Why I hate punk

[dugweb]

Originally posted by: amdmang

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

People that say crap like this piss me off... bands have chosen singing as a career, if an opportunity comes up to make more money doing something you love to do than wouldnt you take it?? Think about it sherlock. Also if their music is good, shouldn't more people be able to listen to it?? just because someone gets popular doesn't mean theyve sold out, it just means they make music lots of people like to listen to.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: Deeko

1. avril lavine
2. blink 182
3. good charolette (sp)
4. A New Found Glory
5. Sum 41
6. SR 71

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

TRUE punk music, the stuff from the heart, and truely defines punk.
1. The Vandals
2. NOFX
3. AFI
4. Digger
5. NIRVANA

Hold up a sec, you just said NOFX and The Vandals are drastically different from NFG and the like? Sorry, you are mistaken. I've heard all of them, and your second list is just as bad as the first. Except Nirvana...what the hell are they doing on there

What the fvck are you talking about? Seriously, I want to know exactly what songs you are comparing because what you just wrote makes no sense to me. All NFG sing about is girl problems. I have yet to hear one song by them that isn't about whining over a girl (and I've heard them all, my cousin is obsessed with this crap).

Tell me how NOFX compares to them or pass the pipe you're smoking...

It just proves how much he really knows about what is he talking about. No offense, but if you think NFG and NOFX are even remotely close in styles, you haven't been listening.

Sorry if I haven't analyzed every lyric, but the best way to compare two songs is to only half listen to them. That way you pick up what it sounds like, the style, that sort of thing. I'm talking to a brick wall here, if there were a Blink182 song that was word for word, chord for chord the same as one of the bands you like, you still wouldn't listen to me. GO ANARCHY WOO FVCK AUTHORITY

No one is asking you to analyze anything. But making a generalization that NOFX and NFG are similar is a completely myopic statement. That would be like me saying "Creed and Tool play the same music. It sounds the same to me."

And last time I checked, it wasn't 1982. What is with the GO ANARCHY WOO FVCK AUTHORITY stuff? I have been into punk rock for well over a decade and I am pretty sure I have never uttered this phrase.

 

[flavio]

There's seems to be a plethora of "Bubble Gum Punk" now that gets clasified as Punk somehow. It's very disturbing. They don't resemble oldschool Punk much at all.

Punk:

Minor Threat
Naked Raygun
Fear
Black Flag
GBH

 

[notfred]

edit: wrong damn thread.

 

[dugweb]

Originally posted by: notfred
You can also say that tool song I posted isn't the hardest song in the world to understand. fine

na, im just saying that tool isnt punk

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

Originally posted by: amdmang

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

People that say crap like this piss me off... bands have chosen singing as a career, if an opportunity comes up to make more money doing something you love to do than wouldnt you take it?? Think about it sherlock. Also if their music is good, shouldn't more people be able to listen to it?? just because someone gets popular doesn't mean theyve sold out, it just means they make music lots of people like to listen to.

I completely agree. This is the problem with "true punks". They don't want their favorite bands to ever make any money or they will become "sellouts".

I said it before: The "punk rock community" is based in elitism. These people like to know about bands that no one else knows about. Once they hit it big, these people are no longer "in the know". So they go out and hunt out "new" and obscure bands to latch onto. It is a vicious never-ending cycle.

 

[Mill]

I love threads like this. "My band is better and more underground and your band sold out." Blah Blah Blah...

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: flavio
There's seems to be a plethora of "Bubble Gum Punk" now that gets clasified as Punk somehow. It's very disturbing. They don't resemble oldschool Punk much at all.

Punk:

Minor Threat
Naked Raygun
Fear
Black Flag
GBH

FEAR. 😀


"Public hanging! There'll be pizza and beer! Public hangings! WITH MUSIC BY FEAR!"

