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Why Google Glass will fail with consumers

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Skyclad1uhm1

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Just wait till Apple steals the idea. Then the same people who now say it will never be a success will be first in line to buy one and will be claiming that it was Apple's idea all along and that Google stole it.
 

mnewsham

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To be perfectly honest everyone saying you will look like a lovely human or anything like that just needs to shut up, if you can't see how useful something like this could be in not only academic or scientific settings let alone in your daily life you are not trying hard enough.


The article is really stupid, the only real reason they give is google doesn't know how people work (lol okay)
And that it brings mistrust, well first off most people wouldn't even know what it is, and secondly if someone really wanted to video tape you or stalk you they could and whether or not they use their google glass or their laptop and spy cam its gonna happen. In 5-15 years if this does manage to take off in any significant way it will only get smaller and better.

I for one think google might have something here.
 

Imp

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I can't help but feel that people are gonna be punched, especially by cops, because they think they're being recorded.
 

mnewsham

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I can't help but feel that people are gonna be punched, especially by cops, because they think they're being recorded.

If you punch someone because you think they are recording you, you're an idiot, assault is fairly serious.
 

MaxPayne63

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I can't help but feel that people are gonna be punched, especially by cops, because they think they're being recorded.

I dunno if the cops here are still trained well enough to land a blow on anyone that isn't already in a fetal position. They're more likely to get tazed.
 

amyklai

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I don't get how everybody thinks that the picture / video taping part is the same as with smart phones.

With smart phones, I can actually tell when somebody's taking a photo of me, or recording a video. They need to pull the smart phone out and point it in my direction. I know what's going on.

With Google Glass, there's no way to know if the person who's wearing it is actually filming me right now. Which means that every time somebody wearing Google Glass is around, youre potentially getting videotaped without knowing it. To me, that's a BIG difference and would most certainly change the way I'd behave around people wearing Google Glass.

Which is why I think Google Glass sucks, big time.

It's basically the Web 2.0 / social media version of Orwell's 1983. If / when enough people use it, there's practically no unmonitored place left on earth. Thank you Google, great idea.
 

gorcorps

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I don't get how everybody thinks that the picture / video taping part is the same as with smart phones.

With smart phones, I can actually tell when somebody's taking a photo of me, or recording a video. They need to pull the smart phone out and point it in my direction. I know what's going on.

With Google Glass, there's no way to know if the person who's wearing it is actually filming me right now. Which means that every time somebody wearing Google Glass is around, youre potentially getting videotaped without knowing it. To me, that's a BIG difference and would most certainly change the way I'd behave around people wearing Google Glass.

Which is why I think Google Glass sucks, big time.

It's basically the Web 2.0 / social media version of Orwell's 1983. If / when enough people use it, there's practically no unmonitored place left on earth. Thank you Google, great idea.

I didn't know Orwell made a prequel to his very popular 1984. Does 1983 hold a candle to the original?
 

Red Storm

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I don't get how everybody thinks that the picture / video taping part is the same as with smart phones.

With smart phones, I can actually tell when somebody's taking a photo of me, or recording a video. They need to pull the smart phone out and point it in my direction. I know what's going on.

With Google Glass, there's no way to know if the person who's wearing it is actually filming me right now. Which means that every time somebody wearing Google Glass is around, youre potentially getting videotaped without knowing it. To me, that's a BIG difference and would most certainly change the way I'd behave around people wearing Google Glass.

Which is why I think Google Glass sucks, big time.

It's basically the Web 2.0 / social media version of Orwell's 1983. If / when enough people use it, there's practically no unmonitored place left on earth. Thank you Google, great idea.

In this thread, we find out who does and doesn't know that hidden cameras have already been in use for many many years.
 

amyklai

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In this thread, we find out who does and doesn't know that hidden cameras have already been in use for many many years.

You've got hidden cameras installed everywhere (including places like private homes, bars, pubs etc)? What kind of police state do you live in?
 

zerocool84

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I don't get how everybody thinks that the picture / video taping part is the same as with smart phones.

With smart phones, I can actually tell when somebody's taking a photo of me, or recording a video. They need to pull the smart phone out and point it in my direction. I know what's going on.

With Google Glass, there's no way to know if the person who's wearing it is actually filming me right now. Which means that every time somebody wearing Google Glass is around, youre potentially getting videotaped without knowing it. To me, that's a BIG difference and would most certainly change the way I'd behave around people wearing Google Glass.

Which is why I think Google Glass sucks, big time.

It's basically the Web 2.0 / social media version of Orwell's 1983. If / when enough people use it, there's practically no unmonitored place left on earth. Thank you Google, great idea.

This isn't Google's idea, they're improving on something that's been tried many times.
 

amyklai

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This isn't Google's idea, they're improving on something that's been tried many times.

So which other company has tried to put a video recorder that's potentially always on without other people knowing it (and on top of that has the ability to immediately upload it to public internet sites) on peoples faces and sell it to millions of consumers? I can't think of any.
 

mnewsham

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I've come to terms with the fact that by the time I'm 30 everything will be under servalence anyway, might as well embrace it.
 

WelshBloke

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So which other company has tried to put a video recorder that's potentially always on without other people knowing it (and on top of that has the ability to immediately upload it to public internet sites) on peoples faces and sell it to millions of consumers? I can't think of any.

:confused: You do realise that the video recorder is not the most (or even particularly) innovative part of Google Glass?
 

