why is the concept of a plain burger so hard to understand?

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
ok, i had this same problem years back, but finally US mcD solved it around 1999. Now that I'm in tokyo, I'm having the same problem again...

A plain cheesburger. Thats right, meat, cheese, bread, nothing else. No shit ketchup/mustard, old lettuce, etc. Just processed dog meat and rat cheese only please

Every time I order they spend a minute or two taking off the pickles, mustard, etc. on the computer. They also look at me like "wtf...who would eat a burger without all the extra shit on it?"

for the record, it isnt a language problem. my japanese in the case is perfect...

anywho, does anyone else order their burgers plain

So what's the problem? You order a plain cheeseburger, they put in an order for a plain cheeseburger, you get a plain cheeseburger. At what point in the order of these events are you being disappointed?

the problem is they have to spend extra time putting it into the computer, why isn't there a fucking button like in the US? The other problem is they look at me like they can't believe it. Why is it so hard to believe people dont like the other shit?

clearly stated...

Is working at a MCDonalds as degrading to Japanese as it is to Americans?

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: BTA
You're an idiot for wanting a plain burger at a fast food place. Simple as that.

If you want to be a weird no-sauce eater then make your own burgers at home.

In fact anyone with odd demands when ordering at restaurants is a moron.

Sauce adds a lot of useless calories, and at fast food restaurants tastes like shit anyway.

Fast food places regularly advertise they will make it your way. So then they should develop a better ordering system and training for their employees. Really, it shouldn't be hard to get custom orders right.

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Originally posted by: BTA
You're an idiot for wanting a plain burger at a fast food place. Simple as that.

If you want to be a weird no-sauce eater then make your own burgers at home.

In fact anyone with odd demands when ordering at restaurants is a moron.

Sauce adds a lot of useless calories, and at fast food restaurants tastes like shit anyway.

Fast food places regularly advertise they will make it your way. So then they should develop a better ordering system and training for their employees. Really, it shouldn't be hard to get custom orders right.

Actually, Japanese McD never advertises that they'll make it your way. Thats mainly only the american branches

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: zerogear
Actually, Japanese McD never advertises that they'll make it your way. Thats mainly only the american branches

This isn't a sushi restaurant with sushi chefs, there's no prestige here, these are POS McDonalds burgers. Nobody should be upset when you don't want pickles on their quarter-pounder.

 

[Casawi]

I am hungry, but no thanks.

 

[PricklyPete]

cause it sounds disgusting.

 

[zerogear]

I always order Tsukimi Teriyaki chicken sandwich when I'm at a McD Japan . (Basically sunny-side up egg + teriyaki chicken on a bun)

 

[Paperdoc]

My son does this all the time - he strongly dislikes vegetables, mustard, ketchup.
Reminds me of the scene in "Easy Rider" when Jack Nicholson's character wants just plain bread and butter in a middle-of-nowhere restaurant. Waitress says they don't have that, and dialogue goes something like this:

OK, I'll have a chicken sandwich. You have that, don't you?

Yes. Chicken Sandwich.

And miss - hold the lettuce, hold the mayo, hold the salt & pepper and hold the chicken!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Paperdoc
My son does this all the time - he strongly dislikes vegetables, mustard, ketchup.
Reminds me of the scene in "Easy Rider" when Jack Nicholson's character wants just plain bread and butter in a middle-of-nowhere restaurant. Waitress says they don't have that, and dialogue goes something like this:

OK, I'll have a chicken sandwich. You have that, don't you?

Yes. Chicken Sandwich.

And miss - hold the lettuce, hold the mayo, hold the salt & pepper and hold the chicken!

Yeah, we had a diner in town that had a double burger for a while, then they took it off the menu... but still had the same burger patties, just served as a single burger. The first time I went after they took it off the menu, I ordered it as normal: "I'll take the double burger"
The waitress said "Oh, we don't have that any more".
I said, "Well, you still have the patties, can you make me a double burger?"
And she said, "Oh, yeah, we can do that"
It's still not on the menu these days, but now at the bottom of the menu with all the extras (bleu cheese, bacon, etc) there's an option listed for another burger patty.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: hiromizu
You are the odd one because in Japan, you're really not supposed to complain about what you are served. It's also rude to ask what's not on the menu unless it's a higher end restaurant.

i dont give a fuck. i'm white. i'm odd no matter what i do. people hand me forks spoons and start blabbering senseless english despite flawless (ok well maybe the accent needs work) japanese coming out of my mouth.

on top of that, we are talking mcD. its a fucking american company. I totally do not agree with this stance on japanese culture in any circumstance. i've had plenty of japanese friends request their meals be fixed due to store fuckup. This is in tokyo, chiba, and tochigi...maybe some of the more rural places are stricter to the old ways.

I bet you've got a white man accent

This is probably more the problem than anything. Here, they will ask, "Stay here or take away?" instead of "For here or to go?" I cannot tell you how friggin long it took me to understand what the hell they were asking. The accent, even from people that have lived in English speaking countries, can still cause problems with fluent speakers. I have a coworker that learned his English on the mainland and I think Hong Kong is the first time he has talked to native speakers. I have so much frustration with him because he pronounces the majority of the words incorrectly. His vocabulary and grammar are not bad, it's the accent that causes the problems.

Good show on the Black Ship reference. You should dress up as the Commodore for Halloween and impose gunboat diplomacy at every bar you hit.

