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why is the 787 so scary?

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mizzou

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i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
 
Mixolydian said:
I personally cannot think of anything more terrifying than dying in an aviation accident. Hence, I don't fly.
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Car accidents are pretty horrible. So is getting hit by a car as a pedestrian. Shark attacks can ruin your whole day. Lightning strikes can kill you. Storms can drown you. Vending machines are really dangerous when they fall on you. Bottom line is that going outdoors is scary. Then again if you stay indoors you might be attacked by bugs or get carbon monoxide poisoning. You might drown in the bathtub.
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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I've flown a dreamliner on a 6 hour flight. They're pretty nice. The in seat entertainment was awesome and I think I wasted a full 20 minutes just playing with the window.
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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use backup power?

I'm looking forwards to my 787 leg in December.
 
AViking said:
Car accidents are pretty horrible. So is getting hit by a car as a pedestrian. Shark attacks can ruin your whole day. Lightning strikes can kill you. Storms can drown you. Vending machines are really dangerous when they fall on you. Bottom line is that going outdoors is scary. Then again if you stay indoors you might be attacked by bugs or get carbon monoxide poisoning. You might drown in the bathtub.
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fawk.....
 
If you were to board one random flight per day it would take you an average of 30,000 years to board a flight that would be involved in a fatal accident*.


* based on U.S. Air travel statistics and does not factor in drunk Russian pilots crashing on takeoff.
 
Mixolydian said:
I personally cannot think of anything more terrifying than dying in an aviation accident. Hence, I don't fly.
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You'll likely never get to see many wonderful parts of the world without flying. Good luck taking boats around the world at huge price premiums and taking days instead of hours.
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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Burst into flames? I'd be a burnt corpse free falling from 40000 feet. I'd just lay still like a good corpse.
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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For the most part, humans lack a good risk analysis model. There are many things that you are much more likely to die from rather than a commercial aircraft accident.For example:


National Safety Council© Injury Facts© 2011

Lifetime Odds of death due to:
Heart disease: 1 in 6
Cancer: 1 in 7
Stroke: 1 in 28
Accidental poisoning by toxic substances: 1 in 130
Falls: 1 in 171
Car accident: 1 in 303
Assault by firearms: 1 in 306
Motorcycle accident: 1 in 770
Accidental drowning: 1 in 1,123
Exposure to smoke/fire: 1 in 1,177
Cycling: 1 in 4,717
Firearms discharge: 1 in 6,309
Air and space transport accidents: 1 in 7,032
Exposure to electric current, radiation, temperature or pressure: 1 in 9,943
Exposure to excessive natural heat: 1 in 12,517
Cataclysmic storm: 1 in 46,044
Contact with hornets, wasps and bees: 1 in 71,623
Lightning: 1 in 84,079
Bitten/attacked by dog: 1 in 120,864
Earthquake: 1 in 148,756
Flood: 1 in 175,803
Fireworks discharge: 1 in 386,766


On the other hand, as a human you have the right to be irrational. So should you want to be paranoid about 787's, I would support you.

Best of luck,
Uno
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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The "poorly made" batteries are now enclosed in a fire proof case vented to the outside. The airplane would simply land at the nearest airport and you would wait for a replacement aircraft while playing games on your phone or with yourself in the bathroom.

That's my theory anyway.
 
The name "Dreamliner" just sounds so tempting. I'm always afraid the pilots will end up falling asleep behind the wheel!

It has me looking up all the time because you never know where those things will crash.....WHEN they do!!!
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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That's because you don't know any better. Airplanes have such problems all the time, all day long, every day.

http://avherald.com/

Boeing will soon deliver 787 #100, and the 787-9 is coming along nicely. Boeing took a big leap with the 787, and that caused a lot of teething problems.

But, many airliners had rocky beginnings, and went on to be reliable work horses.
 
mizzou said:
i like a plane that is simple, robust, and proven.

787 seems like it keeps getting grounded for silly shit like poorly made batteries or computer software.


wtf would iu do if your 787 was over the atlantic and a battery burst into flames? D: fuck. that.
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Same thing you'd do in any other airliner with a fire on board.
 
LTC8K6 said:
That's because you don't know any better. Airplanes have such problems all the time, all day long, every day.

http://avherald.com/

Boeing will soon deliver 787 #100, and the 787-9 is coming along nicely. Boeing took a big leap with the 787, and that caused a lot of teething problems.

But, many airliners had rocky beginnings, and went on to be reliable work horses.
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This...

The major cost factor in aviation by a big margin is fuel costs so doing everything your can to reduce fuel consumption is number two on the list of priorities, just behind safety.

Aircraft have been made mostly with lightweight aluminum for decades but CF is lighter still so the aircraft can be made lighter which: reduces the fuel needed to transport x number of people y miles, reducing the amount of fuel needed further reduces weight which further reduces fuel consumption.

In addition, an airframes lifespan is driven more by the number of pressurization cycles then by the number of air-miles because metal tends to fatigue when flexed like this but CF is, as best I know, largely immune to this failure mechanism.

Lastly, the engines on this new plane are the latest and greatest which once again reduces fuel consumption.

Put it all together the long term operating costs are expected to be much less than anything out there so it's no surprise the airlines are on board.


Brian
 
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