WelshBloke

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I don't get how everybody thinks that the picture / video taping part is the same as with smart phones.

With smart phones, I can actually tell when somebody's taking a photo of me, or recording a video. They need to pull the smart phone out and point it in my direction. I know what's going on.

With Google Glass, there's no way to know if the person who's wearing it is actually filming me right now. Which means that every time somebody wearing Google Glass is around, youre potentially getting videotaped without knowing it. To me, that's a BIG difference and would most certainly change the way I'd behave around people wearing Google Glass.

Which is why I think Google Glass sucks, big time.

It's basically the Web 2.0 / social media version of Orwell's 1983. If / when enough people use it, there's practically no unmonitored place left on earth. Thank you Google, great idea.

Just out of interest what would you change in your behaviour and why?
 

mnewsham

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Most things I do in public I'd be fine being recorded, I leave private conversations to when I'm in a private area anyway.
 

BoberFett

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About this, I can see the professional uses for this product, but essentially zero consumer use.

IBM thought the world would never need more than two or three computers.

How about while shopping? Every product you look at automatically pulls up price ranges for that same product, or suggests alternate products that are cheaper or on sale.

While walking around in unfamiliar areas, they could highlight points of interest automatically, provide directions, etc. without having to stare at and interact with your phone.

This kind of tech will eventually supplant a lot of what phones currently do, but it could end up being far more seamless than the clumsy interface on smartphones.
 

amyklai

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Most things I do in public I'd be fine being recorded, I leave private conversations to when I'm in a private area anyway.

You do realize that this type of "private area for private conversations" would shrink considerably once 20%-30% of people walk around with Google Glass, don't you? Say, you're talking with a bunch of people in a pub or at a party and one or two of them are wearing Glass. Is that still a private conversation or will it end up on youtube? How do you know?
 
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WelshBloke

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Yeah, but it's the part that infringes on other's privacy.

If youre out in public you shouldn't really have much expectation of privacy anyway. If I decide to whip out my camera and take pictures of you there's not a lot you can do about it.

You do realize that this type of "private area for private conversations" would shrink considerably once 20%-30% of people walk around with Google Glass, don't you? Say, you're talking with a bunch of people in a pub or at a party and one or two of them are wearing Glass. Is that still a private conversation? How do you know?

If your having a private conversation with someone wearing a set you could either check that the red recording light wasn't on or ask them to take them off.
 

amyklai

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If youre out in public you shouldn't really have much expectation of privacy anyway. If I decide to whip out my camera and take pictures of you there's not a lot you can do about it.

Yeah, sure. But if we're sitting in a pub and you take out your camera, hold it in front of you and start videotaping the conversation that's taking place around you, everybody will easily notice it. With Glass, the situation is much different, because you can't really tell wether they're videotaping you or not.



If your having a private conversation with someone wearing a set you could either check that the red recording light wasn't on or ask them to take them off.
The red light is just one jailbreak away from not being on while recording. And having to tell everybody to take of Glass is changing the situation a lot - say you walk up to 5 people of whom you know two and two others are wearing Glass, say hello and sit down to drink a beer with them. With Glass, you first have to ask the other 2 guys to take that freaking video recorder from their noses before you can be sure that the following conversation won't end up on facebook. That's a much different situation to what we have now with smartphones.
 

gorcorps

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Yeah, sure. But if we're sitting in a pub and you take out your camera, hold it in front of you and start videotaping the conversation that's taking place around you, everybody will easily notice it. With Glass, the situation is much different, because you can't really tell wether they're videotaping you or not.




The red light is just one jailbreak away from not being on while recording. And having to tell everybody to take of Glass is changing the situation a lot - say you walk up to 5 people of whom you know two and two others are wearing Glass, say hello and sit down to drink a beer with them. With Glass, you first have to ask the other 2 guys to take that freaking video recorder from their noses before you can be sure that the following conversation won't end up on facebook. That's a much different situation to what we have now with smartphones.

How is it different? There's nothing that's stopping people from recording stuff on their phones as it stands now. Voice recorders are on every single phone, and there's no indication they're running.
 

mnewsham

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It's already like what you're describing, when I'm in the pub having a conversation I fully expect to be overheard so I don't hold conversations about how much weed I've got in my pocket or the fact that I enjoy B cups more than a DD.
It's common sense in today's world.
 

amyklai

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How is it different? There's nothing that's stopping people from recording stuff on their phones as it stands now. Voice recorders are on every single phone, and there's no indication they're running.

It's not different? With Glass, everybody who has one is basically ready to start recording audio + video at any time without much indication of it. Sure you can do some of that today, but with much less ease. Even audiotaping is more difficult - if I'm in a noisy bar and talk to the person next to me, the smartphone in the pocket or even on the bar / table won't record much of what is said. With Glass, basically everything that reaches the ear reaches Glass.

Imagine walking in some room and 20-30% of the people holding their smartphones up at all times, ready to start videotaping. That's permanent reality when 20-30% use Glass.
 

WelshBloke

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...The red light is just one jailbreak away from not being on while recording. And having to tell everybody to take of Glass is changing the situation a lot - say you walk up to 5 people of whom you know two and two others are wearing Glass, say hello and sit down to drink a beer with them. With Glass, you first have to ask the other 2 guys to take that freaking video recorder from their noses before you can be sure that the following conversation won't end up on facebook. That's a much different situation to what we have now with smartphones.

I'm still curious as to what you would be saying to two strangers that you are worried about having recorded.