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Better question:
Does posting threads on why the Nano sucks make you guys feel better that you own an inferior MP3 player?
Flash players are more durable, have better battery life, are smaller, and hold as many songs as the average MP3 player user wants to carry.
That's right. The average MP3 player user carries around 500 songs, even if their player can hold 10,000.
So why do you feel the need to carry 10,000 songs in your pocket?
Does posting threads on why the Nano sucks make you guys feel better that you own an inferior MP3 player?
Flash players are more durable, have better battery life, are smaller, and hold as many songs as the average MP3 player user wants to carry.
That's right. The average MP3 player user carries around 500 songs, even if their player can hold 10,000.
So why do you feel the need to carry 10,000 songs in your pocket?
1) never said that here
2) no flash player has a better battery then the one in teh Zen touch or Iaudio M3L/X5L 24/35 hour batterys and they get 90% of that
3) ?Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize that half of them are stupider than that!"
4) because i like being able to listen to what i want whenever i want to, and there are only 4800 mp3s currently on my player
nope, and I graduated from college in 2004, and most of the comps at that time were P3s running WinME, but ever comp had a CD burner and we had network storage drives, no need for a USB key, and well i cant recall ever useing a school comp for anything, so i really didnt need it
I can tell the difference and it DOES matter to me. I rip everything at 320 too and really wish I didn't have to use MP3 format at all. I'll take a 100 Gig music player please.....so I don't need to further compress the music.
And as far as HDTV goes people who wouldn't rather have a clearer picture (or claim they wouldn't) haven't seen true HDTV or they are blind. But probably they are just poor and trying to justify the fact they can't buy one.
purbeast0
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you all still do not understand the question at hand here ...
i repeat ... your needs != everyone elses needs
get that through your head! like i said, MOST people can't tell the difference between 192 and 320, so MOST people (and most means "average consumer") don't give a crap about it.
The same thing goes with PC's. why do you think they make PC's that range from $200 all the way to $10,000? because different USERS have different needs? let it go and move on with your life if someone doesn't like what you have. just because yours holds 10,000 songs and my 512mb shuffle holds a fraction of that, it gets the job done for my needs.
if i had both of those mp3 players, i would STILL take the shuffle with me to the gym over the one that holds 10,000 songs.
geno
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Originally posted by: faZZter
You're right, most people don't care if they listen to crappy music.
bingo!
the 90% of people on this board that can tell the diff between 320 and 128 kbps makes up probably 5% of the consumers in the US that give a damn. That's why companies like Bose stay in business
I have a Creative Zen Xtra 40GB, and it's a brick that I wouldn't feel comfortable with taking to the gym, much less running with it. It is great for using in the car or walking around though.
Creative's official position is that you shouldn't run with the Zen.
I have a flash-based iRiver for gym/running.
When they make an iPod Nano sized flash player with 40GB, I'll be drooling.
Creative's official position is that you shouldn't run with the Zen.
I have a flash-based iRiver for gym/running.
When they make an iPod Nano sized flash player with 40GB, I'll be drooling.
IAteYourMother
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Originally posted by: faZZter
You're right, most people don't care if they listen to crappy music.
:roll:
Ricemarine
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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: faZZter
You're right, most people don't care if they listen to crappy music.
bingo!
the 90% of people on this board that can tell the diff between 320 and 128 kbps makes up probably 5% of the consumers in the US that give a damn. That's why companies like Bose stay in business
Wow lol.
I'm glad I'm part of the 5%.
I enjoy the ultra low (if any) seek time of the flash based players. I was messing around with an iPod nano at the store and I admired the sweetness of scrolling through a bunch of pictures without waiting for the picture to load.
HDD break and flash does not. Also, flash drains a lot less power. That is how they could make the battery in the nano so small and still give a long life.
