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why is diesel not popular in the us?
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Pliablemoose
Lifer
16.22 mpg
If that's correct, I'd better start looking for aother VW🙁
If that's correct, I'd better start looking for aother VW🙁
Pliablemoose
Lifer
The biggest downsides for me (own a V8 GM non-turbo FS van that most dealers didn't even know GM made & 02' TDI Golf):
Refueling can get nasty, have to watch where you step, esp. @ truck stops.
Oil changes are a bitch on the new TDI VW's:
1.) put car on ramps
2.) remove top engine shroud (3 10mm bolts & covers)
3.) remove belly pan (~10 torx screws)
4.) remove drain plug
5.) remove top of oil filter cannister assembly
6.) replace exposed oil filter element ~$10
7.) replace 2 o-rings on the cannister assembly
8.) reinstall cannister assy.
9.) replace drain plug
10.) replace belly pan
11.) replace oil with synthetic diesel oil ~$19/gallon
12.) reinstall top shroud
I've gotten pretty fast @ it & the dealers charge ~$70-$80 per change, oil change shops won't even touch it...
Pliablemoose
Lifer
13) notice wife has no depth perception evidenced by all the scrapes on the undercarriage of car
14.) drive forward off ramps & make more scratches & dents... (attempt to balme wife for same, nasty divorce ensues & I end up living in aforementioned GM van🙁)
14.) drive forward off ramps & make more scratches & dents... (attempt to balme wife for same, nasty divorce ensues & I end up living in aforementioned GM van🙁)
:Q:Q:Q
Wow Pliablemoose. Talk about a pain with the oil change. I owned a '70 MB 220 Diesel for a short time while in Germany during the 80s. Oil changes on that car weren't nearly as complicated, although the canister and o-rings were also there if I recall correctly. Oil also becomes dirty rather quickly on those engines too.
Thought that the oil change issue with Diesel-powered cars might have evolved further by now than it has.
Wow Pliablemoose. Talk about a pain with the oil change. I owned a '70 MB 220 Diesel for a short time while in Germany during the 80s. Oil changes on that car weren't nearly as complicated, although the canister and o-rings were also there if I recall correctly. Oil also becomes dirty rather quickly on those engines too.
Thought that the oil change issue with Diesel-powered cars might have evolved further by now than it has.
Zenmervolt
Elite member
The definition of "horsepower" is "one foot-lb per second". "Horsepower" was invented by James Watt (the inventor of the steam engine) to describe the work his steam engine could accomplish in units that were understandable to the people of his day (i.e. the amount of draft horses that his engine could replace).
ZV
EDIT: Regarding the use of diesel in sports cars, Mercedes experimented with the concept in their CL-111 cars back in the 1970's. IIRC a diesel model reached 220 mph in testing.
Recently bought a VW Golf TDI - I love it.
Only have to fill my tank every 550-600 miles.
Slightly noisy engine, but I think its a really cool noise. 🙂
Only time it smells is starting it first thing on a cold morning, you get a puff of smelly smoke.
Acceleration and handling are both excellent.
You'd be surprised how many gas stations stock diesel, you tend not to notice it until you are looking for it.
EDIT: forgot to add, just had my first oil change at 5000 miles. I had heard it was a pain in the neck so I just took it back to the dealer. They charged around $60, including using synthetic oil.
Only have to fill my tank every 550-600 miles.
Slightly noisy engine, but I think its a really cool noise. 🙂
Only time it smells is starting it first thing on a cold morning, you get a puff of smelly smoke.
Acceleration and handling are both excellent.
You'd be surprised how many gas stations stock diesel, you tend not to notice it until you are looking for it.
EDIT: forgot to add, just had my first oil change at 5000 miles. I had heard it was a pain in the neck so I just took it back to the dealer. They charged around $60, including using synthetic oil.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
I'm not sure why they've gone with the element style oil filter, but my van is just like changing oil on a regular car (I guess like a car from the 80's-90's anyway) very straightforward.
With the push towards thermal efficiency, mpg & sound reduction, I'm sure the shrouds & belly pans will become more common in gasoline powered autos...
BooneRebel
Platinum Member
14.5L is for the 3.7L gas V6 (listed above the diesel on that site). Pull up the adobe file for full specifications and it lists the diesel as 9 l/100km, which converts to about 26mpg.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
Thanks, looks a little more like what I expected for MPG.
Instan00dles
Golden Member
Go Bio diesel, my dad bought a book that tells him how to make the stuff, he is going to make some and try it on his TDI so he it works, all he has to do it replace some hoses to handle the extra alcohol that is in bio diesel.
BooneRebel
Platinum Member
OK you two.
Torque:
1. The moment of a force; the measure of a force's tendency to produce torsion and rotation about an axis, equal to the vector product of the radius vector from the axis of rotation to the point of application of the force and the force vector.
2, A turning or twisting force.
Horsepower:
1. Abbr. hp A unit of power in the U.S. Customary System, equal to 745.7 watts or 33,000 foot-pounds per minute.
2. The power exerted by a horse in pulling.
3. A unit of power equal to 746 watts
Torque:
1. The moment of a force; the measure of a force's tendency to produce torsion and rotation about an axis, equal to the vector product of the radius vector from the axis of rotation to the point of application of the force and the force vector.
2, A turning or twisting force.
Horsepower:
1. Abbr. hp A unit of power in the U.S. Customary System, equal to 745.7 watts or 33,000 foot-pounds per minute.
2. The power exerted by a horse in pulling.
3. A unit of power equal to 746 watts
Zenmervolt
Elite member
You have a better way of interpreting the definition of "one foot-pound per second"? Horsepower is foot-pounds per second. You can't escape that definition.
ZV
EDIT: It appears that I reversed "power" and "work" in my head.
Chrishuff1
Platinum Member
Hey, I got a diesel 🙂 1982 Oldsmobile Delta 88. Just rolled over 410,000 miles, but up here fuel is more expensive then premium!😕 Picture of the Diesel Beast
Edit: I get 32 miles per gallon.
Edit: I get 32 miles per gallon.
Chrishuff1
Platinum Member
Actually it is the V8. This is the 2nd engine in it and 2nd transmission. Never have had a problem with it. But ya need to make sure you plug it in at night cause it is kinda hard to start when its cold.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
I think a lot of the bad reputation the early American V8's diesels got was due to our our historically poor maintenance of our autos. Many folks don't bother to even change their oil...
@ least with the gas engined autos of the time, when it ran rough & was taken into the shop for ignition work, the auto usually got an oil change too, diesels have (had) a long maintenance interval because there was no ignition system.
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