Why Fast Food critics are full of it

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fatpat268

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Do whatever it is you do for exercise , outside, hottest point of the day and you'll be like damn Z was a genius after a month. Guaranteed.

Look, you want to live like that fine.

I'll continue to do my exercise in the mornings (where's it's still hot/humid, mind you), and I'll continue to lift weights in an ACed gym. Not much will change if I decide to do all this in 90F+ heat.

Instead of being ignorant and putting people at risk of heat stroke (oh, I know your next argument, don't bother), you should be advocating people to eat healthier and smaller portions.

While what you say is true, but people aren't mysteriously fat because their house is climate controlled to 75F, it's because these people sit on their ass all day and eat junk.
 

nerp

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We grab FF occasionally when neither feels like cooking and I've always liked me a Big Mac, just seems most of the employees around here are dumb, lazy or just don't give a crap about the product. Here's another story, I had a Carrabba's $50 gift card laying around since X-mas so week of the 4th we decide to get curbside take-out. Go to place my order and get told "sorry, we're out of lasagna"...I'm like WTF how in the hell does an Italian restaurant run out of lasagna at 6:30??. "our prep crew only makes a certain amount and then goes home, if that runs out there is no more sir.." Wow, I didn't know that lasagna was so difficult to make that not one person working in the PM could get some made up, just more idioitic bullshit I come across nowadays..

You can't just "slap together" some lasagna. Unless you were willing to sit there for three hours for your dinner. . .
 

nerp

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True, which is why you keep a prep person around, if you see the lasagna selling briskly you get another pan in the oven well before you run out. To me it's like going to Outback and being told "sorry, we're out of prime rib, we didn't cook enough" F-ing lame IMO..

Have you ever worked in the foodservice industry? Just curious.
 

rockyct

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I do like Penn and Teller and their show, but I would like to see more statistics as to how around 20-40 people rated that food, not just half a dozen, and to see all of the results. There's no way we can tell how many people they did this test with. There are a lot of idiots influenced heavily based on what is popular or what a popular idea is.

There is a difference in the taste of water based on if it's tap and where the tap water is (the tap water in NY where they filmed is actually quite good), if it's been filtered with a brita, RO filtered, bottled with minerals added, etc. All that episode showed was how effective marketing is and that when people believe water was bottled from the Swiss Alps, it tastes good, because they have been told it tastes good.

This episode showed that many people have bought into the idea of all fast food being disgusting, stale, and unhealthy. Whereas sit down restaurants with healthy buzzwords in their name have great food that's very healthy for you. Those people not being able to tell shows that conventional wisdom and product marketing have a huge influence on their opinions.

It is bullshit to try to ban fast food and I'm not really sure who is seriously trying to do that other than a couple of towns full of pretentious idiots. It is good that restaurants now provide the nutrition facts at the actual table. That kind of regulation is good as it provides at least a quick way to get an idea of the healthiness of food before you order. I wish that had been their point instead of "don't ban fast food." Some new ideas of regulation to encourage healthy eating can be good, but considering how libertarian Penn is I doubt he'd be ok with it.
 
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What I think is most interesting is that the people correctly estimated the fast food calories and underestimates when they thought it was healthy. I would have expected opposite results - close to correct estimates for a sit-down restaurant and over-estimates for fast food. However this could have been influenced by what they were actually eating - I've never heard of a 900 calorie salad, that kind of crap doesn't get served in any restaurant around here.

For "normal" fast food people often tend to overestimate the calories because they "know" that fast food is bad for you, which isn't necessarily true.
 

rockyct

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What I think is most interesting is that the people correctly estimated the fast food calories and underestimates when they thought it was healthy. I would have expected opposite results - close to correct estimates for a sit-down restaurant and over-estimates for fast food. However this could have been influenced by what they were actually eating - I've never heard of a 900 calorie salad, that kind of crap doesn't get served in any restaurant around here.

For "normal" fast food people often tend to overestimate the calories because they "know" that fast food is bad for you, which isn't necessarily true.
The main problem with that salad was the shell. Take away that shell and it's probably a pretty healthy meal. The shell is basically a big flour tortilla deep fried. It's hard to tell what else was on there but refried beans and the dressing can have a lot of calories as well.