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Why does DeVry suck? ~Links and Stats inside~

edro

edro

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For all of you who hate DeVry........ please respond to this:

I think you all agree that Purdue is a well known and respectable school.

DeVry Computer Engineering Technology: 153 Credit Hours
Purdue BSCmpE (Computer Engineering): 125 Credit Hours

DeVry CET Cirriculum
Purdue BSCmpE Cirriculum

Also... DeVry CET Degree: $41,728 Average reported annual compensation.

After looking at the cirriculum of both, I don't see a huge difference.

Can someone explain to me how a "real" university's engineering degrees are "better".

People say CE degrees have "more Math"...... but if it has "more" of something, why does the CET degree have 28 more credit hours?

This isn't a "HAHA, in your face!" thread........ I seriously want to know what a CET degree is worth compared to a CE degree from another school. What would employers look at? Would they look down on a CET degree?

Please don't NEF or TROLL here...... This is a serious thread.

THanks!

 
I'm responding to this, but I don't hate DeVry.. I just like to make fun of it alot. Anyways....

What does DeVry CET Degree: $41,728 Average reported annual compensation mean anyways?

As for my 2 cents. All EE colleges have the same curriculum. Everyone takes 'circuit design' or 'software design'. So why goto MIT when I can goto Devry? I think the main difference is how demanding the coursework is. Some people build simple 4 bit adders, others learn how to build floating point multipliers. At the same time, at more 'good' universities, it's all really about research. If the university is famous, it'll get funding for you to look into trying new things, and working at the new edge of technology. I don't know much about Devry, so perhaps you could enlighten me more about it.

 
imo, strictly for-profit institutions are generally looked down upon, when compared to research-based institutions. i'm sure there are a multitude of reasons for this, good or bad, but that's just what i've noticed. you can argue that the expensive private schools like MIT, purdue, stanford, CMU are for-profit, but a lot of great research comes out of some of them.
 
Originally posted by: Atrail
Devry sucks!
Go to a college so you can make more money...
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Wow.... and you are intelligent enough to know how to work the internet? Morons never cease to amaze me.
 
they only take one calculus class at devry! the horror!

ps, thats where the biggest difference is going to be. devry will be a algebra based "plug & chug" curriculum. Purdue will be a calculus based "use your head and understand the theory" curriculum.

 
Originally posted by: jteef
they only take one calculus class at devry! the horror!

ps, thats where the biggest difference is going to be. devry will be a algebra based "plug & chug" curriculum. Purdue will be a calculus based "use your head and understand the theory" curriculum.
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Calculus I and Calculus II. And yes.... the plug and chug mentality is stressed at DeVry. It is used to figure out circuit design and stuffs....

Whoa..... Actually, that cirriculum link ONLY SHOWS CALC I..... WTF.... Umm... I took 2 of them.
 
Can someone explain to me how a "real" university's engineering degrees are "better".
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I said you will make more money on average with a college degree than one from a technical school.
That IMO would make it better.
Stop throwing insults...
 
I have to seriously question the worth of any institution of higher learning that needs to advertise on TBS to attract students.....kind of the same way I look at Doctors and Lawyers who advertise. Think about it.......
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
I have to seriously question the worth of any institution of higher learning that needs to advertise on TBS to attract students.....kind of the same way I look at Doctors and Lawyers who advertise. Think about it.......
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True..... but they don't get funding for free from the State or research. They have to, to make money.
 
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Why are you asking anyways? Are you in the middle of deciding between Purdue and Devry?
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No, I have 3 more classes until I graduate with a CET degree 😀 I am just curious.

