why is the concept of a plain burger so hard to understand?

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
ok, i had this same problem years back, but finally US mcD solved it around 1999. Now that I'm in tokyo, I'm having the same problem again...

A plain cheesburger. Thats right, meat, cheese, bread, nothing else. No shit ketchup/mustard, old lettuce, etc. Just processed dog meat and rat cheese only please

Every time I order they spend a minute or two taking off the pickles, mustard, etc. on the computer. They also look at me like "wtf...who would eat a burger without all the extra shit on it?"

for the record, it isnt a language problem. my japanese in the case is perfect...

anywho, does anyone else order their burgers plain

So what's the problem? You order a plain cheeseburger, they put in an order for a plain cheeseburger, you get a plain cheeseburger. At what point in the order of these events are you being disappointed?

the problem is they have to spend extra time putting it into the computer, why isn't there a fucking button like in the US? The other problem is they look at me like they can't believe it. Why is it so hard to believe people dont like the other shit?

clearly stated...

Maybe they just can't figure out what is wrong with you. I'm having trouble myself and I at least make more than minimum wage.

EDIT: Wooo! Time warp. /dances.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: GeekDrew
if you want something that's not on the menu by default, then make it yourself. stop taking so much time ordering your own custom meals.

it should take less time to get a burger with less shit on it...

no, it shouldn't. it takes more time. rather than saying "cheeseburger" to the order-taker, you say something along the lines of "cheeseburger with only cheese, no ketchup, pickles, onion, etc". then someone that's actually making the sandwiches has to read the order and custom make a sandwich, rather than rely on memory to know what's on the sandwich, and/or just serve up the next "regular cheeseburger".

ordering something non-standard is *never* faster, even if you are removing components.

you missed my point. this is what i'm bitching about. they should make it standard like the US. push one button, there it is. It physically takes LESS time to make a plain cheeseburger than one with more crap on it. It simply doesn't take as much time.

This BS about memory burger making is fucking stupid. I've flipped burgers plenty of times, it isn't hard and takes about 1 extra second to remember not to load it up with other shit.

so the US cash registers have one button to remove all toppings from any given sandwich? i suppose that shouldn't surprise me.

and yes, it does physically take less time to make a plain cheeseburger than a regular cheeseburger -- that's not what i was saying. my point is that delivery of instruction (and the ability of the 'cook' to complete that special instruction) incurs additional time.

 

[OogyWaWa]

Originally posted by: hans007
i have to agree with the OP. when i am grillin ga burger, my burger is pretty plain. itll be cheese, meat, breat, maybe an onion slice.

I hate going to a burger place and accidentally ordering all the extra stuff. For example a popular chain in southern california "fat burger" one of the great things about the place is that you can "add" all these toppings on your burger like say an egg or bacon.

That said, shouldn't the default burger have nothing on it. Fuddruckers does this right for the most part. But at fatburger, if you dont say anything you get relish on your burger. like hot dog relish. I'm not someone who say gets angry if I accidentally get relish, but it is disappointing . It is sort of like buying nachos at taco bell, where they force you to specially ask for no beans, but every once in awhile they forget.


Then again, i'm sure these companies know MOST people want all this stuff. I mean I bought an acura, and i didnt want a sunroof. but it costs them less to just build every single car with one, so i had to have one.

i can agree with this. honestly, i like the taste of meat more than the other crap. but the biggest thing is fast food topping are sickening to me. sure, the burger isn't terribly great, but the other stuff just makes it worse.

it makes sense to have the std. burger tailored to the population....about 20 years ago. it would take a programmer no time to add in some buttons for pre-customized burger buttons (as has been done in the US!). pickles only, ketchup only, cheese only, etc. etc.
there is no excuse for a big chain like mcD to be doing this in some places and not others.

it really isn't too bad though. usually when they don't understand or fuck my order up, it gives me a chance to use more japanese (a lot of times beyond their level of english comprehension, so the give up, thank god). so, worst case i get some language practice in

 

[OogyWaWa]

Originally posted by: peritusONE

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
ok, i had this same problem years back, but finally US mcD solved it around 1999. Now that I'm in tokyo, I'm having the same problem again...

