why do you guys hate macs?

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KarsinTheHutt

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I don't hate Macs. I just don't like the fact that there are limited choices in hardware upgrades and configurations.

I also don't like the 1 button mouse sans scroll wheel :(
 

jhu

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ba, you haven't seen my super-cluster of '286s have you? it has 1024 nodes, runs a custom version of linux, and can run quake @ 30fps. how cool is that?
 

silent tone

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I'd use a free g4 system but I wouldn't tell anybody cause I'd be too easily labeled an elitist jerk-off.

It's ironic how the apple of today is the antithesis of apple in the beginning.
1. They once made a computer enthusiast's machine, now it might be the most proprietary/closed system available, and designed for a fool.
2. The same company that was a rebel to 'the system'(ibm), now slaps down lawsuits on its own die-hard fans.
3. Apple has always advocated the creativity and freedom of expression and alternative to the stuffy beige boxes. But now, The disparity in choice in OS, software, and hardware between the macintosh and PC is an order of magnitude.

Can't ya'll see steve jobs on that viewscreen in the 1984 commercial,
B u y t h e i m a c.
C o l o r s a r e p r e t t y.
5 0 0 M h z i s a l l y o u n e e d.
M i c r o s o f t i s e v i l.
 

eia430

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JHU, I'll try to explain to you my understanding of where this fight comes from. Steve (a-hole and proud of it)Jobs started this kind of "I'm better than you" mentality with the group of apple employees that worked on and created the macintosh. That mentality has filterd down through their marketing brochures, articles etc, to the regular apple customers. We (me being an ex Macfanatic)PC users have become sick of the holier than thou attitude of mac users and have developed a natural hatred for everything mac. So to make this answer simple and to the point... where did this come from? STEVE JOBS.
 

WetSprocket

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Lack of software in the major reason. I use to get into arguments all the time about mac vs pc of course that was about 10 yrs ago. They had better graphics back then, unless your a graphic designer its pretty useless in its current state.
 

glenn1

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"Macs are the AOL of pc hardware...."

I disagree. AOL actually has people that pay them for their product, and have about 50% share of the consumer ISP market. Like 'em or not, they have figured out a way to make people pay their hard earned money for their stuff. Unlike Apple, on the other hand, which has what, perhaps a 3% market share, tops? Apple barely has much more market share of the home computer market than E-Machines, and we know what good quality they're known for..... ;)
 

Phalkon

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I dislike the Macintosh line of computers because they offer little to the computer hardware enthusiast. They're great for stuff like graphics and multimedia design and whatnot (thats why our school has 100's upon 100's of them in the communication arts labs) but for all around performance, Macintosh lags way behind x86 /w Dos/Windows/*nix based machines.
I think Apple had it right with the good old Apple II... simplicity and power all in one. Then again, its main competitor was Commodore for the home PC market.... considering 8086 processors costed an arm and a leg back in the day.

I can't go against the PEOPLE really, just against their naivety when they think they're hot shtuff with their uber-G4 underclocked to -100Hz

 

DesignDawg

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<< They're great for stuff like graphics and multimedia design and whatnot (thats why our school has 100's upon 100's of them in the communication arts labs) >>


Actually, they're really NOT all that great for those purposes. You are 100% correct that this is the REASON they are in graphics labs. It is. --But even though that is the REASON, it is based on a falsehood. I have to work in 2 different graphics studios filled with G4's. I run Photoshop, Premier, AfterEffects, Freehand, Illustrator, Director, Flash, and sound editing programs on these machines, and though they are all &quot;PII-CRUSHING 500 MHz POWERHOUSES&quot; with 256 MB of RAM, they all have a very sluggish feel to them when I work on them. Now, they are CAPABLE at these programs, but by no means fast. --ANd when compared directly to a PC running the same software, they are a joke. I speak TOTALLY from experience here. I am a COMPUTER enthusiast, and Mac's are computers. BELIEVE ME, if Macs really DID take over in terms of power one day, I would be the first in line to make the transition. --So, when the G4 came out, I was VERY excited about trying them out. I tried them, and I am UTTERLY disappointed. I go home, or to my office, after a day of fooling with those stupid G4's, and get on either my sub-$1500 dual celeron 550 or my sub-$1500 duron 1 GHz, and it almost makes me cry to think how much faster these two computers are, and how much money was wasted on those Macs. It's a shame. --But Jobs just keeps 'em strung along... a new clear toy out every few months, complete with PENTIUM-CRUSHING benchmarks.... Whatever floats your boat, but anyone who says they are a hradware enthusiast and they like Macs....ask them to prove what they know. You;ll find that it's usually JACK SH1T.

Ricky
DesignDawg
 

NesuD

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I Don't hate macs. I just don't want to use one for anything to inconvenient.
 

PCAddict

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I have more issues with Mac USERS than the computers themselves. They are generally a bunch of mindless twits, as others have pointed out. The computers are a waste of effort, because everything is so damn expensive compared to comparable PC stuff. It's harder to find software and peripherals that work (well, USB made more peripherals available recently).