Why dumb people should not vote - Washington votes no to GMO labeling

[Texashiker]

You wanting to force a label on GMO foods after being told the uselessness of it and how much it would cripple that market isn't against it?

Okay, wow.

Why do we have labels on anything?

There is no difference in a pair of shoes made in china and a pair made in mexico. So why label them?

Surely putting labels on products made in china will make people think before supporting a communist government?

The truth is, the majority of people do not care.

But those that do care should have the right to make a choice.

 

[nehalem256]

The only reason the well has been poisoned is because the industry has been a poor steward of the brand. If luddite hippies can beat you at message delivery you are doing it wrong.

45% of Americans believe the world is less than 10,000 years old

 

[Moonbeam]

I mean like when a company who doesn't use GMO begins to advertise, and consumers educate themselves on any sort of perceived risks of using GMOs, and begin to buy that product.

Then when GMO producers begin to advertise that they DON'T use GMO in order to falsely gain market share, get caught by educated and concerned consumers. The word gets out, and their advertising loses all traction.

You don't need laws to ban the sale of snake oil or any similarly false claims, you just need time.

Let the market do its work, instead of sending lots of money to politicians so concerned with our well-being that they are willing to launch an agency aimed solely at verifying manufacturer's claims. Let the market work.

That reminds me of a saying. The victim died of snake bite before the anti-venom arrived from Iraq.

But I like your attitude and your faith. You have your own immunity.

 

[glenn1]

I have not said a single word against gmo foods.

If anything, you are the intolerant one for not wanting truth in labeling.

You seem unable to distinguish why "truth" is different than relevance. I guess the terrified tinfoil hat wearers like you will just have to keep raging against the machine of a populace that doesn't give the slightest shit about your hurt feelings on how we're denying you the "right to know where your food comes from." It's OK to be a crank, just don't go Unabomber on us.

 

[Texashiker]

It's OK to be a crank, just don't go Unabomber on us.

Stay out of this thread then.

This is not about monsanto, or the safety of gmo foods.

This is about consumers having a choice.

 

[glenn1]

This is about consumers having a choice.

 

[DominionSeraph]

A republic only works when we have an educated voting populace.

And how is letting your ignorant fears dictate how you view the world, "educated?"

This issue is above you. So yes, instead of being a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. Another ignorant voter, and you are too dumb to know it.

 

[Texashiker]

This issue is above you.

Labeling food, and allowing the the consumer to have a choice is above me???

That is laughable.

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Next time you buy shoes or clothes, do not look at the labels, or colors, or even the sizes. Just go grab something off the rack and buy it.

Because putting labels on stuff is nothing more than fear mongering.

 

[nehalem256]

Labeling food, and allowing the the consumer to have a choice is above me???

That is laughable.

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Next time you buy shoes or clothes, do not look at the labels, or colors, or even the sizes. Just go grab something off the rack and buy it.

Because putting labels on stuff is nothing more than fear mongering.

Consumers in Washington voted and decided that labeling GMO was a stupid labeling requirement.

I wonder why they decided it was different than labeling the size of shoes?^_^

 

[Texashiker]

Consumers in Washington voted and decided that labeling GMO was a stupid labeling requirement.

You do realize most of the people were for food labeling to start with.

For around every million spent in advertising bought about 1 percent of the vote.

In the end, the people were swayed by advertising.

Just like people were conned into approving the income tax, voters are easily swayed.

 

[Moonbeam]

With the possibility of cross pollination how can you be sure your food doesn't contain a certain percentage of GMO origin?

If it contains a certain percentage the farmer will be sued.

 

[xBiffx]

Why do we have labels on anything?

There is no difference in a pair of shoes made in china and a pair made in mexico. So why label them?

Surely putting labels on products made in china will make people think before supporting a communist government?

The truth is, the majority of people do not care.

But those that do care should have the right to make a choice.

Made in (insert country) labels are a requirement because of import/export laws and have nothing to do with consumer information. That is a side benefit to a consumer that is conscious about where the products are coming from. Its comparison to this topic is irrelevant.

Now, if manufacturers want to choose to put a label on their product letting a consumer know something, that is up to them. They may do so because they think it will get them an extra bit of marketing and convince a consumer to purchase their produce. That's fine, but again, that isn't what you are talking about. You want to require a label that has no information with regards to the utility of said product. It is strictly there for appeasement, nothing else. There is zero reason to make that label a requirement. If manufactures want to divulge that information for whatever reason, that is up to them, but to require that is an overreach of authority and also harmful to that industry due to cost reasons.

You keep saying choice. You still have and always will have a choice. Don't see the label you want or the information you are interested in, don't buy the product. Simple as that.

 

[nehalem256]

You do realize most of the people were for food labeling to start with.

For around every million spent in advertising bought about 1 percent of the vote.

In the end, the people were swayed by advertising.

