Why does DeVry suck? ~Links and Stats inside~

[ed21x]

It's not really the quality of the education, more or less the students that go there. And it really is the student that makes the school, so a school with a good name reflects how selective they were, and thus how good their students are in that they were chosen from the crop as the best and brightest.

 

[DSM4g63]

I'm currently a DeVry student at the Seattle Campus
I just finished my 2nd term and I really dislike the school.

So far, I have had maybe 2 decent teachers. The coursework is like high school so far. I almost dropped out to goto community college because I disliked it so much at one point, but i decided to stick it through because I had too much money invested in my tuition. Overall i'm gonna be in debt about 50 grand when i graduate with my computer information systems degree (basically programming/database engineer).

The Academics and Student services offices are full of the dumbest people i have ever met. I had to goto Academics three times to keep on asking them to take me off remedial on my math scores because they farked up when entering my scores.

The dropout rate is 50% or higher, depending on the course. I estimate my graduating class to be about 10 people.. pretty sad huh?
If i could go back i would have tried a little harder in high school and gone to UW or WWU and felt like my money wasnt being wasted.

The recruiters are all lying sacks of crap, promising me an internship within 6 months of starting school. Boasting that I would already have 2 years experience upon graduating, instead im stuck working graveyard at Fedex loading trucks, while i try to stay awake in class.

Yes, what a great time in my life right now.

 

[jaydee]

Originally posted by: edro13
For all of you who hate DeVry........ please respond to this:

I think you all agree that Purdue is a well known and respectable school.

DeVry Computer Engineering Technology: 153 Credit Hours
Purdue BSCmpE (Computer Engineering): 125 Credit Hours

DeVry CET Cirriculum
Purdue BSCmpE Cirriculum

Also... DeVry CET Degree: $41,728 Average reported annual compensation.

After looking at the cirriculum of both, I don't see a huge difference.

Can someone explain to me how a "real" university's engineering degrees are "better".

People say CE degrees have "more Math"...... but if it has "more" of something, why does the CET degree have 28 more credit hours?

This isn't a "HAHA, in your face!" thread........ I seriously want to know what a CET degree is worth compared to a CE degree from another school. What would employers look at? Would they look down on a CET degree?

Please don't NEF or TROLL here...... This is a serious thread.

THanks!

One semester of calculus? I think you'd find most schools require 2 semesters of calculus in order to even take any engineering classes.

Besides that, as already stated the number of credits has no bearing on the difficulty of the class. At my 2-year college, I'd rather take 30 credits of lib arts, then 2 physics classes (in terms of course work).

And that average salary earned is what is reported. If you're out of work, or a "sandwich artist" at subway, I would tend to believe you are not going to report your salary in the optional alumni surveys. But that's true for any college.

Anyway, if it works for you, more power to ya.

 

[RU482]

whooly crap 50K?? I spent 2.5 yrs getting my degree in Electronics at a Community College...I think I paid like $5000 tops for the entire tuition

 

[wetwillie]

Ok, I am currently a student at DeVry. The thing about devry is they dont really screw around to much with classes. The focus is on all of your program classes, by that I mean programming if your a programmer or comp enginering if thats your thing. Other than that you only take the basics required for you bachelors.

I'll be perfectly honest with you as a third semester student (9 semesters total to get your degree)

The pros are you dont have to take bs classes which is great if you want to get done with school and get into the workforce. Also they highly stress interships there, by your 4th or 5th semester they try to get you into an intership which is crucial. Also most of the professors there know their subject, the only professors I have ever had a problem with have been a couple math profs that just didnt want to co-operate. Surprisingly all my english, scociology and profs along those lines have been excelent. They also have free tutoring which is nice.

There are cons though, DeVry isnt a party college by any means. If you want to have that whole "University experiance" then DeVry is not for you. If you do not strive to get good grades you will not make it here. The dean of my program (CIS - programming) won't give you the time of day if your pulling under a 3.0. They just really don't care about you unless you strive to succeed. It's harse but thats how this school is they don't mess around. AND DEVRY IS EXPENSIVE, when all is said and done my degree will coust round 50k.

I am being honest I'm not trying to recruit anyone or anything. Also DeVry has a stigma around it for advertising on T.V. If any of you guys took SATs or anything outta high school you should know how many silly letters you got from colleges, they all advertise DeVry is just more adamant about it. When I was picking between schools it came down to DeVry and U of Washington, the U had no interest in me as a student they just sent me a ton of letters and such and really didnt care about me (even though I did pretty good in high school like 2.9 or so gpa and like 9 extras credits and pulled a 1300+ on my sats). DeVry had a representitive (granted he was a lying sack of crap, so ask students if you want the truth) at my house the day after I submitted my application. The biggest reason I choose them was because of their intership program, thier reputation with major companies and class sizes. My average class size right now is about 20 people (Granted my school isn't full yet), which is awesome you get alot of one-on-one time with profs. Before you make any decisions on schools, research them. DeVry does have a strong rep with many companies. Oh and the reason you see alot of DeVry comercials on T.V. is because they just opened a new campus south of seattle (where I attend). So don't judge them on that silly fact. The average graduate of my program coming out of DeVry makes about 55k. I personally know a few people who after 4 years in the field are pulling in about 60-65k a year, not bad.