 

[MrPickins]

For those complaining about special orders, keep in mind that my burger with no ketchup is most likely prepared fresh instead of being taken from under a heat lamp.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
For those complaining about special orders, keep in mind that my burger with no ketchup is most likely prepared fresh instead of being taken from under a heat lamp.

Maybe if this were the 1980s... now they make each one as it's ordered, and all the burger patties come from the same warming drawer

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: MrPickins
For those complaining about special orders, keep in mind that my burger with no ketchup is most likely prepared fresh instead of being taken from under a heat lamp.

Maybe if this were the 1980s... now they make each one as it's ordered, and all the burger patties come from the same warming drawer

yeap. now they premake the hamburgers adn leave them in a warming drawer. They aren't as good either and i don't see how they are any faster.


i worked in McDonalds in 91-92 and it was great. a burger right off the grill was yummy (still is. i can go in and since i know the manager he will amke it fresh hehe)

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew
if you want something that's not on the menu by default, then make it yourself. stop taking so much time ordering your own custom meals.

actually, there is a button on the McDs register for plain. it isnt that difficult, just a single button click. and i havent worked there for 20 years, so its not a new concept.

i dont order mine plain, i get them with extra cheese. usually this forces them to make a fresh burger.

 

[OogyWaWa]

i can see the argument from the accent, but i don't think it is the issue. Sure sometimes I mumble and I have to repeat myself or whatever, but as soon as they understand, they always, always are like "uhhh..really?" and confirm at least twice. And always with restructured phrases. first it is "meat and cheese only? "so..no sauce...no ketchup...no etc." "are you sure?"

ugh...i guess i'll just start eating more gyudon or something. although i get the same shit there. "yes i want two raw eggs instead of one. the portion size is double god dammit!" lol...

i need to find some more old grandpa teishoku places. They give you the stink eye when you come in, but they refuse the be lenient on your japanese and if you fuck it up it is your fault. But at least they don't google at you when you tell them what you want

although, i can understand it more at a regular japanese restaurant. they don't believe you know Japanese and must make sure your puny gaijin mind is comprehending what you are ordering. I always laugh when they ask me if i can read japanese after i JUST put down the fucking menu and ordered. "Why no, actually I guessed the meaning of this ancient fish kanji and I managed to blurt out something that sounded just like its name..." I :heart: Japan

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
i can see the argument from the accent, but i don't think it is the issue. Sure sometimes I mumble and I have to repeat myself or whatever, but as soon as they understand, they always, always are like "uhhh..really?" and confirm at least twice. And always with restructured phrases. first it is "meat and cheese only? "so..no sauce...no ketchup...no etc." "are you sure?"

ugh...i guess i'll just start eating more gyudon or something. although i get the same shit there. "yes i want two raw eggs instead of one. the portion size is double god dammit!" lol...

i need to find some more old grandpa teishoku places. They give you the stink eye when you come in, but they refuse the be lenient on your japanese and if you fuck it up it is your fault. But at least they don't google at you when you tell them what you want

although, i can understand it more at a regular japanese restaurant. they don't believe you know Japanese and must make sure your puny gaijin mind is comprehending what you are ordering. I always laugh when they ask me if i can read japanese after i JUST put down the fucking menu and ordered. "Why no, actually I guessed the meaning of this ancient fish kanji and I managed to blurt out something that sounded just like its name..." I :heart: Japan

Well, this is what you get for being white.

 

[thegimp03]

I use to like plain burgers when I was younger but grew out of it.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: hiromizu
You are the odd one because in Japan, you're really not supposed to complain about what you are served. It's also rude to ask what's not on the menu unless it's a higher end restaurant.

i dont give a fuck. i'm white. i'm odd no matter what i do. people hand me forks spoons and start blabbering senseless english despite flawless (ok well maybe the accent needs work) japanese coming out of my mouth.

on top of that, we are talking mcD. its a fucking american company. I totally do not agree with this stance on japanese culture in any circumstance. i've had plenty of japanese friends request their meals be fixed due to store fuckup. This is in tokyo, chiba, and tochigi...maybe some of the more rural places are stricter to the old ways.

can you give me the exact location of this place? i'd like to see it in google street view.

also, have you try MOS buger ? maybe they'll make it your way.

 

[TuxDave]

I insist on ketchup on my burgers. Lettuce and tomatoes are a plus but I need my ketchup!

 

[Matthiasa]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Matthiasa
Why not just order a plain hamburger if your taking off the cheese as well?

You're as bad as the people he's complaining about He wants cheese on the burger, nothing else.

Oh lol he wanted cheese missed that part since he said plain burger to many times and not plain cheese burger. That is totally different.

 

[Shadow Conception]

Next time, ask for a burger made out of CHEESE. Like you know, a cheeseburger. Ha...

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Raincity

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i've ordered a plain cheeseburger seven thousand times @ McD's without any problems.

And you?re still alive to tell the tale. That?s amazing after consuming 7000 cheeseburgers.

7,000 is nothing, unless he did it in 1 year or something. In my lifetime I've probably eaten 25,000 burgers, maybe more.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Originally posted by: thegimp03
I use to like plain burgers when I was younger but grew out of it.

You didn't grow out of it, you just developed a palate for good taste!

 

[Matthiasa]

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze

Originally posted by: thegimp03
I use to like plain burgers when I was younger but grew out of it.

You didn't grow out of it, you just developed a palate for good taste!

But he still eats at fast food places. :Q

 

[acheron]

your main problem is that you're eating at mcdonald's.

anyway, as far as US places go, Five Guys does it the right way, plain is default and you have to ask for whatever stuff you want on it.