"I'm SURE many people don't realize that they're too different words. The grammar on ATOT is atrocious and in some cases it's just a slip up, but I think that in the majority of cases the writer simply knows no better. The more time I spend on anandtech the more I realize that my kids are not going to a public school in this country."
Hehehe! I thought I was supposed to be the picky person as far as the English language. :/
You are right, but the usual excuse is that this is an informal setting.
In contrast to your conclusion about American public schools, I have a different plan. I have experienced private schools (as well as public), and they ended up being not any better. I mean . . . I even considered sending my future kids to private schools to avoid the issue of religion and also to promote moral values. Nevertheless, I realised that private schools were not any better in morality either. Therefore, it seemed like a waste of money for all intents and purposes. As a result, I will send my kids to prestigious public schools. There are some excellent ones out there. If things go as planned though, I must adhere to my class status. I would have to send them to private schools, in spite of my preference. It would not be too bad, I suppose . . . since there are prestigious private schools too.
Hehehe! I thought I was supposed to be the picky person as far as the English language. :/
You are right, but the usual excuse is that this is an informal setting.In contrast to your conclusion about American public schools, I have a different plan. I have experienced private schools (as well as public), and they ended up being not any better. I mean . . . I even considered sending my future kids to private schools to avoid the issue of religion and also to promote moral values. Nevertheless, I realised that private schools were not any better in morality either. Therefore, it seemed like a waste of money for all intents and purposes. As a result, I will send my kids to prestigious public schools. There are some excellent ones out there. If things go as planned though, I must adhere to my class status. I would have to send them to private schools, in spite of my preference. It would not be too bad, I suppose . . . since there are prestigious private schools too.
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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: konichiwa
ATOT is hardly the place upon which you should be basing your assumptions about American grammar usage
point conceded.
should i change that to ATOTers??
on second thought, i never said americans did i?
i said english users.
I think Konichiwa was responding to Skoorb's comment about his kids going to school in this country(Skoorb's profile be showing Alabama, which be in America).
ahh, btw, you know that skoorb is actually a canadian living in the US right?
Hehehe, for some reason I have that song from South Park the movie running through my head right now... Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
Skoorb doesn't it scare you that people know this much about you? You've got ATOT stalkers now!(Rambler raps himself in his cloak of internet anonymity and shudders!)
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2which pronoun (bef. 12c)
1 : what one or ones out of a group ? used as an interrogative <which of those houses do you live in> <which of you want tea and which want lemonade> <he is swimming or canoeing, I don't know which>
2 : whichever <take which you like>
3 ? used as a function word to introduce a relative clause ? used in any grammatical relation except that of a possessive ? used esp. in reference to animals, inanimate objects, groups, or ideas <the bonds which represent the debt ? G. B. Robinson> <the Samnite tribes, which settled south and southeast of Rome ? Ernst Pulgram> ? used freely in reference to persons as recently as the 17th century <our Father which art in heaven ? Mt 6:9 (AV)>, and still occas. so used but usu. with some implication of emphasis on the function or role of the person rather than on the person as such <chiefly they wanted husbands, which they got easily ? Lynn White> ? used by speakers on all educational levels and by many reputable writers, though disapproved by some grammarians, in reference to an idea expressed by a word or group of words that is not necessarily a noun or noun phrase <he resigned that post, after which he engaged in ranching ? Current Biog.> Usage see 4that
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
1what \"hwat, "hwet, "wat, "wet\ pronoun [ME, fr. OE hwaet, neut. of hwa who ? more at who] (bef. 12c)
1 a (1) ? used as an interrogative expressing inquiry about the identity, nature, or value of an object or matter <what is this> <what is wealth without friends> <what does he earn> <what hath God wrought>
(2) ? often used to ask for repetition of an utterance or part of an utterance not properly heard or understood <you said what>
b (1) archaic : who 1 ? used as an interrogative expressing inquiry about the identity of a person
(2) ? used as an interrogative expressing inquiry about the character, nature, occupation, position, or role of a person <what do you think I am, a fool> <what is she, that all our swains commend her ? Shak.>
c ? used as an exclamation expressing surprise or excitement and frequently introducing a question <what, no breakfast>
d ? used in expressions directing attention to a statement that the speaker is about to make <you know what>
e ? used at the end of a question to express inquiry about additional possibilities <is it raining, or snowing, or what>
