
I don't buy what you're saying. You can't say "tonight sex means nothing" and then the next night say "tonight sex is significant." If you got married do you think your wife would buy that?
Originally posted by: freesia39
no really tell me.
she doesn't want to leave him. she believes he can grow up someday and that it'll all be behind them but at the moment it's not going away.
