why do you guys hate macs?

[jhu]

i don't quite understand where these strong feelings are coming from. is it apple? the hardware itself? the os? what if apple used intel chips. would that make things better for you guys?

for me, if i can load linux on it, it's ok with me so i don't have a gripe with macs

 

[Moonbeam]

And to think I just said you wouldn't trade your 286 for a G4. Are you saying I'm wrong?

 

[Pepsi90919]

it's the people that use them.

 

[jhu]

moonbeam, i've got an original ibm pc running a linux subset (elks). what makes you think i'd trade that for anything more?

 

[Duckers]

I don't hate macs.

I just think they are pointless.

 

[Ornery]

It ain't the machine, it's the USERS! "Apple consumers are famously style-minded and will often make a purchase decision based on a computer's color rather than its storage capacity ..."

 

[Budman]

Let me see..... Slow,Overpriced,Ugly.

Those 3 reasons are enough for me .

 

[jhu]

you're right on the overpriced aspect at least

don't tell me you guys wouldn't use a g4 mac if someone just handed you one, 'cuz then i'd think you're all crazy fanatics

 

[Duckers]

I believe Macs should be IBM compatible

 

[jhu]

you mean like the rs/6000?

 

[Killbat]

There is nothing wrong with the hardware. The Gx processors are pretty nice chips (with integers, at least). The problem I have with Macs is twofold: the OS and the users.
The OS is a joke. Running Mac OS on a G4 is like driving a Humvee on paved road. Now everyone's going nuts over OS X while it's nothing more than *nix in disguise.
The main thing is the users, though. I have to deal with a few Mac-ites at school every day. "Microsoft is evil" "OS X has the BSD core!"(I'll bet ten bucks they don't know what that means) "Windows crashes all the time" "PCs are so slow" "My iMac is blueberry"
ARG! :| Anyone who buys a computer based on its looks is totally nuts. I'm not shelling out outrageous amounts of money for a computer because it matches my couch. Apple is focusing too much on LOOKS and not enough on UTILITY. Examples:
OS X desktop info
Aqua info
In my opinion, throwing that many resources away on the GUI just to make it "pretty" is a sin.
And I love this page:
OS X info
"Preemptive multitasking
You need an operating system that can handle several different tasks at once ? giving priority to your primary application, but still crunching away at other jobs in the background. Darwin makes this possible with preemptive multitasking. It watches over your computer?s processor, sets processor priorities according to the importance of the task, makes sure activity levels are at maximum, and ensures that every task gets the resources it needs."
Are you telling me that every Mac OS up till X have NOT had this?

[edit]
jhu: "don't tell me you guys wouldn't use a g4 mac if someone just handed you one, 'cuz then i'd think you're all crazy fanatics"
Can you spell 'moot'? Of course I would take one if it was FREE. I have a Cue Cat for God's sake.

 

[Double Trouble]

I certainly don't hate mac's, I would just never consider buying one, nor would I recommend anyone else buy them either. They are the AOL of PC Hardware -- made for dimwits that are too stupid to figure out how to plug a phone cable into a modem or wall jack.

Those cutesy color eggs don't do anything for me, and the lack of expansion, matched with the high prices are the clincher.

 

[StageLeft]

Grossly overpriced and terribly under-supported is why I will not buy one. Upgrading isn't fun either.

 

[convex]

overrated...way way way overrated..they might have been the high end graphics platform of the late 80's...things are much different now..

 

[JellyBaby]

Ya'll forgot to mention proprietary design. There are no real Apple "clone" machines. Your purchase choices are limited. Most here are into the general machine "box", one you can tinker with, disassemble, tweak. Apple is anti-hobbiest. Plus Mac games suck.

 

[Sohcan]

I don't hate Macs...an all-SCSI dual G4 running PPC Linux would rule. OS X looks very impressive. My gripes are with:

1. Steve Jobs: he's a fsck-head. He may have some very innovative ideas, but his emotions are ruining the company (read: ATi Radeon and G4 cube incident). Apple stockholders need to fire him again.

2. Apple Marketing: The G4 certainly has a better IPC than x86 processors, but Apple's performance claims are way overrated. The G4 is just clocked too slow to even compare to the fastest Athlons and P3s. Yes, on a few specific Altivec-enhanced Photoshop filters, a 500 MHz G4 can be twice as fast as a 1GHz P3, but in almost all other apps and games the P3 wipes the floor with the G4. Apple also claimed that the G4 cube is the first consumer dual-processor computer, when x86 has had SMP for a hell of a long time.

3. Price: At one time, the Mac's high price was justified, mostly because they were all SCSI. Now the main line of Macs use IDE hard drives, yet they still carry the same high price.

4. Apple users: yes, there are educated Mac users, but a majority of them are close-minded, stubborn, and know nothing about computers. Trying to have a computer-related conversation with one only leads to suicide.

 

[urbantechie]

I'd totally take one if it was free though

 

[Pretender]

Wow, the only person who uses a mac in my school is actually smart and doesn't make those stupid comments. I still think he's a fsckhead, but he's a semi-respectable one.

 

[Moonbeam]

jhu, I was refering to this

 

[joburnet]

I don't like em because you can't build them, you have the buy the packaged version. But I do belive that mac has had some good ideas in the past and I really like the G4 processor.

 

[Gunbuster]

Only one mouse button. :disgust:

 

[ColdTech]

Lack of software

 

[KingHam]

They don't have one that matches the color of my walls.

KingHam

 

[Napalm381]

1. Lack of software.
2. Lack of hardware upgrades.
3. Price.
4. Marketing that involves lying through their teeth to people.
5. Emphasis on style over functionality.
6. Those lame keyboards and mice.

I think that about sums it up. PCs are faster, cheaper, with a much wider range of hardware upgrades and software availability.

 

[BA]

jhu, if someone gave you a free G4, just think how many 286's you could get if you sold it.

If someone gave me a free one, I'd probably just sell it. My nice, standard, upgradable, $600 PC does everything I need.