f chiefly Brit ? used at the end of an utterance as a form of tag question <a clever play, what>
2 chiefly dial : 4that 1, which 3, who 3
3 : that which : the one or ones that <no income but what he gets from his writings> ? sometimes used in reference to a clause or phrase that is yet to come or is not yet complete <gave also, what is more valuable, understanding>
4 a : whatever 1a <say what you will>
b obs : whoever
what for
1 : for what purpose or reason : why ? usu. used with the other words of a question between what and for <what did you do that for> except when used alone
2 : harsh treatment esp. by blows or by a sharp reprimand <gave him what for in violent Spanish ? New Yorker>
what have you : whatnot <novels, plays, short stories, travelogues, and what have you ? Haldeen Braddy>
what if
1 : what will or would be the result if
2 : what does it matter if
what of
1 : what is the situation with respect to
2 : what importance can be assigned to
what's what : the true state of things <knows what's what when it comes to fashion>
what though : what does it matter if <what though the rose have prickles, yet 'tis plucked ? Shak.>
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
1 : what one or ones out of a group ? used as an interrogative <which of those houses do you live in> <which of you want tea and which want lemonade> <he is swimming or canoeing, I don't know which>
2 : whichever <take which you like>
3 ? used as a function word to introduce a relative clause ? used in any grammatical relation except that of a possessive ? used esp. in reference to animals, inanimate objects, groups, or ideas <the bonds which represent the debt ? G. B. Robinson> <the Samnite tribes, which settled south and southeast of Rome ? Ernst Pulgram> ? used freely in reference to persons as recently as the 17th century <our Father which art in heaven ? Mt 6:9 (AV)>, and still occas. so used but usu. with some implication of emphasis on the function or role of the person rather than on the person as such <chiefly they wanted husbands, which they got easily ? Lynn White> ? used by speakers on all educational levels and by many reputable writers, though disapproved by some grammarians, in reference to an idea expressed by a word or group of words that is not necessarily a noun or noun phrase <he resigned that post, after which he engaged in ranching ? Current Biog.> Usage see 4that
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
1what \"hwat, "hwet, "wat, "wet\ pronoun [ME, fr. OE hwaet, neut. of hwa who ? more at who] (bef. 12c)
1 a (1) ? used as an interrogative expressing inquiry about the identity, nature, or value of an object or matter <what is this> <what is wealth without friends> <what does he earn> <what hath God wrought>
(2) ? often used to ask for repetition of an utterance or part of an utterance not properly heard or understood <you said what>
b (1) archaic : who 1 ? used as an interrogative expressing inquiry about the identity of a person
(2) ? used as an interrogative expressing inquiry about the character, nature, occupation, position, or role of a person <what do you think I am, a fool> <what is she, that all our swains commend her ? Shak.>
c ? used as an exclamation expressing surprise or excitement and frequently introducing a question <what, no breakfast>
d ? used in expressions directing attention to a statement that the speaker is about to make <you know what>
e ? used at the end of a question to express inquiry about additional possibilities <is it raining, or snowing, or what>
f chiefly Brit ? used at the end of an utterance as a form of tag question <a clever play, what>
2 chiefly dial : 4that 1, which 3, who 3
3 : that which : the one or ones that <no income but what he gets from his writings> ? sometimes used in reference to a clause or phrase that is yet to come or is not yet complete <gave also, what is more valuable, understanding>
4 a : whatever 1a <say what you will>
b obs : whoever
what for
1 : for what purpose or reason : why ? usu. used with the other words of a question between what and for <what did you do that for> except when used alone
2 : harsh treatment esp. by blows or by a sharp reprimand <gave him what for in violent Spanish ? New Yorker>
what have you : whatnot <novels, plays, short stories, travelogues, and what have you ? Haldeen Braddy>
what if
1 : what will or would be the result if
2 : what does it matter if
what of
1 : what is the situation with respect to
2 : what importance can be assigned to
what's what : the true state of things <knows what's what when it comes to fashion>
what though : what does it matter if <what though the rose have prickles, yet 'tis plucked ? Shak.>
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Hows this for irony.
Anyone received able to access their grades yet?
they are asking about college grades, i had to read that 2 or 3 times before i figured out what it meant.
Anyone received able to access their grades yet?
they are asking about college grades, i had to read that 2 or 3 times before i figured out what it meant.
It doesn't matter to me that many people have the grammar skills of a 4th grader. As long as I can speak the language properly (or close to it), then I'm happy.
The spelling police and grammar Nazis are quite annoying on this board. The only time someone should be "struck down with great vengeance and furious anger" for improper usage is when he/she is trying to make an intelligent post (debate, theory, "I'm better than you because..", etc).