Just like people were conned into approving the income tax, voters are easily swayed.

So in other words once they learned about the issue the issue they thought GMO labeling was stupid.

 

[Texashiker]

Made in (insert country) labels are a requirement because of import/export laws and have nothing to do with consumer information.

Dont you like knowing where your food came from?

That is a side benefit to a consumer that is conscious about where the products are coming from. Its comparison to this topic is irrelevant.

I think it is relevant.

You keep saying choice. You still have and always will have a choice. Don't see the label you want or the information you are interested in, don't buy the product. Simple as that.

There are 2 or 3 brands of corn on the shelf, which one do I buy?

Having the gmo label would help me determine which one.

So in other words once they learned about the issue the issue they thought GMO labeling was stupid.

Gullible people should not be voting.

Its like obama telling people they would be able to keep their health insurance, and that health insurance was going to cost as much as a cell phone bill.

 

[OverVolt]

Basic human right garbage thread ftfl.

This would have been nothing more than a complete waste of money as knowing this information changes nothing about the content of the food or its effect on you.

Potato chips cooked in GMO corn oil are no more harmful than ones that are cooked in non GMO corn oil. Hell the fact that a person eating potato chips is worried about adverse effects of their ingredients or what they are cooked in is completely fucking laughable.

Currently ingredients are listed on all foods. No mention of where they come from. Why? Because it doesn't change anything. There is nothing significant about where those ingredients come from with respect to the nutritional value or health concerns for that food.

Hell a tomato on the east coast and a tomato on the west coast will have different levels of vitamins and minerals. It does matter

 

[xBiffx]

Dont you like knowing where your food came from?

You've never known that unless you made it yourself.

I think it is relevant.

What you think really doesn't matter. This decision isn't up to you.

There are 2 or 3 brands of corn on the shelf, which one do I buy?

Having the gmo label would help me determine which one.

You still have a choice. Don't buy the one without a no GMO label. Again, quite simple.

 

[xBiffx]

Hell a tomato on the east coast and a tomato on the west coast will have different levels of vitamins and minerals. It does matter

Not to mention one is 3 hours older.

 

[OverVolt]

I'd be curious if it tasted different. Probably not but maybe?

 

[nehalem256]

There are 2 or 3 brands of corn on the shelf, which one do I buy?

Having the gmo label would help me determine which one.

Why would it help you determine which one?

As I have said before, I am not anti-gmo.

Gullible people should not be voting.

Its like obama telling people they would be able to keep their health insurance, and that health insurance was going to cost as much as a cell phone bill.

Why do you assume they are gullible? Why is it irrational to assume that the people of Washington decided that there was no difference between GMO and non-GMO and therefore it was pointless to have it on the package?

 

[momeNt]

That reminds me of a saying. The victim died of snake bite before the anti-venom arrived from Iraq.

But I like your attitude and your faith. You have your own immunity.

It has nothing to do with attitude or faith. It has to do with a very basic understanding of fundamental economic principles that drive product sales.

If you want to back out of the discussion by mumbling some gibberish about snakebites feel free though.

 

[BoberFett]

Each kernel of corn should be tracked via RFID. It's my right as a consumer to scan a box of cereal and know which field it was grown in. I don't want any corn grown by some right winger with his corporate frankenseed. I want good old fashioned liberal corn.

 

[ThinClient]

lol...

 

[Texashiker]

Yawn, I am starting to get bored with this discussion.

None of yall should read food labels ever again. So what if that mystery meat is made from baby seals who have been clubbed to death.

Labeling food is fear mongering.

So what if muslims and jews do not want to buy pork. Just wrap the meat up and slap a white label on it.

If some muslim or jew stands up and says they do not want to buy pork, that is ok.

If someone does not want to buy gmo, then they are fear mongering.

 

[ThinClient]

Yawn, I am starting to get bored with this discussion.

None of yall should read food labels ever again. So what if that mystery meat is made from baby seals who have been clubbed to death.

Labeling food is fear mongering.

So what if muslims and jews do not want to buy pork. Just wrap the meat up and slap a white label on it.

If some muslim or jew stands up and says they do not want to buy pork, that is ok.

If someone does not want to buy gmo, then they are fear mongering.

Your mindless sensationalism and strawman arguments aren't fooling anyone. If you don't like the discussion, leave the thread. Nobody gives a shit about your last-ditch effort to insult everyone participating in it.

 

[Texashiker]

Your mindless sensationalism and strawman arguments aren't fooling anyone. If you don't like the discussion, leave the thread. Nobody gives a shit about your last-ditch effort to insult everyone participating in it.

Dont you ever read a food label again.

Because labeling is fear mongering.

So what if pork is sold to muslims? Saying they do not want to buy pork is ignorant. The same goes for jews. They should stop their fear mongering.

So what is that nice steak is horse meat. Having to label beef, pork, horse,,, is fear mongering.