People generally just don't know. They hear the song in 128 and that's it...that's the song. Now give them halfway decent equipment, play the 128 and then the 320 and they'll be able to tell the difference. If not, then they're deaf.Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: faZZter
You're right, most people don't care if they listen to crappy music.
bingo!
the 90% of people on this board that can tell the diff between 320 and 128 kbps makes up probably 5% of the consumers in the US that give a damn. That's why companies like Bose stay in business
IAteYourMother
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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
People generally just don't know. They hear the song in 128 and that's it...that's the song. Now give them halfway decent equipment, play the 128 and then the 320 and they'll be able to tell the difference. If not, then they're deaf.Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: faZZter
You're right, most people don't care if they listen to crappy music.
bingo!
the 90% of people on this board that can tell the diff between 320 and 128 kbps makes up probably 5% of the consumers in the US that give a damn. That's why companies like Bose stay in business
More like if you have an mp3 player, you'll be listening to it mostly outside, where there is ambient noise which kind of makes the difference in quality less discernible. If I want to listen to music in ripe conditions (quiet) I'll use my computer, where HD is also not an issue
Does anyone know how many times the Ipod Nano flash memory can be re-written? I'm still deciding between the Ipod Nano and the Creative Zen Sleek. Both are somewhat similarly priced, but one is flash based and the other is hdd based.
Ipod Nano <> Zen Sleek
4GB VS. 20GB
much smaller, lighter, and more appealing visually VS. similar to a regular 4gen Ipod
color screen VS. LCD with blue backlight
no FM tuner & no WMA support VS. has FM tuner & WMA support
similar batter life
I guess the question is whether FM tuner, WMA support, and 20GB is more important than having a much smaller, much ligher, and visually much better (at the cost of features and compatibility - my WMA collection is very large). Or wait until Apple comes out with Ipod xxxx with FM tuner and greater than 4GB flash memory (WMA support isn't necessary if capacity is greater).
Ipod Nano <> Zen Sleek
4GB VS. 20GB
much smaller, lighter, and more appealing visually VS. similar to a regular 4gen Ipod
color screen VS. LCD with blue backlight
no FM tuner & no WMA support VS. has FM tuner & WMA support
similar batter life
I guess the question is whether FM tuner, WMA support, and 20GB is more important than having a much smaller, much ligher, and visually much better (at the cost of features and compatibility - my WMA collection is very large). Or wait until Apple comes out with Ipod xxxx with FM tuner and greater than 4GB flash memory (WMA support isn't necessary if capacity is greater).
IAteYourMother
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1)Nano released...flurry of threads about flash-based MP3 players...not a hard conclusion to draw.
2)True, but no flash player has the memory or battery life of the Nano in a comparable size. The Zen Touch and IAudio are noticeably bigger/heavier players.
3)Naw, it just means people don't need their entire music collection on tap when they are on the go; and they're willing to sacrifice some storage for the huge advantage in portability/durability.
4)That's nice for you.
Went to Best Buy today. The Nano is simply stunning in terms of size and visual appeal. In terms of features, not much. It's so small when I held the Nano with the Zen Sleek side-by-side. Like a feather, barely anything. I just wish Apple had put an FM tuner, then I would have not hesitated (yes, the FM tuner is useful for me). Gonna wait for a few months to see what Apple will release. Any guesses?
LordMaul
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"there is no adantage to it other then physicial size."
So? I had a 10GB iPod. I rarely had it even close to half full of songs I want to listen to OFTEN (I don't just throw every friggen mp3 I got on there, who wants to sort throuh 10GB of sh!t?). Then the Nano came out. Do I A) Sell my current iPod for ~$100, buy a nano and have an equally if not more function iPod that is half the size on my pockets, or B) Keep the big one with unused space and keep having to tote the mini-brick (HDD) around in my pants.
The nano arrives Saturday.
So? I had a 10GB iPod. I rarely had it even close to half full of songs I want to listen to OFTEN (I don't just throw every friggen mp3 I got on there, who wants to sort throuh 10GB of sh!t?). Then the Nano came out. Do I A) Sell my current iPod for ~$100, buy a nano and have an equally if not more function iPod that is half the size on my pockets, or B) Keep the big one with unused space and keep having to tote the mini-brick (HDD) around in my pants.
The nano arrives Saturday.
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