muskie32
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Because the butcher throws out all the best parts of the animal. Where can I get me some deer liver and deer testicles? Now THAT'S some grubbin there!
Nasty :|
Because the butcher throws out all the best parts of the animal. Where can I get me some deer liver and deer testicles? Now THAT'S some grubbin there!
Well, we've got all these guns... and we can't shoot people...
it's fun
it's tasty
it's economical (sometimes)
it's environmental
Hunting is about many things before bringing meat home.
Hunting camp/trips is a time to spend with friends and family. Many groups have traditional hunting camps that they look forward to for spending time with those that live far away, or make it a point to catch up on things at camp.
Being out in the woods is a wonderful time - away from work, city or whatever. Solitude and a time to reflect on your life etc.
Watching wildlife is also very rewarding. I've bow hunted many years, and being close to deer, having a Great Owl swoop in and perch next to me in the tree, all sorts of other crazy things that I would have never witnessed without being in the woods.
Some of my best experiences, stories and times by myself and with my friends has been the result of hunting - and none of what I mentioned above is about shooting or killing an animal!![]()
We killed off most of the predators and if we don't hunt the deer, elk and so forth they will over populate. we have to so the forest remains healthy.
Testicles(I've only had Beef ones) are very good.
Ok, they sound nasty... :sneaky:
rocky mountain oysters?Testicles(I've only had Beef ones) are very good.
rocky mountain oysters?
A) You will pay significantly more for the gas to get to your hunting site than the gas to get to your grocer unless you are one of the people who live in the forest to which you referred below
I have never heard of a cow from my local farm having mad cow disease. I have heard of many deer having CWD. Also, they don't live in a cage. And finally, I can assure you that deer living in the deep forest still can be diseased even though no human is coughing on them.
rocky mountain oysters?
Sitting in a tree stand in the cold in complete silence for hours on end versus a 30 minute round trip to the local grocery store. I'd say the latter is a more efficient expenditure of my time.
24 * 7 = 168 hours. Let's assume you sleep for 8 hours of the day. That leaves 112 hours. Let's assume a typical work week of 40 hours, plus we'll even toss in 5 hours for commuting. That leaves 67 hours left. Just what the fuck do you do with your spare time?? Would going for a nice relaxing walk into the woods cut into your World of Warcraft time? Your precious time on Facebook? Time spent surfing porn sites and masterbating? Some people have hobbies - and hunting is just as valid a hobby as any other hobby. Plus, it has a lot of benefits like fresh, "organic" meat. Venison is generally regarded as a better source of protein, is much lower in fat than beef, and has a lot of other health benefits. Plus, it tastes awesome.Good points. I was thinking from a purely selfish point of view only taking my own time vs. money into account. I would have to agree that taking these facts into account would change the efficiency ratio I had in mind.
does anyone here hunt bears? what is the purpose of that, do you actually eat bear meat?
If hunting is more efficient, mankind wouldn't evolve to farming/husbandry or develop towns/cities.the cost of a gun and some bullets is most likely less then it costs to raise an animal to slaughter age. its not more efficient, butchering your own animal is annoying
IMHO, bear hunters are trophy hunters and they come up will all kinds of excuses and ways to justify their lust for killing and bragging rights.It's far from "complete silence" - you're in an environment that many people wish they could spend more time in. It's away from all the noise of the city and hustle & bustle. But there are squirrels, chipmunks, red squirrels all making noise in the leaves, making you wonder "omg! Did a deer just walk up behind me?" There are turkeys wandering around, 2 nights last week, I had a huge fox go right by me, the occasional raccoon sighted in a tree sleeping, porcupines, lots of little tweety birds flying around in little groups, looking for seeds or whatever they are eating. Incredibly busy in the woods, but at the same time, very relaxing to be among all that.
24 * 7 = 168 hours. Let's assume you sleep for 8 hours of the day. That leaves 112 hours. Let's assume a typical work week of 40 hours, plus we'll even toss in 5 hours for commuting. That leaves 67 hours left. Just what the fuck do you do with your spare time?? Would going for a nice relaxing walk into the woods cut into your World of Warcraft time? Your precious time on Facebook? Time spent surfing porn sites and masterbating? Some people have hobbies - and hunting is just as valid a hobby as any other hobby. Plus, it has a lot of benefits like fresh, "organic" meat. Venison is generally regarded as a better source of protein, is much lower in fat than beef, and has a lot of other health benefits. Plus, it tastes awesome.
P.S. to whoever it was above that said deer don't have ribeyes. Sure they do - that's a portion of the back loin. They're just smaller than from cows.
Yes, I do. I've been bowhunting them for a number of years. I'm pretty selective too; the typical black bear harvested (in NY) is a little over 200 pounds. My goal is a minimum of 300 pounds, preferably 400 pounds plus. I've turned down a few during shotgun (slugs) season in NY. Bear is more the thrill of the pursuit for me - mano a mano (sort of) - stalking from the ground vs. waiting in a tree stand. Max range I'm comfortable arrowing a bear from is about 30 yards = close range. Still waiting for that one big bear. I've been within 5 yards of a bear (one with her cub) twice on the ground. Actually, the distances were more like 10 feet & 3 feet. (The three feet was a bit scary as the bear and her cub ran past me on a trail.)
If/when I get one, full body mount. The meat: steaks from the loins; I'll share with friends. And most of the rest of it just ground into hamburg & used to make things like summer sausage, sausage, jerky, etc.
how is "game" hunting the same as buying food at the store?
edit: I can't get man meat at the store...
IMHO, bear hunters are trophy hunters and they come up will all kinds of excuses and ways to justify their lust for killing and bragging rights.
<--- have eaten bear meat many times, and it is similar to cheap crappy pork. If the meat is what you are after then it would make more sense to hunt porcupines & wild boars because they are tastier than bear meat IMHO.
My brother can walk out his back door and start hunting. For me it is about 2 miles to a good spot.
CWD is WAYYYYYY more common than Mad Cow Disease, which you like to bring up any time possible. You are the one claiming that deer meat outside of residential areas is safer than a closely monitored, humane, high quality farm. You have yet to offer any remotely logical arguments to this. Natural Resource departments do some cursory monitoring of deer populations for diseases, but it goes nowhere near the level that a good farmer will go to protect his livestock since it directly affects their income. There are plenty of common diseases in deer and your "if it looks ok then it must be fine" argument makes no sense. Read up on bovine tuberculosis. Takes a long time to manifest visibly. Animals do not limp at any minor injury or disease in the wild - it is very bad for their survival to do so and like most animals deer are good at hiding it. Whether or not you catch something depends on a lot of factors including how you cook it and your immune system - that does not mean that there is no risk.CWD is so rare its insignificant.The CDC state the threat to humans has never been proven and the chances of CWD harming a human is minimal. If a deer is running about and acting normal then the chances of it being diseased are extremely unlikely. You got a much higher chance from catching something by eating in a restaurant.
Originally Posted by sandorski
Testicles(I've only had Beef ones) are very good.
rocky mountain oysters?
