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Originally posted by: Skoorb
If you're a no0b!Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
btw skoorbie, for someone like me you sig /\/1554/\/ 43\/A could seem to be saying "Nissan neva"
In your sig Plat and Mrs Plat speak to me of a picture of a platypus
Nissan NEVA!!
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I see a lock in this threads future, hehehe. I've been in a couple that have been locked, still no mod quote though. Guess I gotta keep on trying!
Originally posted by: luvly
"I'm SURE many people don't realize that they're too different words. The grammar on ATOT is atrocious and in some cases it's just a slip up, but I think that in the majority of cases the writer simply knows no better. The more time I spend on anandtech the more I realize that my kids are not going to a public school in this country."
Hehehe! I thought I was supposed to be the picky person as far as the English language. :/
In contrast to your conclusion about American public schools, I have a different plan. I have experienced private schools (as well as public), and they ended up being not any better. I mean . . . I even considered sending my future kids to private schools to avoid the issue of religion and also to promote moral values. Nevertheless, I realised that private schools were not any better in morality either. Therefore, it seemed like a waste of money for all intents and purposes. As a result, I will send my kids to prestigious public schools. There are some excellent ones out there. If things go as planned though, I must adhere to my class status. I would have to send them to private schools, in spite of my preference. It would not be too bad, I suppose . . . since there are prestigious private schools too.
regarding a discussion on the Educational system in America.
to be honest, my belief is that it's pretty good all things considered. is it perfect?? not a chance. how does it compare to the rest of the world? Favorably if you ask me. i would MUCH rather raise my children and educate them here in the US than in KOREA. this is true for lots of asian parents. WHY?? because despite the fact that our children would probably have gotten better math scores had they been educated in Japan or Korea, i'm willing to bet that they wouldn't have been as well educated OVERALL vs what they get here in the US.
I still think that the Educational system in the US ranks as one of the best. can it use improvement?? YES, is it HORRIBLE?? NO.
All races have horrible grammar skills. My favorites are:
"That be cool."
"Ite"
"Who that is."
"You be trippin', dawg"
I also like when people remove the "s" from words (You got fifty cent)
After working in a grocery store in Southern Louisiana for 8 years, I can say that black people are the only ones that have ever asked me for a "round quarter." That's not improper grammar, but it just annoyed me.
true, but it's relatively unimportant vs the real learning. in the US, believe it or not, people are taught to think for themselves and to educate themselves, more than in other countries. that to me is more of a priority than geography.
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Well like Skoorb was pointing out, it was starting to degenerate into posts pointing out grammatical errors in the previous posts. A continuing trend in that direction would certainly cause a mod to put an end to that sort of pointlessness. For that reason and my mentioning a desire for a mod quote implying I want to sabotage this thread, hahaha.
"to be honest, my belief is that it's pretty good all things considered. is it perfect?? not a chance. how does it compare to the rest of the world? Favorably if you ask me. i would MUCH rather raise my children and educate them here in the US than in KOREA. this is true for lots of asian parents. WHY?? because despite the fact that our children would probably have gotten better math scores had they been educated in Japan or Korea, i'm willing to bet that they wouldn't have been as well educated OVERALL vs what they get here in the US."
I have to agree with you. This is a country of opportunity. And yes, critical thinking is promoted, whereas other countries are more focused on technicality than free thinking. However, I'm afraid American schools are getting significant influence from the new influx of immigrants and the rise in technology. As a result, things seem so technical again, and little care is given to critical thinking. It's as if people are being tested quantitatively, rather than qualitatively.
I have to agree with you. This is a country of opportunity. And yes, critical thinking is promoted, whereas other countries are more focused on technicality than free thinking. However, I'm afraid American schools are getting significant influence from the new influx of immigrants and the rise in technology. As a result, things seem so technical again, and little care is given to critical thinking. It's as if people are being tested quantitatively, rather than qualitatively.
i think it has to do more with HOW they study than WHAT they study.
immigrants, particularly from Asia and India tend to focus on Memorization more than understanding. they test well, so they are placed in the advanced classes etc.
i choose to keep my kids in a district with fewer asians for that reason.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
true, but it's relatively unimportant vs the real learning. in the US, believe it or not, people are taught to think for themselves and to educate themselves, more than in other countries. that to me is more of a priority than geography.
