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Why do some atheists love circlejerks on a tech forum?

I just didn't understand it, like the Atheists have big circle jerks on Reddit too? I don't go there. This seems like a new thing to me. The Atheists were always doing their thing. Now they've gone full-retard.
 
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Lot of atheists think they are better than Christians. I've never seen a religious belief system with such a big ego. I've learned to stop getting in the middle of it. They can enjoy their time on Earth persecuting others, but they'll be disappointed at what comes at the end.

Atheists also fear the unknown or anything that they can't see with their eyes. They are simple minded, and I feel sorry for them.
 
OverVolt said:
I just didn't understand it, like the Atheists have big circle jerks on Reddit too? I don't go there. This seems like a new thing to me. The Atheists were always doing their thing. Now they've gone full-retard.
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What exactly are you talking about? What's supposedly changed?
 
Red Squirrel said:
Lot of atheists think they are better than Christians. I've never seen a religious belief system with such a big ego. I've learned to stop getting in the middle of it. They can enjoy their time on Earth persecuting others, but they'll be disappointed at what comes at the end.
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Hahahahaha. The ironing...
 
darkswordsman17 said:
What exactly are you talking about? What's supposedly changed?
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They're more harsh. When they didn't get together to do whatever it is Atheists do (why would they even gather together?) it was more entertaining, like oh that's an interesting take on things. I liked the idea and followed suit, about 4 years ago I was an Atheist for say... 2 years.

It didn't really suit me in the long term. Its very dreary and uninspired to be that way. You can REALLY try to muster something intelligent up, like "knowing its all pointless lets me live life as positive as I can because HAY! why not!"

but in the long term I don't think that logic will work for anyone. Especially if they hit any sort of rock bottom.

And its taken a turn for the more serious like they're trying to carve out an anti-spirituality spirituality movement. Like I said full-retard.

Maybe they can have rituals where they crush dandelions in a field and smell them to remind them they only live in the here and now. Kind of like any other religious ceremony with some kind of symbolism, but of course you know, thats for stupid people.

Its getting very...hmmm... hypocritical.
 
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OverVolt said:
They're more harsh. When they didn't get together to do whatever it is Atheists do (why would they even gather together?) it was more entertaining, like oh that's an interesting take on things. I liked the idea and followed suit, about 4 years ago I was an Atheist for say... 2 years.

It didn't really suit me in the long term. Its very dreary and uninspired to be that way. You can REALLY try to muster something intelligent up, like "knowing its all pointless lets me live life as positive as I can because HAY! why not!"

but in the long term I don't think that logic will work for anyone. Especially if they hit any sort of rock bottom.

And its taken a turn for the more serious like they're trying to carve out an anti-spirituality spirituality movement. Like I said full-retard.

Maybe they can have rituals where they crush dandelions in a field and smell them to remind them they only live in the here and now. Kind of like any other religious ceremony with some kind of symbolism, but of course you know, thats for stupid people.

Its getting very...hmmm... hypocritical.
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Can you be more specific? I still have no idea what you're actually talking about.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Lot of atheists think they are better than Christians. I've never seen a religious belief system with such a big ego. I've learned to stop getting in the middle of it. They can enjoy their time on Earth persecuting others, but they'll be disappointed at what comes at the end.

Atheists also fear the unknown or anything that they can't see with their eyes. They are simple minded, and I feel sorry for them.
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Fear? No. Refuse to accept unsubstantiated Claims? Yes.
 
The same reason a lot of people of any persuasion do.

There are tons of angry, frustrated, validation seeking people out there and the internet gives them a largely consequence-free place to vent that anger. As for atheists specifically, there are plenty of intelligent, calm, non-angry atheists, but unfortunately atheism is also a common path for angsty teenagers in the midst of rebellion against their likely religiously conservative parents, or other people who want to rebel for the sake of rebelling.

Which, unfortunately, means it attracts a lot of attention-seeking idiots who have no desire to debate but every desire to prove themselves right.
 
OverVolt said:
^^^

Like that 😛

They have banded together, a stronger united force of Atheism!, to do.... whatever it is.... they do.
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Meh all atheists have in common is their atheism. some are also secular humanists but not all.

They're more harsh. When they didn't get together to do whatever it is Atheists do (why would they even gather together?) it was more entertaining, like oh that's an interesting take on things. I liked the idea and followed suit, about 4 years ago I was an Atheist for say... 2 years.

It didn't really suit me in the long term. Its very dreary and uninspired to be that way. You can REALLY try to muster something intelligent up, like "knowing its all pointless lets me live life as positive as I can because HAY! why not!"

but in the long term I don't think that logic will work for anyone. Especially if they hit any sort of rock bottom.

And its taken a turn for the more serious like they're trying to carve out an anti-spirituality spirituality movement. Like I said full-retard.

Maybe they can have rituals where they crush dandelions in a field and smell them to remind them they only live in the here and now. Kind of like any other religious ceremony with some kind of symbolism, but of course you know, thats for stupid people.

Its getting very...hmmm... hypocritical.
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You cannot be an atheist for 2 years to try it out. It is NOT a belief system. It is a singular belief that there is no god. For myself I come to that view because there is no actual evidence for god.

When you talk about an anti-spirituality movement you seem to forget that a lot of it is harmful. Anti-vax is based on some demonstrably false data but people still believe in it. Homeopathy is just bloody water, if you take homeopathic 'medicine' for a serious ailment it could kill you. Atleast psychics and astrologers are mostly harmless in that they do try and give people a sense of closure but it is still taking advantage of people who are in a difficult emotional state and I think it is wrong to do that.

The real issue is that all of this comes from a lack of critical thinking. A lack of understanding with regarding what good evidence is and where it comes from and how to tell the difference between good, solid, well supported evidence and some opinion someone has posted on the internet or in a book without anything to support the claim.