😀

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

Originally posted by: amdmang

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

People that say crap like this piss me off... bands have chosen singing as a career, if an opportunity comes up to make more money doing something you love to do than wouldnt you take it?? Think about it sherlock. Also if their music is good, shouldn't more people be able to listen to it?? just because someone gets popular doesn't mean theyve sold out, it just means they make music lots of people like to listen to.

I completely agree. This is the problem with "true punks". They don't want their favorite bands to ever make any money or they will become "sellouts".

I said it before: The "punk rock community" is based in elitism. These people like to know about bands that no one else knows about. Once they hit it big, these people are no longer "in the know". So they go out and hunt out "new" and obscure bands to latch onto. It is a vicious never-ending cycle.

There's been a lot of Punk bands that have had pretty good success without selling out. Sex Pistols being the most obvious example. The only "in the know" problem is in childish little high school circles.

Music does get overplayed sometimes though. If you hear some great music once an hour for a month it's luster starts to wear off.

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
It all sounds the same
It's trendy
They sing about the same old irrelevant crap
They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.
I'm tired of seeing "punk rawk" on hotornot keyword lists.
There is little actual music involved.
There is no soul.
Almost all the shows in Austin are punk shows.

Punk has evolved from that anarchist nonsense that actually had some character to the Britney Spears of the new millennium.

This is the ongoing pattern of the status-quo re-asserting itself by incorporating resistance and selling it back to us in a washed out, tame and harmless way. (tame, lame)
Today's punk rock does not in any way resemble what it was originally, just like today hippies.
From subversive to supportive. Weak.

 

[Zenmervolt]

They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.

LMAO! You think that They Might Be Giants makes punk rock. That's just funny. And a little sad.

ZV

 

[Dufman]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

Originally posted by: amdmang

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

People that say crap like this piss me off... bands have chosen singing as a career, if an opportunity comes up to make more money doing something you love to do than wouldnt you take it?? Think about it sherlock. Also if their music is good, shouldn't more people be able to listen to it?? just because someone gets popular doesn't mean theyve sold out, it just means they make music lots of people like to listen to.

I completely agree. This is the problem with "true punks". They don't want their favorite bands to ever make any money or they will become "sellouts".

I said it before: The "punk rock community" is based in elitism. These people like to know about bands that no one else knows about. Once they hit it big, these people are no longer "in the know". So they go out and hunt out "new" and obscure bands to latch onto. It is a vicious never-ending cycle.

its called supporting your scene. you get a sence of pride, if you follow a small local band and then they get nationally recoginized. you feel good about it.

i work with a girl who listened to john mayer, when he was doing bar tours, and playing infront of 10 people. she said his music never changed. so there is on example (not punk though) of a guy who hit it big, being himself.

if a band can become big without selling out IE. changing the style of music they play. then that is great, take for example The*Ataris. They signed a Multi-million dollar contract with columba records. they DEMANDED that they have full artistic control over their records. so. they make a ton of money, but their music stays true to who they are. THat ISNT selling out.

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.

LMAO! You think that They Might Be Giants makes punk rock. That's just funny. And a little sad.

ZV

well, in the sense that they've always done their own thing, they're more punk than any of the pop-punk that's around today.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
It all sounds the same
It's trendy
They sing about the same old irrelevant crap
They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.
I'm tired of seeing "punk rawk" on hotornot keyword lists.
There is little actual music involved.
There is no soul.
Almost all the shows in Austin are punk shows.

Punk has evolved from that anarchist nonsense that actually had some character to the Britney Spears of the new millennium.

As others have said, try listening to punk not "pop punk."

"There is little actual music involved" that's completly subjective. Part of punks formation was as a backlash to technically heavy rock that emerged in the 70's. So punk tends to be simple and fast as opposed to long and complicated.


Lethal

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: amdmang

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

Originally posted by: amdmang

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

People that say crap like this piss me off... bands have chosen singing as a career, if an opportunity comes up to make more money doing something you love to do than wouldnt you take it?? Think about it sherlock. Also if their music is good, shouldn't more people be able to listen to it?? just because someone gets popular doesn't mean theyve sold out, it just means they make music lots of people like to listen to.