A plain cheesburger. Thats right, meat, cheese, bread, nothing else. No shit ketchup/mustard, old lettuce, etc. Just processed dog meat and rat cheese only please

Every time I order they spend a minute or two taking off the pickles, mustard, etc. on the computer. They also look at me like "wtf...who would eat a burger without all the extra shit on it?"

for the record, it isnt a language problem. my japanese in the case is perfect...

anywho, does anyone else order their burgers plain

So what's the problem? You order a plain cheeseburger, they put in an order for a plain cheeseburger, you get a plain cheeseburger. At what point in the order of these events are you being disappointed?

the problem is they have to spend extra time putting it into the computer, why isn't there a fucking button like in the US? The other problem is they look at me like they can't believe it. Why is it so hard to believe people dont like the other shit?

clearly stated...

The only thing that's clear to me is that you're complaining about something stupid. Cheeseburgers have a default configuration. If you don't want that default configuration, then you have to wait a "minute or two" (really 10-15 seconds) for them to punch it in the computer so the people making your food in the back know to leave it off.

I'm guessing if in a different world, you liked extra pickles, you'd come on here and bitch about how it takes a minute or two for them to put it in the computer. Or if all cheeseburgers came plain, then you still wouldn't be happy, because you had to keep waiting for the clerk to put in that these people wanted ketchup, mustard, and pickles on their cheeseburgers.

the time isn't a huge deal. the thing that bothers me is they don't fucking understand it. i have to say it like 4 times before they actually believe me. "yes god doammit, i want meat, bread, and cheese..." "wait... ONLY meat and cheese? @_@ WERE R U FRM!?!"

Also it is extremely annoying when they fuck it up and you actually do have to wait the extra 4-5mins. People don't pay good money (and it isn't cheap in tokyo) for fast food and skip off beloved patriot dory when their fast food is slow. It is their business model for Christ's sake. fast food. I don't want to stand around waiting for Perry's black ships to roll into town again before I get my damned burger...

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
ok, i had this same problem years back, but finally US mcD solved it around 1999. Now that I'm in tokyo, I'm having the same problem again...

A plain cheesburger. Thats right, meat, cheese, bread, nothing else. No shit ketchup/mustard, old lettuce, etc. Just processed dog meat and rat cheese only please

Every time I order they spend a minute or two taking off the pickles, mustard, etc. on the computer. They also look at me like "wtf...who would eat a burger without all the extra shit on it?"

for the record, it isnt a language problem. my japanese in the case is perfect...

anywho, does anyone else order their burgers plain

I like my burgers plain... with extra cheese, pickles, & mayo

 

[BTA]

You're an idiot for wanting a plain burger at a fast food place. Simple as that.

If you want to be a weird no-sauce eater then make your own burgers at home.

In fact anyone with odd demands when ordering at restaurants is a moron.

 

[oddyager]

Last time I checked, you have to specifically instruct the cashier you don't want the "default" stuff on the burger. When you order something from their menu, they are going to take it as is unless I am totally missing the point here heh.

 

[meltdown75]

i've ordered a plain cheeseburger seven thousand times @ McD's without any problems.

 

[OogyWaWa]

Originally posted by: BTA
You're an idiot for wanting a plain burger at a fast food place. Simple as that.

If you want to be a weird no-sauce eater then make your own burgers at home.

In fact anyone with odd demands when ordering at restaurants is a moron.

this is the stupidest shit i've ever heard. ok, yes, i'm going to pay good money so i can order whatever the chef feels like slopping down. the fucking point of a restaurant is to order shit your way so you don't have to do it yourself. hell, thats even the slogan of some companies "have it you way" "tailor made to your desires" , etc.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Colt45
Why would you want a plain burger is the real question.

My dog doesn't like pickles and can't have onions.

 

[Saulbadguy]

Stop eating like a 5 year old.

 

[TwiceOver]

Normally I would defend the FF industry, but my wife has the same problem. She has very specific burger tastes and usually gets "plain". I always have to check the bag before leaving. I would say 70% of the time the burger is not plain.

 

[alkemyst]

It's not so much that the order takers don't get it, it's just that they love pulling your chain.

see a bad ass like me comes up and wants a cheese burger with 1 pickle, half a piece of cheese and the ketchup put on in a smiley face; they make sure they get it right.

As a matter of fact once I order one once, I can be sure they'd always have one on standby each half hour for me in case I show up.

