Why go with SM3.0 today?

[BFG10K]

Regarding Doom 3, I'd be extremely surprised if NV1x hardware could render the heat/shimmer/haze distortions like genuine shader based cards can.

 

[BFG10K]

It is a developer chosen enhancement,

And?

Traditionally, developers don't care that much about performance

So the developers don't care about IQ or performance, only features? I think you've got that a bit wrong.

At this stage I quite honestly find the free performance gains from SM 3.0 far more appealing than the IQ enhancements that cause performance to tank. If developers really didn't care about performance they wouldn't be releasing game patches that do nothing more than increase performance via SM 3.0.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: Pete
hans and Greg, please read (and preferably understand) my posts before calling people idiots or clueless. With that, I'm done posting in this thread, as it's just not worth arguing with (IMO) illogical sophists. I'm just going to stop in to see if Rev got back to me re: Doom 3 (am I slightly or totally wrong?).

I didn't call you either an idiot or clueless Pete, I only asked why you posted what you did.

 

[BrokenVisage]

SM3.0 is not worth it!!!

*bump to fuel the fire*

 

[Drayvn]

Originally posted by: housecat

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
For most people, this argument is irrelevant.

1. Most people still own hardware that's too old/slow to wonder about SM2b vs SM3, or soft shadows and HDR.

2. For the people who actually bought X800s it's sort of a moot point. You don't get to see this stuff, arguing about whether you need it is only rationalization of your purchase.

3. For those who bought nV40s (preferably SLI), you get to see all the games as the developers hoped, so all you have to discuss is whether you personally prefer the features on or off. In any case, you're set.

4. For those who bought nV40s (especially SLI), arguing about whether you need it is only rationalization of your purchase.

Don't be a baby.

Creig, we arent the ones downplaying anything. We're saying SM3 is something that everyone should be "going with" today. No reason NOT too.
Besides the constant DOUBTS for future performance of mainly a performance enhancing feature-set!

For Radeon users, there is this big question: "DO I GO SM3 OR DO I NOT? IS IT TOO EARLY FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY???"

Geforce6 users dont have to question anything, we can match or beat any Radeon product in performance and have SM3, a part of DX9C, regardless if its Microsofts biggest failure EVAH (according to you).

This is mainly a thread on SM3, which turned into a rationalization for ATI-fanboys to downplay SM3/DX9C (as usual) with their best efforts possible.. which even reduced again and again into saving $50 on Radeon instead of going with the latest standards.

Don't have that beef lo mein tonight and skip the latest McBain action flic, and you too shall have Shader Model 3!

What about 3DC, wasnt all the nVidia guys saying that 3DC is a worthless feature.

Oh wait, all the devs want to use it and now nVidia are implementing it in their new cards.

And oh yea, ATi developed it and released it for free for anyone to use!

 

[imported_Noob]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
SM3.0 is not worth it!!!

*bump to fuel the fire*

It is to some who are looking ino the future. It will definitely be worth in the next generation cards.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Noob

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
SM3.0 is not worth it!!!

*bump to fuel the fire*

It is to some who are looking ino the future. It will definitely be worth in the next generation cards.

i thiink he just wanted the bonfire to burn brighter thats all

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Noob

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
SM3.0 is not worth it!!!

*bump to fuel the fire*

It is to some who are looking ino the future. It will definitely be worth in the next generation cards.

i thiink he just wanted the bonfire to burn brighter thats all

Correct. <- yet another bump