Why is CNN so far left?

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hal2kilo

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Are you familiar with how TV revenue works? Here's a hint: ratings. Covering Donald brought higher ratings than whatever drivel they would have otherwise aired. They covered him because it drove ratings, not because they wanted to. Same for every other media organization. They simply had no choice but to cover him, he moved the ratings needle.



They have tons of pundits, most of them lefties. Why not hire someone who actually knows the Trump campaign as a pundit?



Lets face it, there was very little discussion about policies in this election, from either party. The viewers simply didn't care about the policies. It came down to which of these two jackasses do you like the least. Trump's ugly comments vs illary and her lies, corruption and email problem. Kind of hard to ignore a topic that could have landed the candidate in jail ;)
First paragraph, now you're starting to get it.
 

SP33Demon

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fair enough.

the core issue for Trump still remains the fact that he shut-out unfriendly press during the election (revoking the credentials of the Washington Post among others), so anything he does to restrict media access is going to be met with swift criticism until he proves the concerns wrong.
Washpo is a cesspool of DNC-driven garbage. You aren't getting it yet, things like revoking their press pass is what made Trump even more appealing since the people repudiated the press as well.
 

Jhhnn

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Washpo is a cesspool of DNC-driven garbage. You aren't getting it yet, things like revoking their press pass is what made Trump even more appealing since the people repudiated the press as well.

Heh. It just fired up the deplorables, the people who were already voting for Trump.

The real story of this election is the electoral college & the fact that Dems didn't turn out the vote in swing states. Only 55-57% of people eligible actually voted & Trump didn't win a majority of those. Less than 28% of the electorate actually voted for him.
 

SP33Demon

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Heh. It just fired up the deplorables, the people who were already voting for Trump.

The real story of this election is the electoral college & the fact that Dems didn't turn out the vote in swing states. Only 55-57% of people eligible actually voted & Trump didn't win a majority of those. Less than 28% of the electorate actually voted for him.
Is that why so many people who didn't vote are protesting? Can't have buyer's remorse if you never sent the check for the product. ;)
 

MrSquished

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I only wish CNN was as left as FOX was right. CNN is fucking corporatist more than anything else.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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I only wish CNN was as left as FOX was right. CNN is fucking corporatist more than anything else.
Ding, ding you win a prize. In it's early days it was a pioneer in cable network news. I was going to tech school down a few blocks on Spring Street in Atlanta from the birthplace of the Turner broadcaster network when it was just a big independent network. Anyway, todays CNN has become a sort of the left side of Fox light. They've sacrificed journalistic credibility and professionalism for multicultural diversity as the seemingly primary goal. Calling it the Clinton News Network means you would be great at having my hand up your ass and moving your lips from there.
 

jackstar7

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Is that why so many people who didn't vote are protesting? Can't have buyer's remorse if you never sent the check for the product. ;)
Do you have numbers on the protesters from all the different cities and schools?

Children can't vote, but they are protesting. Are you saying their opinion is invalid because they're legally not allowed in the process?
 

crof2003

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Do you have numbers on the protesters from all the different cities and schools?

Children can't vote, but they are protesting. Are you saying their opinion is invalid because they're legally not allowed in the process?
To voice the other side, before the election, I drove by schools on the way to work with dozens of kids outside with home made pro-trump signs.

It was neat seeing them get involved in their own way, but I certainly don't think high schoolers should be voting before 18.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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LOL at this OP... the "left" doesn't watch cable news or listen to AM radio. Get over it...
 

crof2003

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The real story of this election is the electoral college .

100% agree. Regardless of if your person won or lost, this is the second time in recent history where the electoral college failed.

It used to make sense when communications were all hand written and there was no electricity. Now that we can count 99.9% of ballots in 8 hours and 100% in days, there is no reason that 1 vote shouldn't be 1 vote regardless of your state.


Only 55-57% of people eligible actually voted & Trump didn't win a majority of those. Less than 28% of the electorate actually voted for him.
... Just to use your same math, less than 28% of the electorate actually voted for Clinton....

(57% voted * 47.9% who voted = 27.3% of all electorate voted for her)
 

zinfamous

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Is that why so many people who didn't vote are protesting? Can't have buyer's remorse if you never sent the check for the product. ;)

some didn't obviously, some probably couldn't--laws and all.

Lots of high schools out protesting and very few within that population are allowed to vote. Granted, they are a historically low turnout even when they can vote. Perhaps this was a wake-up call to that demographic to maybe overturn their traditional complacency from previous such generations of young people.

I see their anger as a good thing if they manage to keep that energy up and, strangely enough, learn that mid terms/local elections are no less important than the big enchilada every 4 years. But, we'll see. These are the kids, many of them mixed race and minorities, who, in the world of Trump, their only crime is to be not-white and the kids of highly-educated immigrants, that have a lot to face in the next 2-4 years with the renewed energy from the white supremacists and Cernovich basic bitch bro Twitter cabal that are illegitimately empowered by this victory.

The thing is, they are of that Twitter world as well, something that no POTUS campaign has understood until Trump and his deplorable surrogates. Obama got the small donation, FB advertising campaign down. McCain and Romney didn't get that. Clinton's people never understood the power of Twitter and Periscope and Instagram for motivating the base and circumventing traditional advertising and messaging. When you really want to lie and create false narratives, it seems there is absolutely nothing better than a motivated base of self-hating Twitter bros. :D
 

PokerGuy

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100% agree. Regardless of if your person won or lost, this is the second time in recent history where the electoral college failed.