 

[Kirby]

Next time, jump on the counter, scream "pickles" and make a big X with your arms. Repeat as necessary for other items.

 

[Raincity]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i've ordered a plain cheeseburger seven thousand times @ McD's without any problems.

And you?re still alive to tell the tale. That?s amazing after consuming 7000 cheeseburgers.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Raincity

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i've ordered a plain cheeseburger seven thousand times @ McD's without any problems.

And you?re still alive to tell the tale. That?s amazing after consuming 7000 cheeseburgers.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/1055957/detail.html

Thats nothing

 

[Toonces]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Also it is extremely annoying when they fuck it up and you actually do have to wait the extra 4-5mins. People don't pay good money (and it isn't cheap in tokyo) for fast food and skip off beloved patriot dory when their fast food is slow. It is their business model for Christ's sake. fast food. I don't want to stand around waiting for Perry's black ships to roll into town again before I get my damned burger...

Never go to MOS

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: BTA
You're an idiot for wanting a plain burger at a fast food place. Simple as that.

If you want to be a weird no-sauce eater then make your own burgers at home.

In fact anyone with odd demands when ordering at restaurants is a moron.

Anyone that complains about how other people want to eat their food that they're paying for is an imbecilic cretin. If it annoys you so much, you stay home and make your own fucking burger.

 

[Alienwho]

I hate going to restaurants with one of my coworkers because he's the same way. It's always a big production to make sure he's satisfied. Not only do we have to spend an hour before we leave to make sure he's cool or in the mood for whatever it is we're grabbing that day, but then we go through the production at the restaurant to make sure he gets exactly what he wants. Sprite with no ice. If there is any ice in his sprite cup you are in for an ordeal. Then on his food there can be no condiments, no spice, no flavor. Plain with nothing on it. He doesn't have any allergies or anything, he's just a picky dumbass. Plain boring food with no personality for a plain boring person with no personality.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alienwho
I hate going to restaurants with one of my coworkers because he's the same way. It's always a big production to make sure he's satisfied. Not only do we have to spend an hour before we leave to make sure he's cool or in the mood for whatever it is we're grabbing that day, but then we go through the production at the restaurant to make sure he gets exactly what he wants. Sprite with no ice. If there is any ice in his sprite cup you are in for an ordeal. Then on his food there can be no condiments, no spice, no flavor. Plain with nothing on it. He doesn't have any allergies or anything, he's just a picky dumbass. Plain boring food with no personality for a plain boring person with no personality.

I have an asshat friend like that...thinks he is a chef because he can make lasagna. Even occasionally makes demands to be able to go into the kitchen and show them how to make something 'properly'.

He then takes it out on the staff when his demands aren't met by refusing his part of the tip.

Needless to say I sort of avoid any function where we are sharing tables with him.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: hiromizu
You are the odd one because in Japan, you're really not supposed to complain about what you are served. It's also rude to ask what's not on the menu unless it's a higher end restaurant.

i dont give a fuck. i'm white. i'm odd no matter what i do. people hand me forks spoons and start blabbering senseless english despite flawless (ok well maybe the accent needs work) japanese coming out of my mouth.

on top of that, we are talking mcD. its a fucking american company. I totally do not agree with this stance on japanese culture in any circumstance. i've had plenty of japanese friends request their meals be fixed due to store fuckup. This is in tokyo, chiba, and tochigi...maybe some of the more rural places are stricter to the old ways.

I bet you've got a white man accent

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Even occasionally makes demands to be able to go into the kitchen and show them how to make something 'properly'.

Ohhhhh my god, what a doucebottle.

 

[Sumguy]

I have a friend who hates condiments. Any condiments.

She eats spaghetti plain and bare nachos. I even think the cheese would be too much for her.

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: hiromizu
You are the odd one because in Japan, you're really not supposed to complain about what you are served. It's also rude to ask what's not on the menu unless it's a higher end restaurant.

This.

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: toonces

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Also it is extremely annoying when they fuck it up and you actually do have to wait the extra 4-5mins. People don't pay good money (and it isn't cheap in tokyo) for fast food and skip off beloved patriot dory when their fast food is slow. It is their business model for Christ's sake. fast food. I don't want to stand around waiting for Perry's black ships to roll into town again before I get my damned burger...

Never go to MOS

Really? I absolutely love MOS Burger.. though I can understand why gaijin wouldn't like it.