If you have any questions e-mail me. kb_720@msn.com my name is kit.

 

[tm37]

With A Devry Degree you can easly get a job as a junior engineer just like if you Grad from MIT.

The big difference will come years down the road. That Devry Degree will only get you so far. At my first job out ouf the navy most of the junior Engineers were back in school because they had relized that their ITT Degrees were not going to get them ahead.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

ITT/DeVry are wastes of money. I know 3 people who graduated from there (2 from DeVry, one from ITT) - one works at Eckerds, one at Office Depot, one at Staples. Great waste of money if you ask me!

 

[tcsenter]

ITT/DeVry are wastes of money. I know 3 people who graduated from there (2 from DeVry, one from ITT) - one works at Eckerds, one at Office Depot, one at Staples. Great waste of money if you ask me!

They must be retards who graduated near the bottom of their class. Or lost their jobs after the market crash.

A friend of mine graduated from ITT more than 10 years ago with an EET degree and was recruited before graduation. They paid him to get his masters at the University of Michigan.

Also, some ITT and Devry programs and/or campuses are not accredited while others are.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

1 Cal class is pathetic. We're required to go up to Adv Calculus 2 to get our EE degrees, that's Calculus 5 if you're counting.

 

[edro]

Just to clarify..... THAT DEVRY SITE I LINKED IS WRONG! We have to take 2 Calculus courses and 2 Physics courses, and all the engineering courses use the calculus that you learned.

That equals..... Probability and Statistics, Pre Calculus, Calculus I, Calculus II. That is it for "Math" classes, but Signal Processing and Communications and all those type classes are basically Calculus courses as well.

 

[StageLeft]

Make sure stats are current.

 

[Drekce]

I don't know how many times I have said this on this board. EE IS NOT THE SAME AS EET. These degrees are different. They lead to different jobs and have completely different futures. That $41,728 salary problobly won't get too much higher (in fact that is problobly not even a starting salary figure, but a figure taken from a sample of all graduates from many years, though I may be wrong), but if you are a good EE you can easily make double that after a while in the business. Trust me, if you are smart enough earn the real EE degree. It will pay off in the end.

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: Drekce
I don't know how many times I have said this on this board. EE IS NOT THE SAME AS EET. These degrees are different. They lead to different jobs and have completely different futures. That $41,728 salary problobly won't get too much higher (in fact that is problobly not even a starting salary figure, but a figure taken from a sample of all graduates from many years, though I may be wrong), but if you are a good EE you can easily make double that after a while in the business. Trust me, if you are smart enough earn the real EE degree. It will pay off in the end.

The guy i talked about in my previous post started at 40k in '98 and is now making about 65k.

All his job titles have had Engineer as a suffix i.e. Embedded Software Engineer, Hardware Engineer.

 

[everman]

The difference between a trade school like Devry and a state university etc is that at the university you are required to take general ed courses as well as your major. You'll have a more rounded education overall which is very valuable. For example, you may be good at programming, but if your writing skills suck so bad that you can't write good documentation then you're screwed.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: Drekce
I don't know how many times I have said this on this board. EE IS NOT THE SAME AS EET. These degrees are different. They lead to different jobs and have completely different futures. That $41,728 salary problobly won't get too much higher (in fact that is problobly not even a starting salary figure, but a figure taken from a sample of all graduates from many years, though I may be wrong), but if you are a good EE you can easily make double that after a while in the business. Trust me, if you are smart enough earn the real EE degree. It will pay off in the end.

The guy i talked about in my previous post started at 40k in '98 and is now making about 65k.

All his job titles have had Engineer as a suffix i.e. Embedded Software Engineer, Hardware Engineer.

Pay off in the end? It'll pay off from the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised to see an EE out of Purdue starting at $65K or higher. Definitely shouldn't take 5 years, like the guy from DeVry. (And I have a feeling he's an exception.) I know many *E majors who graduated from Big Ten schools, who make close to 6 figures only 5 or 6 years after graduating.

I guess I'm surprised at the original question: Why would someone choose go to Purdue over DeVry, when DeVry grads are starting at $41K. My answer would be: They choose Purdue, because DeVry grads only make $41K starting out. Purdue EE grads make bank, however, not everyone is Purdue material.