People making spelling/grammar errors in threads about sports, movies, and anything else fun should be given some slack....
The spelling police and grammar Nazis are quite annoying on this board. The only time someone should be "struck down with great vengeance and furious anger" for improper usage is when he/she is trying to make an intelligent post (debate, theory, "I'm better than you because..", etc).
People making spelling/grammar errors in threads about sports, movies, and anything else fun should be given some slack....
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: CrackaLackaZe
pwned!
and while we are on this grammar kick, WTF is "Pwned"???
why does misspelling something make it cool?
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It will depend where we're living. The school system linked to our current house is around the 65 percentile I believe, though the richer suburbs in Birmingham have 80+, which is pretty good. I'd definitely have to find out how the private schools locally are scoring on tests before droppig $5k+/year on them.
I went to a private school, and although I know plenty who went to the public school by my house, my education was better undoubtedly. My science was the same, or slightly inferior, but our history, english, etc. were all far superior. Although different children can respond differently in the same environment, and most of us came from above-average families money-wise, every one of our graduating class went on to college. So, education aside, the private school atmosphere bred some sense of worth in us that I think the local public school lacked.
A bit, but really knowing that I'm from Canada isn't a huge tidbit of info
I do say a lot on ATOT, but most of it is not particularly personal or important Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: CrackaLackaZe
pwned!
and while we are on this grammar kick, WTF is "Pwned"???
why does misspelling something make it cool?
l33t sp34k 1s t3h r0x3rs n00b.
Besides, when it's an intentional misspelling to imply a joking manner, it's not necessarily a grammatical error.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
It will depend where we're living. The school system linked to our current house is around the 65 percentile I believe, though the richer suburbs in Birmingham have 80+, which is pretty good. I'd definitely have to find out how the private schools locally are scoring on tests before droppig $5k+/year on them.
I went to a private school, and although I know plenty who went to the public school by my house, my education was better undoubtedly. My science was the same, or slightly inferior, but our history, english, etc. were all far superior. Although a different children can respond differently in the same environment, and most of us came from above-average families money-wise, every one of our graduating class went on to college. So, education aside, the private school atmosphere bred some sense of worth in us that I think the local public school lacked.A bit, but really knowing that I'm from Canada isn't a huge tidbit of info
good job skoobie.
the grammar police on the prowl.
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: CrackaLackaZe
pwned!
and while we are on this grammar kick, WTF is "Pwned"???
why does misspelling something make it cool?
l33t sp34k 1s t3h r0x3rs n00b.
Besides, when it's an intentional misspelling to imply a joking manner, it's not necessarily a grammatical error.
actually, i didn't say it was an error, i just HATE that word "pwned".
it's worse for black people.... here are a few examples
* give me one of them lottery tickets... (give me one of those lottery tickets)
* - five dollars and 26 cents, please...
- who? (what?)
For them, everything is a person. I am not sure if they do it on purpose because I know many african american people who speak better english than most whites.
* give me one of them lottery tickets... (give me one of those lottery tickets)
* - five dollars and 26 cents, please...
- who? (what?)
For them, everything is a person. I am not sure if they do it on purpose because I know many african american people who speak better english than most whites.
You think that grammar in email is bad? You should see SMS conversations. I type everything out, properly punctuated and capitalized (As I do everything) and receive replies like "wtf gnna tke 10 txts 2 fin yr sntnc cll me instd <3" which translates roughly to "What the fsck. It's going to take you 10 text messages to finish your sentence. Call me instead." Damn 150 character limit and 10 cent per message sent/recieved charge.
The Internet, just like SMS and cellular phones, have spawned their own shorthand and slang. It was inevitable. I really don't mind spelling mistakes and grammar errors online or in email so long as they can still clearly get their point across in words. But thanks to ten years worth of pop and rap music we now have an entire generation of AOL chat room linguists fluent in ebonics and stupidity.
ya, but it's just one sentence.
it's not like it will change the meaning of the sentence or anything.
basically, capitalization is just about convenience and not about meaning.
ok, so i'm just rationalizing.
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And you're DEFINITELY done capitalizing :QOriginally posted by: PlatinumGold
ya, but it's just one sentence.
it's not like it will change the meaning of the sentence or anything.
basically, capitalization is just about convenience and not about meaning.
ok, so i'm just rationalizing.
btw skoorbie, for someone like me you sig /\/1554/\/ 43\/A could seem to be saying "Nissan neva"
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