When you can't find your own country on a world map (Or in a lot of cases, a map of North America), there is a HUGE problem. This is why in-car navigation systems are becoming popular - people can't find their way to the damn grocery store or read the signs on the interstate to find a gas station. "GAS EXIT 14: EXXON" "FOOD EXIT 14: MCDONALDS, BURGER KING" "LODGING EXIT 14: RED ROOF INN"
Maryland is cool with the signs like that, don't know too much about other states, I know PA has their own version, giant, ugly billboards pointing you to a McDonalds.
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
true, but it's relatively unimportant vs the real learning. in the US, believe it or not, people are taught to think for themselves and to educate themselves, more than in other countries. that to me is more of a priority than geography.
When you can't find your own country on a world map (Or in a lot of cases, a map of North America), there is a HUGE problem. This is why in-car navigation systems are becoming popular - people can't find their way to the damn grocery store or read the signs on the interstate to find a gas station. "GAS EXIT 14: EXXON" "FOOD EXIT 14: MCDONALDS, BURGER KING" "LODGING EXIT 14: RED ROOF INN"
Maryland is cool with the signs like that, don't know too much about other states, I know PA has their own version, giant, ugly billboards pointing you to a McDonalds.
have you ever tried to get directions in another country?? Korea and Japan have HORRIBLE street signs, i mean HORRIBLE and they natives aren't good about giving directions either. basically, most of them only know their way around because they've lived there soo long, but if you ask for directions, they can only give you vague landmarks and directions that don't make any sense.
ignorance is rampant ALL OVER the world.
Is there a simple rule to distinguish when to use 'what' and when to use 'which'? Does it have to do with multiplicity or making some kind of distinction?
Would you say "What game should we play?" or would you say "Which game should we play?"? I admit 'which' sounds a little better in this case, but 'what' doesn't sound very wrong to my ears either.
Would you say "What game should we play?" or would you say "Which game should we play?"? I admit 'which' sounds a little better in this case, but 'what' doesn't sound very wrong to my ears either
.Originally posted by: oLLie
Is there a simple rule to distinguish when to use 'what' and when to use 'which'?
Would you say "What game should we play?" or would you say "Which game should we play?"? I admit 'which' sounds a little better in this case, but 'what' doesn't sound very wrong to my ears either
that's because you always say it and hear it that way.
for me, what and which is like much and many. which distinguishes one from a group, what is more qualitative. which is objects, what is ideas.
which car, not what car.
what kind of car, not which kind of car.
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But it's true - less American highschool kids can identify the US on a map than Canadians. In fact, when tested against many of the world's leading countries in geography American highschoolers faired nearly at the bottom! national geographic did the testing a while back. Something like 15% of US highschool kids can't even find the US on a map.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: oLLie
Is there a simple rule to distinguish when to use 'what' and when to use 'which'?
Would you say "What game should we play?" or would you say "Which game should we play?"? I admit 'which' sounds a little better in this case, but 'what' doesn't sound very wrong to my ears either
that's because you always say it and hear it that way.
for me, what and which is like much and many. which distinguishes one from a group, what is more qualitative. which is objects, what is ideas.
which car, not what car.
what kind of car, not which kind of car.
I like that explanation, it makes sense to me. Hopefully, I'll remember to put it to use.
*edit* Out of curiosity, should that first comma above be a semi-colon?
I remember that! I took the test online and felt all
because I got them all correct.Originally posted by: oLLie
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: oLLie
Is there a simple rule to distinguish when to use 'what' and when to use 'which'?
Would you say "What game should we play?" or would you say "Which game should we play?"? I admit 'which' sounds a little better in this case, but 'what' doesn't sound very wrong to my ears either
that's because you always say it and hear it that way.
for me, what and which is like much and many. which distinguishes one from a group, what is more qualitative. which is objects, what is ideas.
which car, not what car.
what kind of car, not which kind of car.
I like that explanation, it makes sense to me. Hopefully, I'll remember to put it to use.
*edit* Out of curiosity, should that first comma above be a semi-colon?
i'm not sure regarding the semicolon. actually i think there should be neither semicolon or comma there.
regardless.
if you think back to my initial question, why is switching what and which pretty much acceptable to most people but switching much and many isn't?
if someone where to ask "how much baseball players do you follow?" what do you think would be ATOT's response to that?
Most people type as they speak...
I'm guilty on occasion, of not knowing, or mis-typing.... but I think the general gist of the text gets across...
It's about the dumbest common denominator..
I'm guilty on occasion, of not knowing, or mis-typing.... but I think the general gist of the text gets across...
It's about the dumbest common denominator..
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