I completely agree. This is the problem with "true punks". They don't want their favorite bands to ever make any money or they will become "sellouts".

I said it before: The "punk rock community" is based in elitism. These people like to know about bands that no one else knows about. Once they hit it big, these people are no longer "in the know". So they go out and hunt out "new" and obscure bands to latch onto. It is a vicious never-ending cycle.

its called supporting your scene. you get a sence of pride, if you follow a small local band and then they get nationally recoginized. you feel good about it.

i work with a girl who listened to john mayer, when he was doing bar tours, and playing infront of 10 people. she said his music never changed. so there is on example (not punk though) of a guy who hit it big, being himself.

if a band can become big without selling out IE. changing the style of music they play. then that is great, take for example The*Ataris. They signed a Multi-million dollar contract with columba records. they DEMANDED that they have full artistic control over their records. so. they make a ton of money, but their music stays true to who they are. THat ISNT selling out.

I agree with what you are saying. I wasn't saying I was one of those who shun bands once they hit it big.

It is sacrificing your intergrity in order to succeed that I would deem "selling out". That is why I have never considered Green Day sellouts.

 

[Dufman]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: amdmang

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

Originally posted by: amdmang

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

People that say crap like this piss me off... bands have chosen singing as a career, if an opportunity comes up to make more money doing something you love to do than wouldnt you take it?? Think about it sherlock. Also if their music is good, shouldn't more people be able to listen to it?? just because someone gets popular doesn't mean theyve sold out, it just means they make music lots of people like to listen to.

I completely agree. This is the problem with "true punks". They don't want their favorite bands to ever make any money or they will become "sellouts".

I said it before: The "punk rock community" is based in elitism. These people like to know about bands that no one else knows about. Once they hit it big, these people are no longer "in the know". So they go out and hunt out "new" and obscure bands to latch onto. It is a vicious never-ending cycle.

its called supporting your scene. you get a sence of pride, if you follow a small local band and then they get nationally recoginized. you feel good about it.

i work with a girl who listened to john mayer, when he was doing bar tours, and playing infront of 10 people. she said his music never changed. so there is on example (not punk though) of a guy who hit it big, being himself.

if a band can become big without selling out IE. changing the style of music they play. then that is great, take for example The*Ataris. They signed a Multi-million dollar contract with columba records. they DEMANDED that they have full artistic control over their records. so. they make a ton of money, but their music stays true to who they are. THat ISNT selling out.

I agree with what you are saying. I wasn't saying I was one of those who shun bands once they hit it big.

It is sacrificing your intergrity in order to succeed that I would deem "selling out". That is why I have never considered Green Day sellouts.

green day had it difficult. even when they made it big, they didnt abandon their roots. kudos to them

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.

LMAO! You think that They Might Be Giants makes punk rock. That's just funny. And a little sad.

ZV

TMBG is of my favorite bands for several reasons. Superficially, all their songs are happy and upbeat (to me). Just listening to them casually is always a pick-me-up for me. Then, if I actually want to listen to something meaningful, there they are again, and that happy, upbeat song has turned into a song about death.

 

[smp]

The world is going to sh!t. Suicide due to bad punk is just.

 

[Swag1138]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.

LMAO! You think that They Might Be Giants makes punk rock. That's just funny. And a little sad.

ZV

I was about to say the exact same thing.....goodness, whats wrong with you? TMBG...punk?


Anyway, I just get pissed off at all the stupid punk kiddies. Punk is about doing your thing, and not caring what people think. Including the people who listen to your music. Its not about political angst. Its not about relationships. Its not even about meaningful lyrics. Its about singing whatever the hell you want to sing about.

Playing instruments fast isnt that hard. The music isnt that complex. The singing is, more often than not, half-assed. But people like it, and thats fine with me. I like some punk, but it starts to grate on my nerves after a while because of what I mentioned here. But Im not gonna say your stupid for liking it.