 
Originally posted by: Atrail
Can someone explain to me how a "real" university's engineering degrees are "better".
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I said you will make more money on average with a college degree than one from a technical school.
That IMO would make it better.
Stop throwing insults...
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its the truth. Even though they may be DeVry University now, they are still known in industries as DeVry Institute of Technology. From what Ive heard, employers want to hire people that had a rounded and diverse college "culture". You wont find that at Devry
 
Originally posted by: edro13
For all of you who hate DeVry........ please respond to this:


People say CE degrees have "more Math"...... but if it has "more" of something, why does the CET degree have 28 more credit hours?
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As for the credit hours thing. I don't think credit hours tell much of anything. I heard stories about 'for every credit hour a class is, you spend 3 hours outside of class per week for it'. At my undergrad university, all engineering classes were 3 credits and I lost lots of sleep. The one 4 credit class I took (at my new graduate university) was a nightmare. I averaged 30 hrs/week on that sucka.....
 
yea, the whole credit system is a JOKE. as anyone who has taken engr or science classes will tell you.

anyways, edro13, the largest factor in all this is ultimately you... frankly i think someone with a degree from purdue will have an advantage over you (whether it be education or just the name), but i don't think this is something that you can't overcome, if you know your stuff. hell, my dad has a degree from a CC and he's done quite well for himself.
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
yea, the whole credit system is a JOKE. as anyone who has taken engr or science classes will tell you.

anyways, edro13, the largest factor in all this is ultimately you... frankly i think someone with a degree from purdue will have an advantage over you (whether it be education or just the name), but i don't think this is something that you can't overcome, if you know your stuff. hell, my dad has a degree from a CC and he's done quite well for himself.
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Exactly, the school you went to only holds so much weight, and the rest depends on how well you carry yourself and how good you are at whatever you do (altho, bulls!tting can get you pretty far also. I wish there was a class for that)
 
Well, not everyone goes to college to get a job.
Some go to be educated.
So, salary is not the only benchmark.
 
Originally posted by: glen
Well, not everyone goes to college to get a job.
Some go to be educated.
So, salary is not the only benchmark.
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Yeah.... I wish I could learn more stuff that I want to learn..... like Philosophy and Psychology, Art and Sociology..... Oh well.... maybe I will go to another school after I am done to get an Associates of Arts 😀
 
Why'd you choose to compare it to Purdue? Everybody knows they have the WORST course curriculum ever! 😉

<-- presently @ Purdue

-silver
 
Originally posted by: agnitrate
Why'd you choose to compare it to Purdue? Everybody knows they have the WORST course curriculum ever! 😉

<-- presently @ Purdue

-silver
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It was the first one I tried that had it's cirriculum online 😀
 
A friend of mine went to DeVry and his teachers were a retired NASA engineer who got tired of playing golf and decided to teach, he'd often bring in fellow engineers working on the international space station to lecture, a harvey mudd teacher looking to supplement his income, a contractor for boeing, a CSULB engineering professor etc.

What i find interesting is that in 'real' schools you have alot of teachers that have no real world experience, yeah they write books but have never applied this knowledge...but alot of companies do look for the school u went to.

Im not sayign on or the other is better but he did have "use your head and understand the theory" classes ..i know i asked to sit in some of his classes to satisfy my curiosity, plus our conversations turned technical and i'd grill him to see what they taught. he was an EET major and had calc 1 and 2 physics 1 and 2. they were doing fourier transform and the like, these are not plug and chug courses.

By the way he graduated pre-dotcom bubble burst and had actual written job offers from intel, qualcomm, a huge company that makes the wafer fab machines, rockwell, HP and casio. offers ranged, if i recall correctly from 38 to 45k.
 
I dont mean to regurgitate what Tuxdave said but, if youre basing a degree's worth on its curicculum, then a Stanford degree would have no value over one from Bumfuuck State College.

Having taken the same course at a community college and a distinguished school, i can tell you that one is substantially more difficult
 
Add the word Technician to about any job title and expect to get about 50% less respect/benefits than if that word were Engineer

YMMV
 
How can you have an EE degree with one semeter of calculus?

How is that possible?

How can someone do Laplace Transforms, and Fourier Series with one semester of calculus? How can you do any work with signals? Hell, I AC basics are above calc I.

Also the credit hours are misleading. I hae many 3 credit hour EE classes that I'm actually in for 5 hours a week. A quick browse of the Devry cirriculum matched credit hours <-> classroom hours all around....
 
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