Why does Steve Job purposely lie at all his events?

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Ns1

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"in volume"


I have never seen any other tablet on the street besides the iPad.

I dont' even know what the fuck a xoom or tab looks like. A Dell streak 7? What the fuck is that?
 
speg

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Yeah, LOL at the streak volume. Once you're putting out 10 million units we can talkvabout volume.

The rest was just playing with numbers, as with any analysis is usually spun pretty hard.

The quote though, that wasn't nice.
 
Phokus

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http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/10/19/why-does-android-have-steve-jobs-rattled/

More Steve lies:

Moving on, what about the comments Jobs made on Android development about TwitterDeck [sic] and "fragmentation"?

Twitter client, Twitter Deck, recently launched their app for Android. They reported that they had to contend with more than 100 different versions of Android software on 244 different handsets. The multiple hardware and software iterations present developers with a daunting challenge. Many Android apps work only on selected Android handsets running selected Android versions. And this is for handsets that have been shipped less than 12 months ago. Compare this with iPhone, where there are two versions of the software, the current and the most recent predecessor to test against.

Not so fast says TweetDeck CEO Iain Dodsworth who responded via Twitter, disputing Jobs' claims that Android development was 'daunting.'

Did we at any point say it was a nightmare developing on Android? Errr nope, no we didn't. It wasn't.

He followed up later saying that TweetDeck only utilized only two developers ...

We only have 2 guys developing on Android TweetDeck so that shows how small an issue fragmentation is.
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Phokus

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speg said:
Yeah, LOL at the streak volume. Once you're putting out 10 million units we can talkvabout volume.

The rest was just playing with numbers, as with any analysis is usually spun pretty hard.

The quote though, that wasn't nice.
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Who gets to define what 'volume' is? And besides that, he's going to start looking like a moron when Android Tablets start chipping away at the Ipads and overtakes their market share like the android phone did to the iphone... sooner or later.
 
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Even better... if one has a question about what a Dell Streak 7 is, one would think to instantly go to Dell's website, because it's not like Dell is an internet vendor in their own right or anything.
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I didn't have to go to the apple website to figure out ipad2 was being released.


shit I was the biggest iPad1 hater but I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on iPad2
 
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Phokus said:
Who gets to define what 'volume' is?
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Whoever is making the statement does. It's like everything else with assumptions listed in the fine print. Same thing with the 90% market share. If you assume the market is just iPads + Tabs, you get the results you want. If you assume a different a different market, you'll get a different result. Anyone marketing their product is going to make assumptions that shed the best light on what they're selling, I don't think that's unique to Jobs or Apple.
 
zerocool84

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This is nothing new and one of the biggest reasons why I hate Apple is because of Steve Jobs. He's the biggest douche of them all. Almost never tells the truth and has even told his own customers that they are dumb and don't know how to use their devices and he told them how to use them the correct way.
 
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The amount of hate some of you have for someone who you have never even met before is hilarious.

Its not surprising when it comes to Phokus, he has a lot of hate in his heart that he just had to get out. Usually its referring to republicans or steve jobs.

This article isnt exactly straightforward and 100% true either. Who the hell considers a kindle a tablet? Or a nook? (Yes I know you can root it, but at its core it is *NOT* a tablet, its an e-reader)
 
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One of the less known facts during the keynote, perhaps... due to people nitpicking on Jobs' "lies" are these facts:

They wrote "dual-core processors". If it's just the CPU, it should just be "dual-core CPU" or "dual-core processor". "Processors" is a plural word, which implies that there is more than one processor that is dual-core in the A5.
First "dual-core tablet", didn't say "tablet with dual-core CPU". Big difference. Unless the person who wrote that slide was illiterate, I don't suppose you'd realize that the Apple A5 chip has a dual-core CPU and a dual-core GPU.

If Apple wants to say it's the first table with a dual-core GPU, then that's as true as it can get.

So bottom line... he didn't lie with that. He just didn't say everything. Just like Apple never said anything about how much RAM their devices had until people tore those devices down.

And the Samsung VP?

I'd excuse the fact that he is Asian and that his English might not be good enough, but honestly:

"As you heard, our sell-in was quite aggressive... around two million. In terms of sell-out, we believe it was quite smooth."

...Again, please PLEASE explain to me how a number can be "smooth".

That "re-translation" caused enough controversy as it did when the "mis-quote" itself ran on blogs and magazines. Why is it that suddenly Jobs is the liar and the VP of Samsung is such an honest person?

And big note: "small" and "smooth" aren't even pronounced any closer to mix up even if the person doesn't speak English as his mother tongue.

Not taking sides. I won't deny Jobs lied, but it wasn't like Samsung or any other corporate was innocent. At the end of the day, it's not who lied, but how you are being ripped off by corporate, and based on pricing, Apple is ripping people off LESS.
 
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runawayprisoner said:
One of the less known facts during the keynote, perhaps... due to people nitpicking on Jobs' "lies" are these facts:

They wrote "dual-core processors". If it's just the CPU, it should just be "dual-core CPU" or "dual-core processor". "Processors" is a plural word, which implies that there is more than one processor that is dual-core in the A5.
First "dual-core tablet", didn't say "tablet with dual-core CPU". Big difference. Unless the person who wrote that slide was illiterate, I don't suppose you'd realize that the Apple A5 chip has a dual-core CPU and a dual-core GPU.
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Um....
The PowerVR SGX543MP is multi core.
 
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Yes, it is multi-core. But how many.

It can be SGX543MP2, SGX543MP4, all the way to SGX543MP16, with 16 cores...

I'm only taking a hint from the slide that says "dual-core processors" to establish that the other "processor" must be the GPU. Otherwise, it's really unclear how many cores that GPU has, or what its actual model is.
 
DivideBYZero

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Who fucking cares? Let him say whatever he likes and whoever dislikes it can sue him, if they have a case.
 
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well now i'm going to take the ipad that i have enjoyed using everday since i purchased it and throw it in the trash :rolleyes:
 
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Ns1 said:
I know the samsung tab is on sale too. As far as I know they're all still sitting on best buy's shelves cuz I've never seen one out in the wild.
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Look harder, I've seen one, once...
 
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