Why is so little being spent on embryonic stem cell research.

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Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: StatsManD
Didn't they semi-cure paralyzed mice or rats with this?

Good lord dude. You don't even know. /thread? :p

Get some facts and then come back before spouting off generalizations fit for freshman high school newspaper reports.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: StatsManD
I am horrified that people still have doubts about the wonders of embryonic stem cell, even after all it has already done.

See, now I can tell you are trolling because I guarantee you cannot come up with a single thing it has 'already done'.

i think it is a nef / postcount ++ thread
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: StatsManD
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: StatsManD
What is pathetic is some countries like Germany have banned this kind of research. Even Poland and Malto too. I thought Europe was beyond this crap.

How do you know it is crap? What proof do you have?

Because it has the potential to save tens of billions of lives.

1) I believe other posters are waiting for more information showing that embryonic stem cell research does, in fact, have this potential; simply because you say so doesn't make it the truth

2) Simply because it has the potential still doesn't mean governments should spend money on it if the science as a whole is in its infancy; again, as other posters have mentioned, most scientific funding as a whole is secured through private organizations and donations by individuals

3) Along a different line of thinking, maybe Germany and its government/citizens (although it's quite presumptuous of me to attempt to speak for an entire country) would say the same of you, that they'd think you, as an American, would be beyond this kind of "crap"
 

mercanucaribe

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It makes no sense that the divide over stem cell research is religious.

As an atheist, I see the creation of a human being in order to destroy it for research as wrong. Not sure why it's considered acceptable to everyone but a portion of Christians.

My morals come from Star Trek.
 

uberman

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Federal funding of stem cell research is banned because we're living in a theocracy.

Other countries are doing research and they can sell that technology back to us as we slide back into the darkness of the middle ages. We can rely on faith healers and prayer for cures rather than science.
 

StatsManD

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Originally posted by: uberman
Federal funding of stem cell research is banned because we're living in a theocracy.

Other countries are doing research and they can sell that technology back to us as we slide back into the darkness of the middle ages.



Sad thing, most other countries aren't doing research either. California is pending more than any other country, and we barely spenidng a thing.
 

uberman

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Originally posted by: StatsManD
Originally posted by: uberman
Federal funding of stem cell research is banned because we're living in a theocracy.

Other countries are doing research and they can sell that technology back to us as we slide back into the darkness of the middle ages.



Sad thing, most other countries aren't doing research either. California is pending more than any other country, and we barely spenidng a thing.

I listen to Dr. Dean Edell on the radio and he's really upset about the USA not doing research and he's said that many other countries are. Source: Dr. Dean Edell, ABC Radio
 

StatsManD

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Originally posted by: uberman
Originally posted by: StatsManD
Originally posted by: uberman
Federal funding of stem cell research is banned because we're living in a theocracy.

Other countries are doing research and they can sell that technology back to us as we slide back into the darkness of the middle ages.



Sad thing, most other countries aren't doing research either. California is pending more than any other country, and we barely spenidng a thing.

I listen to Dr. Dean Edell on the radio and he's really upset about the USA not doing research and he's said that many other countries are. Source: Dr. Dean Edell, ABC Radio

I think he is refering to no federal funding, which is also true in much of Europe. But their is some state funding.
 

StatsManD

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Private companies won't spend money on this, because they don't want to find a cure. They want treatments, not cures. Endless treatments bring profits, not cures. If a pharma company found the cure for HIV/AIDS I have no doubt in my mind they would destroy it.
 

teclado

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It's the age-old question: do the ends justify the means?

The ends being cure, the means being using human stem cells to find the cure.

I agree with StatsManD, a cure would mean that the company would no longer have paying customers for treatments...sickening, isn't it?
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: StatsManD
Private companies won't spend money on this, because they don't want to find a cure. They want treatments, not cures. Endless treatments bring profits, not cures. If a pharma company found the cure for HIV/AIDS I have no doubt in my mind they would destroy it.

You are a master of generalization.

By the way, I doubt anyone who is posting for the first time on Anandtech Off Topic would throw around 'ATOT' as you did earlier. :p
 

teclado

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Originally posted by: Paddington
Because it has the potential to save tens of billions of lives.

They don't even have tens of billions of people. Some stats man you are.

I think he was referring to the lives that will be saved in the future as well, at least that's how I looked at it. :p
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: StatsManD
Exactly, I was refering to lives being saved in the future too.

I was starting to believe you actually thought embryonic stem cell research might actually be able to save lives from the past as well.
 
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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Because Christians fear Science and Knowledge.

It's funny cause that statements proves you're a close-minded bigot which is the antithesis of a scientist. :thumbsup: