Why has race relations gotten worse when laws/policies are passed to try to make it..

[JEDI]

better?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

....Uhhh... probably because those laws/politics are designed to divide, not unify?

I thought that was pretty obvious by now.

Or do you still need to realize that there are tons of angry Asians that are pissed off they didn't get accepted to Universities because they have to fill their affirmative action quota? Boy oh boy that sure seems like a great way to unify us all.

 

[smackababy]

Because, laws don't fix anything. Making something illegal doesn't make it go away.

 

[Jaskalas]

Internet and Social media means no one is isolated from strife and divisions. We all feel the pain and losses across at least an entire nation. That shared pain builds up into a resentment that couldn't build as rapidly or intensely as it did prior.

Basically, all our skeletons are falling out of the closet because we can no longer bury them.

Add onto that our increasing poverty and loss of wages. No one alive today has lived in an era with greater desperation... or pressing needs. They are masked by failing social programs that simply cannot keep up with rising demand.

Economics is tearing us apart.

 

[fskimospy]

You actually think race relations are worse than before the civil rights movement?

That's absolutely nuts.

 

[Moonbeam]

better?

I don't know what you know. Puss is the manifestation of a lanced boil and the turn around point of healing. It's always darkest before the dawn. Fish flop as they die. Are things getting worse or are more of us just becoming aware of how bad things have been?

 

[agent00f]

You actually think race relations are worse than before the civil rights movement?

That's absolutely nuts.

To be fair, before civil rights, #blm folks would probably be lynched so the white people then didn't hear about it much.

 

[0roo0roo]

better?

Tommy Sotomayor has answered this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1mShT6-QGw

you know what they say about "good intentions"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpJpM-oZ5k

 

[sandorski]

Those things can only do so much. The rest of it is up to People to change.

 

[ivwshane]

This is what it takes to make a thread now? One word?

 

[rudder]

You actually think race relations are worse than before the civil rights movement?

That's absolutely nuts.

Worse now than when the piece of shit in the White House took the oath of office.

 

[sandorski]

Worse now than when the piece of shit in the White House took the oath of office.

...and why is that?

 

[Subyman]

Worse now than when the piece of shit in the White House took the oath of office.

Not at all, it was just buried under the surface. Thank cameras and social media for bringing true issues to light. The fantasy of equality that people told themselves we had achieved during the 90's and 00's has been exposed as false and people are scrambling to reconcile their perceptions with reality.

Funny how you've chosen to blame the president, I thought he was proof that racism was over? Wasn't that the talking point a few years ago???

 

[theeedude]

I think the biggest issue is the war on drugs. Without it, the amount of police harassment and overall conflict with minorities would go down very significantly.

 

[umbrella39]

Worse now than when the piece of shit in the White House took the oath of office.

People like you should be taken out back and flogged. Pst, got news for you, racists were racists long before Obama came around, his audacity to become president only emboldened POS like you. Yeah, keep blaming him for your hate...

 

[rudder]

Not at all, it was just buried under the surface. Thank cameras and social media for bringing true issues to light. The fantasy of equality that people told themselves we had achieved during the 90's and 00's has been exposed as false and people are scrambling to reconcile their perceptions with reality.

Funny how you've chosen to blame the president, I thought he was proof that racism was over? Wasn't that the talking point a few years ago???

Idiot cop beer summit, Trayvon Martin could be my son, being quick to judgement when a white officer kills a black man but making sure we do not jump to conclusions when a jihadist kills people, there are many many more but it's late and I am tired. 7.5 years worth of divisive rhetoric from the Obama administration.

How long, if ever, will it tak Obama to acknowledge that the Dallas police killings were a hate crime ? The suspect has already said as much.

 

[buckshot24]

You can only tell people they are getting crapped on for so long. This whole police killing black people is just the latest example of the left stirring up things based on falsehoods. Black people get shot more because they shoot at cops more. Pretty simple. Cops are much more likely to get shot by a black person than a black person is to get shot by a cop.

 

[compuwiz1]

People like you should be taken out back and flogged. Pst, got news for you, racists were racists long before Obama came around, his audacity to become president only emboldened POS like you. Yeah, keep blaming him for your hate...

I have two things to say here. White people are not the only racists. I'm seeing more of the violence lately, coming from non whites.

 

[brycejones]

This thread will end well.

 

[umbrella39]

I have two things to say here. White people are not the only racists. I'm seeing more of the violence lately, coming from non whites.

I agree with your first point. Racists come in all shapes, colors, and sizes. You second point speak about violence. Not racism. But if we are speaking of racial violence, whites have always been violent racists dating back hundreds of years. The civil rights era simply drove them underground. Good old boys have never stopped dragging folks behind their trucks, etc. Blacks perpetrate hate crimes on whites as well. Blaming Obama for any of it is simply asinine.

 

[buckshot24]

I agree with your first point. Racists come in all shapes, colors, and sizes. You second point speak about violence. Not racism. But if we are speaking of racial violence, whites have always been violent racists dating back hundreds of years. The civil rights era simply drove them underground. Good old boys have never stopped dragging folks behind their trucks, etc. Blacks perpetrate hate crimes on whites as well. Blaming Obama for any of it is simply asinine.

How often do people get dragged behind trucks?

 

[Indus]

Idiot cop beer summit, Trayvon Martin could be my son, being quick to judgement when a white officer kills a black man but making sure we do not jump to conclusions when a jihadist kills people, there are many many more but it's late and I am tired. 7.5 years worth of divisive rhetoric from the Obama administration.

How long, if ever, will it tak Obama to acknowledge that the Dallas police killings were a hate crime ? The suspect has already said as much.

And they'll only get better when people realize racists like you are the problem, not a person who understands life and how to take care of it like giving healthcare to those who need it. Not that you care about life because all not wasp need to be escorted into gas chambers under your nazi fuhrer right?

 

[compuwiz1]

And they'll only get better when people realize racists like you are the problem, not a person who understands life and how to take care of it like giving healthcare to those who need it. Not that you care about life because all not wasp need to be escorted into gas chambers under your nazi fuhrer right?

Nice steaming pile of shit you've left on the trail here.

 

[positivedoppler]

Because everyone is hell bent on validating their perspective and proving how right they are. Nobody wants to listen to the other side, they just want to judge the other side and beat their POV across.

It will get worse. More people will die. Why? Because you have two sides with neither willing to budge to accommodate the other because they feel they hold the moral high ground. The only possible path is escalating violence.

 

[Exophase]

Not at all, it was just buried under the surface. Thank cameras and social media for bringing true issues to light. The fantasy of equality that people told themselves we had achieved during the 90's and 00's has been exposed as false and people are scrambling to reconcile their perceptions with reality.

You're probably right that things were in a lot of ways as bad or worse only with less spotlight on them but in some ways things are probably worse now. Just bringing more attention to the issues has resulted in more anger and consternation, and I suspect that the internet kind of breeds in-group mentality. That many at least think the divide is getting worse (http://www.ibtimes.com/race-relatio...ivide-growing-relations-getting-worse-2022879) can be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In some ways things are also getting worse for minorities, the 2008 recession for example has left black and hispanic people at a higher wage gap than ever:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-white-economic-gap-hasnt-budged-in-50-years/

And schools have gotten more segregated (because of white flight possibly?)

Single motherhood rates have been going up a lot over the past several decades:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...motherhood-in-america-over-the-last-50-years/

And has in particular hit black people really hard. As a more impoverished group to begin with they're also impacted more negatively by it and makes it harder for many to escape a cycle of poverty.

Economic divides along racial lines hurt race relations. Members of the disadvantaged group will often feel cheated and under more stress which will make them more resentful of the more advantaged group. Members of the more advantaged group will often (even subconsciously) look down on members of the less advantaged group, seeing them as less productive, or more dangerous due to higher crime rates that go along with poverty. The presence of such prejudices will just endlessly feed to making the prejudices on the other side more intense, in the absence of any other changes things will tend to simply escalate over time.

There has also been a lot more open discussion regarding racial relations, with concepts of privilege and aggressions being talked about everywhere in the media, social media, academia, etc. In some ways this can improve relations by getting people to be more conscious of ways in which others are oppressed and struggled, causing them to reform and push for reform in society. But in other ways this can make things worse, by making one side more bitter and more conditioned to see injustice and bigotry everywhere, and the other side feeling put on the defensive or unfairly represented. It's hard to say which way this has tipped the balance but I kind of suspect that as of right now it hasn't been for the better.

One random thing I've noticed (that may not really have anything to do with anything) is how in the 80s and 90s there were several popular TV shows starring predominantly black casts and that doesn't seem to be much of a thing anymore. There also seem to be fewer big name black actors and actresses. I wonder why that is?

One side may say that it's because society's tastes or at least those in creative decisions have shifted away from accepting and liking black people. Another side may say it's because content creators feel like their portrayal of black characters will fall under greater scrutiny and outrage (eg this, http://wearyourvoicemag.com/more/en...he-new-black-trauma-porn-written-white-people as a fan of the show I totally disagree with most of the points raised) and thus shy away from it. Who really knows.. I'd love to see the reflection of someone in the industry.