Why is Bush so Popular??

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Napalm

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"...related to the defeat of the Taliban (no great accomplishment by anyone's standards),"

Is that what you meant to say? I seem to recall a certain Russian army that didn't fare as well after years of struggle. I remember mention of Viet Nam when we were contemplating going in there.

I think the swift, decisive trouncing is what cemented the popularity. Personally, I didn't care if Bush, Alan Keyes or John McCain got in office. I'm MUCH more concerned with the way issues are addressed, than who is behind the pen.



Please be serious. The Taliban presided over a country that was ravaged from years and years of war, had no money and no real military to speak of. To compare what the Soviets were up against and what the Americans were up against is like comparing apples and oranges. The Soviets basically fought the U.S. through the Afghans (the original resistance forces back in the 80's were all U.S. supported both with money and weapons). The U.S. post 9-11 on the other hand, pummelled the Taliban with the support of most nations, and with the military support of the Northern Alliance. There was no major super power bankrolling the Taliban in their fight against the U.S.. The only similarity between those two wars was the terrain - and even that was different because the U.S. was smart enough to finish up before the snow hit.

The real test will be how the U.S. fights a diffuse terrorist network around the world (this is of course Bush's original objective), not how it dismantled some third-rate, third-world, thug dictators. Anyhow - thats just my opinion. :)

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<< i think everyone likes Bush because hes like a regular american, or at least he protrays it well. I mean the whole thing of him choaking on a pretzel help him out. WHY? B/c he was watching Sunday Football. Typical american male. Even though he's got money and is president, hes down to earth and expresses his feelings on everything even if they seem harsh to everyone else. He has the same views of most americans with terrorism.

Did you see his press confrenece the other day when some middle eastern reporter tried to ask him a ?, and he couldnt understand. After a while of this 3 minutes question, he looked at ashcroft and powell and gave them that "what the hell is he talking about" look. IT WAS AWESOME, on national TV even. Shows he's more a true honest american than Clinton. What do you think Clinton would have said if he choked on a pretzel? He was watching like polo???

Plus his daughters are my age and they are hot and drink. Gotta love the whole family.
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thas some crazy funny sh*t...."its funny cause its true"
 

glenn1

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<< If you consider deception a mark of someone highly intelligent, then I guess you are right! >>



I wasn't the biggest Clinton fan myself, but it's time to get over using Clinton as a crutch in every discussion. He's not President anymore, so let's stop relying on the "Clinton argument" when talking about current politics. I don't think the kind of man Clinton was has anything more to do with Bush's popularity than the kind of man Carter was.

Others have mentioned his plain-spokeness as reason for his popularity, i can agree with that. I'll add in that his management style - gather the contrary opinions of all the best and brightest, weigh the options, decide, and then task folks to carry out his decision - seems to strike a chord with the American people, who seem to respond well to a leader who leads that way, as opposed from many politicians, who seem to see which way the public opinion is going, and go with it. Instead, Bush is essentially creating the public opinion.
 

AU Tiger

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How is Texas budget doing after Bush?

How is any state doing? North Carolina is pulling back money from counties and city governments because of their budget deficit and failure to control their spending. The tax and spend does'nt work so well when there is less to tax.
 

charrison

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SuperTool,

The Texas budget is still doing fine. There are decreased revenues do a slowed economy, but we are going to remain one of the few states without a state income tax. Next time do research before you start typing away....

 

JellyBaby

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All things equal it's nice to see a president not bogged down in scandal after scandal. Those got old real quick.
 
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Supertool -

Your assertion that GWB is responsible for the budget situation in Texas, whatever that is, betrays your ignorance.

Texas has a weak governor, constitutionally speaking. The Lieutenant Governor is actually far more powerful than the Governor in Texas.
The Texas State Legislature is vested with the power to spend and meets every other year by law. The fact that the legislature does not meet yearly means that there are often shortfalls that are unforeseen in years where the legislature does not meet. This type of problem with the Texas budget is not a new one. It is a Constitutional problem...

Jeff
 

Ornery

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So you DID mean to say that! Then what was all this about?. We had quite a few similar naysayers right here in ATOT before it got underway. After the war started, they said, "Well, bombing from 30,000 feet is easy, you'll be screwed when the ground war starts..."
 

SuperTool

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<< Your assertion that GWB is responsible for the budget situation in Texas, whatever that is, betrays your ignorance. >>


I didn't assert that GWB is responsible, I asserted that he was irresponsible :D
 

Piano Man

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Most Modern War-Time Presidents are Popular. I believe that his rating will decrease dramatically once the media stops pumping up the war coverage. If you look at what he proposes to fund and not fund in his budget, you will see alot of things that will piss off people. His proposal cutting back(if that's what you call it) industrial pollution is a joke. This time next year, his approval will probably be in the 60's or lower unless this "crusade"(he used the word, not me) against terroism keeps going strong and is constantly publicized by the media.
 

Napalm

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Ornery:

I'll agree that hindsight is 20:20 as long as you agree that the U.S. has defeated enemies that make the Taliban look like a joke. Shall we leave it at that? :)

N
 

Ornery

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You know what was also a feather in his cap, is the surgical precision of the massacre of Taliban, without too many civilian casualties. Why the president should get so much credit for our military's work doesn't seem quite right, but never the less, seems to be what's happened.

The American public is a fickle bunch. I'm embarrassed to be counted among them. My criteria for a leader is much different than the average citizen, that's for sure! As long as they pass and veto legislation my way, they're OK in my book. Not sure what Gore would have done about the Taliban, but I'm afraid if he were president, and listened to his Hollywood buddies, the Taliban would still be at full strength whether they're a joke or not.