why don't we make people work for unemployment checks

nakedfrog

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Unemployment checks are paid by unemployment insurance, and you usually have to prove you're looking for a job to get them.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.
 

AMDZen

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I'm assuming community service and the like? They probably should have to in some situations, I think
 

Newbian

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Originally posted by: JoPh
then it wouldnt be called unemployment.......

Stop posting the obvious answer and instead post a rude comment.

Learn the way of atot. ;)
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If they were working they wouldn't be able to look for work.

15 - 20 hours per week seems reasonable. You can knock that out in 2-3 days then have the rest of the week for job search.

one of my tenants was laid off 2 months ago. He's been riding the unemployment gravy train for 2 months. been on 1 interview. If he was doing 15-20 hours of mandatory volunteer work he'd prob have more incentive not to be such a degenerate.
 

edro

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I agree!
All unemployment people should have to work >10 hours of community service a week.
All welfare people should have to work >20 hours of community service a week.

Oh wait... Obama is president.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

Agreed. Same with welfare as well.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

That's great. People who worked hard and through no fault of their own lost their jobs and have to search for job after job are being called leaches....

edit: As a side note, I think people on welfare need to do some damn work instead of making more kids to get more money. Those are the leaches.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

I believe you're thinking of welfare, not unemployment.
This thread is stupid.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If they were working they wouldn't be able to look for work.

15 - 20 hours per week seems reasonable. You can knock that out in 2-3 days then have the rest of the week for job search.

one of my tenants was laid off 2 months ago. He's been riding the unemployment gravy train for 2 months. been on 1 interview. If he was doing 15-20 hours of mandatory volunteer work he'd prob have more incentive not to be such a degenerate.

You spend too much time caring about what other people are doing.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

That's great. People who worked hard and through no fault of their own lost their jobs and have to search for job after job are being called leeches....

yeah whats the problem?
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If they were working they wouldn't be able to look for work.

15 - 20 hours per week seems reasonable. You can knock that out in 2-3 days then have the rest of the week for job search.

one of my tenants was laid off 2 months ago. He's been riding the unemployment gravy train for 2 months. been on 1 interview. If he was doing 15-20 hours of mandatory volunteer work he'd prob have more incentive not to be such a degenerate.

You spend too much time caring about what other people are doing.

when its my money yeah.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If they were working they wouldn't be able to look for work.

15 - 20 hours per week seems reasonable. You can knock that out in 2-3 days then have the rest of the week for job search.

one of my tenants was laid off 2 months ago. He's been riding the unemployment gravy train for 2 months. been on 1 interview. If he was doing 15-20 hours of mandatory volunteer work he'd prob have more incentive not to be such a degenerate.

You spend too much time caring about what other people are doing.

when its my money yeah.

You're paying him directly? :confused:
 

Q

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

No bad idea, but real question is would YOU do 15-20 hrs / week of community service? I think I wouldn't want to, TBH
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

Conceptually, what you are suggesting it not a bad idea, but it gets really complicated. One general issue is that doing community service will add to their expenses. For example, how will they get to the location to do the service? Most likely it will be by vehicle and that means gas money.

Also, a lot of people that are unemployed have young children that are normally placed in daycare while they are at work. These daycares get very expensive. $500-$1000/mo is not unrealistic at all. However, while unemployed, they can pull their kids out of the daycares and watch them at home. That helps a lot to extend the time they got to find a job before going to into serious debt. If they had to do community service, then who would watch the kids? Some could find ways, but many could not.

Then you got the whole scheduling interviews and taking regular phone calls thing to try and get a job. That takes time and it requires availability. You are lessening that time and availability if they are out doing community service. However, that issue is a lot easier to work around so it may not need to be considered. Just understand that it exists.

I am sure the list of complications is longer too.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If they were working they wouldn't be able to look for work.

15 - 20 hours per week seems reasonable. You can knock that out in 2-3 days then have the rest of the week for job search.

one of my tenants was laid off 2 months ago. He's been riding the unemployment gravy train for 2 months. been on 1 interview. If he was doing 15-20 hours of mandatory volunteer work he'd prob have more incentive not to be such a degenerate.

You spend too much time caring about what other people are doing.

when its my money yeah.

You're paying him directly? :confused:

never mind this is too complicated for you.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

That's great. People who worked hard and through no fault of their own lost their jobs and have to search for job after job are being called leeches....

yeah whats the problem?

Maybe you should figure out how unemployment works, otherwise you just come off sounding foolish.

We pay into Unemployment Insurance, and as much as I've paid into it if I ever did need it I'd be more than entitled to it.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Work to do what exactly?

community service. 15-20 hours a week. Something so they can still search for other jobs but aren't being total leeches on society.

No bad idea, but real question is would YOU do 15-20 hrs / week of community service? I think I wouldn't want to, TBH

if you don't do it you don't get your check. pretty simple incentive there. If my options were volunteer and eat or do nothing and starve the choice is simple for me.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If they were working they wouldn't be able to look for work.

15 - 20 hours per week seems reasonable. You can knock that out in 2-3 days then have the rest of the week for job search.

one of my tenants was laid off 2 months ago. He's been riding the unemployment gravy train for 2 months. been on 1 interview. If he was doing 15-20 hours of mandatory volunteer work he'd prob have more incentive not to be such a degenerate.

You spend too much time caring about what other people are doing.

when its my money yeah.

You're cutting checks?