The electoral college did not "fail" at all. It worked just fine. It doesn't have to reflect the popular vote totals, that was never the goal.

It used to make sense when communications were all hand written and there was no electricity. Now that we can count 99.9% of ballots in 8 hours and 100% in days, there is no reason that 1 vote shouldn't be 1 vote regardless of your state.

There are already other threads about the pros and cons of this. It would mean that essentially the entire nation would be governed exclusively by the whims of those on the east and west coast. That doesn't make sense. Conversely, it doesn't make sense to have the non-coastal areas rule the country if the majority either. Balance is a good thing, and the EC helps preserve that balance IMO.

... Just to use your same math, less than 28% of the electorate actually voted for Clinton....

(57% voted * 47.9% who voted = 27.3% of all electorate voted for her)

So basically, 43% 'voted' "I don't really care one way or the other, I can't be bothered to vote", and of the remaining voters were pretty much split evenly between the two bad alternatives. I don't see any big mandate for anyone out of this, as much as Trump supporters like to think they got a big mandate. It's also not some huge repudiation of any policy or issue, it's just the public choosing between two lousy alternatives and they were pretty much evenly split.
 

Jhhnn

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100% agree. Regardless of if your person won or lost, this is the second time in recent history where the electoral college failed.

It used to make sense when communications were all hand written and there was no electricity. Now that we can count 99.9% of ballots in 8 hours and 100% in days, there is no reason that 1 vote shouldn't be 1 vote regardless of your state.



... Just to use your same math, less than 28% of the electorate actually voted for Clinton....

(57% voted * 47.9% who voted = 27.3% of all electorate voted for her)

Watch what Repubs attempt to do with their "mandate".
 

amenx

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Why is CNN so far left? What is your reference point? I guess only if you consider Fox news as 'centrist' or 'fair and balanced' it may seem so.
 

jackstar7

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So he can't go out to dinner with family? How's this breaking news?
Asking this question demonstrates that you do not understand the scope and influence that the position of POTUS has on the entire world at all times.
 

jackstar7

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How do you respond to the fact that Obama has done the same thing to the media. Here are 5 examples.

Do you have a double standard? To the point of this thread, CNN does. They covered Trumps ghosting of media with shock and horror, and Obama's with soothing words about how he deserved the privacy.
Your inability to see the difference lets me know what role you intend to have on these boards.
 

PokerGuy

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How do you respond to the fact that Obama has done the same thing to the media. Here are 5 examples.

Do you have a double standard? To the point of this thread, CNN does. They covered Trumps ghosting of media with shock and horror, and Obama's with soothing words about how he deserved the privacy.

No, no no, when obummer does it, it's obviously justified and well deserved. When Trump does it, well the clearly it's shock and horror and obviously irresponsible!! Lack of leadership!

/unbiased lefty media, so all the lefties keep insisting ;)
 

jeff_in_MD

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Even as a democrat I think most of their articles appear to way undermine their readers on being a fair and balanced news network. It's like they just don't give a fvck anymore and they're pushing readers away.

Looking at their headlines on current events that's neither positive or negative news..

Trump has a private dinner with family.
CNN: "Donald Trump ditches his press pool again, spurring sharp criticism"

Trump works privately on building his administration with nothing officially announced.
CNN:
"A team of bitter rivals",
"Trump's transition team is likely his leadership style.",
"Trump's son-in-law at center of infighting"

An alternate news network exists that challenges their views.
CNN: "The alt-right is truly terrifying"

Good lord! Is there a news network that is more in the middle and less partisan?
Was anything they said not true? How did the other networks report on the same thing? I don't usually go to CNN, Fox, or the other networks so I don't know know.
 

Bowfinger

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How do you respond to the fact that Obama has done the same thing to the media. Here are 5 examples.

Do you have a double standard? To the point of this thread, CNN does. They covered Trumps ghosting of media with shock and horror, and Obama's with soothing words about how he deserved the privacy.
This is a good example of deception by the alt-right media. If you read past the sensationalist headline and actually look at the original stories, you'll find you've been duped again. The first four "examples" all resulted in media criticism, much as they criticized Trump. (It was also reported that the first example was a spur of the moment decision during a Hawaii vacation.) The fifth "example" was a private family event within the White House. Here's a news flash: the press accompanies POTUS on public outings. They are not invited to everything POTUS does in private.


No, no no, when obummer does it, it's obviously justified and well deserved. When Trump does it, well the clearly it's shock and horror and obviously irresponsible!! Lack of leadership!

/unbiased lefty media, so all the lefties keep insisting ;)
You were much more useful before you became such a knee-jerk partisan hack. You've shown you can demonstrate reason and critical thought. You should do so more often and leave the brainwashed fapping to the LKs and Speedys. P&N could use a couple of intelligent conservatives again. My $0.02.
 
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Bowfinger

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Why is CNN so far to the left?
For the same reason there's no such thing as climate change. There is a right-wing propaganda empire that's found it quite profitable to manipulate poorly informed, gullible conservatives . These sites have spent years brainwashing the right that all other media are hopelessly liberal. (It's just a happy coincidence, of course, that this incessant cry of liberal bias just happens to serve the financial interests of these very same right-wing media businesses. Follow the money.)