Just like what you like and dont tear down what other people like. Stop trying to be cool, it isnt working.

 

[Apathetic]

Originally posted by: amdmang
your trendy music probably consists of

1. avril lavine
2. blink 182
3. good charolette (sp)
4. A New Found Glory
5. Sum 41
6. SR 71

BUT thoes people are outcasted from the punk community. because they SOLD OUT. yes. sell out music is trendy, becasue its what teeny bopper kids like to hear. a clean cut sound.

TRUE punk music, the stuff from the heart, and truely defines punk.
1. The Vandals
2. NOFX
3. AFI
4. Digger
5. NIRVANA

they are the heart of punk music. and i DARE you to listen to the songs, and tell me that they are the same.

and you statement that punk

Punk has evolved from that anarchist nonsense that actually had some character to the Britney Spears of the new millennium.

punk was around long before. Remember the Sex Pistols? 1980's anyone?
punk has evolved from many things, but one thing is certain. NOT britney spears.

No soul?
this is real life stuff they are talking aboul

Little Music?
i have friends in bands, that can play anything you want them to. but they choose punk becasue it is what they believe in. you try playing guitar or drums that fast.

Same irrelevant crap?
i hope you dont listen to country music. becasue that is all "my dog died, my wife left me, and i have this bottle of jack to take me away"


you really need to open your eyes

Ok, maybe I'm showing my age here; but isn't Nirvana a grunge band? (grunge <> punk)

Dave

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: AvesPKS

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.

LMAO! You think that They Might Be Giants makes punk rock. That's just funny. And a little sad.

ZV

TMBG is of my favorite bands for several reasons. Superficially, all their songs are happy and upbeat (to me). Just listening to them casually is always a pick-me-up for me. Then, if I actually want to listen to something meaningful, there they are again, and that happy, upbeat song has turned into a song about death.

TMBG is one of my perpetual favourites. Flood will forever be on my list of favourite albums.

ZV

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: AvesPKS

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.

LMAO! You think that They Might Be Giants makes punk rock. That's just funny. And a little sad.

ZV

TMBG is of my favorite bands for several reasons. Superficially, all their songs are happy and upbeat (to me). Just listening to them casually is always a pick-me-up for me. Then, if I actually want to listen to something meaningful, there they are again, and that happy, upbeat song has turned into a song about death.

TMBG is one of my perpetual favourites. Flood will forever be on my list of favourite albums.

ZV

TMBG is great. I brought Flood into work the other day and listened to it, much to the confusion of my co-workers. But it's not punk.

 

[Dufman]

Punk is more of an ethos to so many people and isnt fairly treated as a style of music. Throw out as many of the bands that MTV tells you is punk because they aren't because they've parted ways from that very same ethos. Punk is the antithesis of MTV, MtV is a corporation attempting to sell you and 13 year old girls a style of music that is business oriented. Busniess is in a direct conflict with art, punk is art, and anyone claiming punk and selling records on MTV is a sellout.

 

[Citation]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
It all sounds the same
It's trendy
They sing about the same old irrelevant crap
They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.
I'm tired of seeing "punk rawk" on hotornot keyword lists.
There is little actual music involved.
There is no soul.
Almost all the shows in Austin are punk shows.

Punk has evolved from that anarchist nonsense that actually had some character to the Britney Spears of the new millennium.

Punk music makes me want to shoot my self in the face, but not as much as I would like to shoot the person in the face that is singing it.

-Rez

 

[thenewnoise]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
It all sounds the same
It's trendy
They sing about the same old irrelevant crap
They just yell, trying to fit their lyrics to their music,, "You're not the boss of me now and you're so big" etc etc.
I'm tired of seeing "punk rawk" on hotornot keyword lists.
There is little actual music involved.
There is no soul.
Almost all the shows in Austin are punk shows.

Punk has evolved from that anarchist nonsense that actually had some character to the Britney Spears of the new millennium.

you are a total idiot