Why do we not eat carnivore meat?

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Locut0s

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I'm part of the crowd that considers fish meat. It's an animal, you eat it's flesh, it's meat. Lots of fish species we eat are carnivores. Salmon for example.

My parents being vegetarians who don't eat fish have a continual problem getting this across at restaurants. They order something and ask that it not contain any type of meant. No meat, no fish, we're vegetarian, any type of animal. Dish get's to the table and there's a fair amount of shrimp or something else in it. lol. Not a problem for me.
 

Jeff7

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Here's something on a tangent: Why don't we eat large insects? Shrimp are quite tasty, and are culturally acceptable in western society, but they're not much more than big aquatic bugs. I'd imagine it has to do with the fact that they're large enough that it's reasonably simple to remove all the "extra" stuff that makes them look all bug-like.

Madagascar hissing cockroaches look like they'd have a lot of meat in there, and you can feed them damn near anything, though I guess they should at least eat something partway decent, so they have adequate nutritional content.

Or maybe some variety of Giant Weta. Mmm, giant land shrimp.


And shrimp take all this underwater farming stuff, going out on boats to catch them, all kinds of hassle.
But roaches? Not many ways to screw up raising them. :)
 
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PingSpike

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Problem: I want to eat some meat.

Solution: I'll raise a tiger and then butcher and eat it. First I'll raise some prey animals and then have the tiger eat the meat...oh wait.
 

bignateyk

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I've never eaten an insect, but if it was fleshy like shellfish after being cooked and not gooey I would be open to it. I really have no idea what the meat of insects is like when cooked. I just know its a big gooey mess raw.
 

BurnItDwn

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The Middle East and Europe. Asia doesn't eat that much goat.

Goat may not be eaten much in parts of Asia, but I know many Indian and Pakistani dishes contain goat meat. I'd suspect Indonesia would as well ....

Pretty much anywhere where there's taboos against pork or beef... goat is king...
 

Locut0s

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Here's something on a tangent: Why don't we eat large insects? Shrimp are quite tasty, and are culturally acceptable in western society, but they're not much more than big aquatic bugs. I'd imagine it has to do with the fact that they're large enough that it's reasonably simple to remove all the "extra" stuff that makes them look all bug-like.

Madagascar hissing cockroaches look like they'd have a lot of meat in there, and you can feed them damn near anything, though I guess they should at least eat something partway decent, so they have adequate nutritional content.

Or maybe some variety of Giant Weta. Mmm, giant land shrimp.


And shrimp take all this underwater farming stuff, going out on boats to catch them, all kinds of hassle.
But roaches? Not many ways to screw up raising them. :)

They are extremely nutritious too. Vietnam and a number of other Asian and African cultures do eat insects. Quite a few different species too. For the rest of the world they won't be able to get over the "ick" factor. I'd love to try some insect dishes myself but don't know any places around here that you can get them. Some of the more popular edible insects seem to be grasshoppers, ants and bees and wasps.
 

Locut0s

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Goat may not be eaten much in parts of Asia, but I know many Indian and Pakistani dishes contain goat meat. I'd suspect Indonesia would as well ....

Pretty much anywhere where there's taboos against pork or beef... goat is king...

Shit I forgot about India, you're right.
 

Locut0s

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I've never eaten an insect, but if it was fleshy like shellfish after being cooked and not gooey I would be open to it. I really have no idea what the meat of insects is like when cooked. I just know its a big gooey mess raw.

You know this from personal experience eating them raw?: :hmm:
 

PingSpike

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Here's something on a tangent: Why don't we eat large insects? Shrimp are quite tasty, and are culturally acceptable in western society, but they're not much more than big aquatic bugs. I'd imagine it has to do with the fact that they're large enough that it's reasonably simple to remove all the "extra" stuff that makes them look all bug-like.

Madagascar hissing cockroaches look like they'd have a lot of meat in there, and you can feed them damn near anything, though I guess they should at least eat something partway decent, so they have adequate nutritional content.

Or maybe some variety of Giant Weta. Mmm, giant land shrimp.


And shrimp take all this underwater farming stuff, going out on boats to catch them, all kinds of hassle.
But roaches? Not many ways to screw up raising them. :)

I think there was a thread about this awhile back but I have to agree. Insects aren't really any different then eating lobster. I'm not sure any society really eats them though, at least not in great numbers. Maybe they end up being around the same amount of work to feed as a chicken...but I have to say I find that hard to believe. Obviously my first thought is "fucking gross" but I can't logically think of a reason they aren't consumed more, especially in poor countries.
 

Locut0s

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Off topic:

Any idea how much your average King Crab weighs? I was in a local asian super market the other day when I saw the largest King Crab I've ever seen in my life. We are talking 4 feet across or more. They were selling them for $19.99/lb. I was trying to guess how much that sucker would cost but I really have no idea what such a thing would weigh? 10lbs? 20lbs? less, more?
 

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The Middle East and Europe. Asia doesn't eat that much goat.

since when did the middle east become its own continent?

the near east is party in africa and party in asia, the middle east is fully in asia, and the far east is also fully in asia. (going by proper usage of the term, not the botched american version where middle east is full of A-rabs).
 

Locut0s

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I've never eaten an insect, but if it was fleshy like shellfish after being cooked and not gooey I would be open to it. I really have no idea what the meat of insects is like when cooked. I just know its a big gooey mess raw.

To answer your question seriously I don't know personally but I've heard that the smaller insects, fried, have a nutty earthy flavour. Ants, strangely enough, are supposed to have a citrusy zing to them. When you start talking about larger insects and larva though I think it starts to become much more of an acquired taste:

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Locut0s

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since when did the middle east become its own continent?

the near east is party in africa and party in asia, the middle east is fully in asia, and the far east is also fully in asia. (going by proper usage of the term, not the botched american version where middle east is full of A-rabs).

Hay you're preaching to the choir here. I agree 100%. But I can be pretty lax in forum posts :p