That then spills into the education sector and in the USA there is a big problem with people who want to teach creationism along side evolution in this 'teach the controversy' bullshit. So unless people stand up against this sort of thing happening then it will get worse but when you stand up against something a lot of people feel strongly about you get backlash or you get a persecution complex.
 
Well my favorite example, show me the evidence for why people accept money in trades. Its backed by nothing.

All social constructs are belief based whether atheists like it or not.

Science is harmful too, we burn up resources and will inevitably go to war to fight for said resources. Its really no different. The idea that science is somehow not at fault for people fighting meanwhile religion IS at fault, is a fallacy. People always inherently fight anyway. Thats why Religion > Science because religion at least tries to address the underlying problem (make us all get along) instead of totally ignoring it. Religion doesn't always work and neither does science. As logical as atheists try to pretend to be, they don't respond well to logic.

Religion and belief in God still serve a purpose.

Then there is Pascal's wager. If you believe in God, and he doesn't exist, you've lost nothing. If you don't believe in God, and he does exist, you've lost out. Logically, its not smart. Betting on there being no god is a losing bet 100% of the time.
 
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Ancalagon44 said:
Why do some Christians like circle jerks in real life?
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Well you guys are like fish in a barrel once you get "NO U PROVE IT" and "God is for stupid people" out of the way its not like you guys can go pickup an Atheism book for inspiration, all you guys got is Atheism wiki.
 
OverVolt said:
Well my favorite example, show me the evidence for why people accept money in trades. Its backed by nothing.

All social constructs are belief based whether atheists like it or not.

Science is harmful too, we burn up resources and will inevitably go to war to fight for said resources. Its really no different. The idea that science is somehow not at fault for people fighting meanwhile religion IS at fault, is a fallacy. People always inherently fight anyway. Thats why Religion > Science because religion at least tries to address the underlying problem (make us all get along) instead of totally ignoring it. Religion doesn't always work and neither does science. As logical as atheists try to pretend to be, they don't respond well to logic.

Religion and belief in God still serve a purpose.

Then there is Pascal's wager. If you believe in God, and he doesn't exist, you've lost nothing. If you don't believe in God, and he does exist, you've lost out. Logically, its not smart. Betting on there being no god is a losing bet 100% of the time.
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Uhhhhhh.... wow.

1. Religion tries to address the underlying problem and make us all get along? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! *breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Most religions segregate society to make its members feel better about themselves. A core tenant of most religions is "people who don't think like we do are going to suffer for all eternity". Granted some take it further than others, but it's all about social relationships and hierarchies. Like most things human.

Science by contrast has brought society together more then religion ever will. The very fact that we're posting on an internet forum proves this, let alone the other myriad inventions I could point to.


2. Believing in God in and of itself isn't the problem, it's what you do with that belief and how it affects your worldly actions.

I'm Deist, I believe in God, and I even occasionally pray, but I have no delusions of understanding the nature/word of God nor do I expect my prayers to be answered in any way shape or form. My beliefs are beliefs, not facts or certainties, and I acknowledge the difference. Yet, despite my belief in God, I'm apparently going to hell according to many belief systems around the world. So Pascal's wager ceases to apply to me I guess, depending on whom you ask.
 
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Science by contrast has brought society together more than religion ever will. The very fact that we're posting on an internet forum proves this, let alone the other myriad inventions I could point to.
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This is fluffy at best. You could easily argue people hardly communicate in person anymore.

Like most things human.
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Still not sure why people mucking up religion puts religion at fault but when people muckup with technology/science place the individual people at fault.

If someone launched a nuke we'd blame the person who launched it and not the nuke itself.

If someone started a religious war we'd blame the religion and not the person who started the war.

Einstein has no more control over how people use his inventions than does the bible have control over how people interpret it.
 
OverVolt said:
Well you guys are like fish in a barrel once you get "NO U PROVE IT" and "God is for stupid people" out of the way its not like you guys can go pickup an Atheism book for inspiration, all you guys got is Atheism wiki.
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Whatever.

No Christian I've ever debated online is actually interested in a debate. None of you want to understand evolution or Atheism, and how they are separate. You want to just blindly carry on believing what you have always believed, because you are scared that being exposed to other ideas will make you abandon your belief.

Which is why its not surprising that there was a recent American survey that proved Atheists and agnostics know more about religion than Christians.

So just carry on, dont mind us. Just carry on judging homosexuals, atheists, muslims, jews, anyone pro Obama or anti war. Nevermind that the Bible says not to judge, but dont let that stop. Just judge all of us.
 
OverVolt said:
This is fluffy at best. You could easily argue people hardly communicate in person anymore.

Still not sure why people mucking up religion puts religion at fault but when people muckup with technology/science place the individual people at fault.

If someone launched a nuke we'd blame the person who launched it and not the nuke itself.

If someone started a religious war we'd blame the religion and not the person who started the war.
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Actually you couldn't. I live in a small city and witness/participate in in-person communication en-mass everyday. Yes people communicate in person "less" than they used to, but they're still communicating. In fact they might even be communicating with people that they previously couldn't communicate with.

Plus the potential for social progress via the internet is astounding. The Arab spring, such as it is, would likely not have happened without the internet. Likewise many dictatorships censor the internet for very logical reasons. But enough of this digression...


Science, by definition, is dispassionate and has no side. It cant be, it's just a human invention. Now you can have passionate scientists, but at its core science itself is nothing more than a procedure for processing new information.

And FYI we do blame individuals for starting religious wars. I've never heard anyone with any historical education blaming Christianity or Islam for the Crusades. Sure there are idiots who will, there are idiots who will say anything to make themselves feel better.
 
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