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why do ppl need a weight loss drug to lose weight?
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dullard
Elite Member
Appetite suppressant (remember Fen-phen?) plus Antidepressant that is used for smoking cessation, alcoholism treatment, weight loss, etc.
Basically it is attempting to treat the body (appetite suppressant) and the mind (antidepressant).
I think you are oversimplifying the issue. Weight loss involves two things: 1) Eat less and 2) Overcome the constant and massive cravings. You can't say it is as simple as just doing #1. Weightloss is mind-over-matter. You need the right mind to eat less matter. Ignoring the mind means that you are ignoring the true problem.
The low calorie / low fat crazes are perfect examples. The more people eat low calorie / low fat foods, the heavier we get. Look at some graphs, there is a near perfect correlation there. But, the correlation is the opposite of what people think. Eating low fat or low calorie foods INCREASES weight. They think they are doing what you want (eat less), but they are wrong.
Your simplification ignores the mind portion. Give a fat person a box of full fat, full calorie cookies, and they'll eat one or two. They'll eat maybe 250 calories at most. Give that same person a box of reduceed fat/reduced calorie cookies, and they'll eat the whole box in a sitting. They'll eat 2000 calories in that sitting. The mind is very compelling and very much incorrect. They think they are eating less calories, but they end up eating far, far more.
Thus, you can't just eat less. Because if you think you are eating less, you very well may be eating more. You have to combine the idea of eating less with the knowledge of how to truely eat less.
darkxshade
Lifer
A lot of people like to throw the term "losing weight" around a lot which doesn't help because it only paints half the picture. Losing fat is what people should be aiming for. You can talk about food all you want but dieting doesn't mean shit if exercise is not involved. A guy who's 5'8 @ 200 lbs can lose weight and become 170 lbs @ 20% bf or 170 lbs @ 10% bf. In both instances, 30 lbs is lost but obviously one guy is still a fatass despite not being overweight.
bobross419
Golden Member
Very true... maybe they'll make smart pills someday and blahblah will start taking them. Then we can make a thread "Why do ppl need a smart gain drug to gain smarts?"
"Seriously, what is wrong with these people are they just that stupid that they can't go out and read a freakin' book or two?"
Reply 1: "Nope they spend all their time in the gym or hating on the fatties in ATOT"
blahblah: "stop pickin on me guys... You're all fat... Here is a random picture of some guy flexing that I found over on gay.bodybuilders.com ... its my arm... I could own you... my girlfriend's breasts are the size of watermelons and her butt cheeks can stop bullets."
ondarkness
Platinum Member
omgrofflemywaffleqft
Regs
Lifer
They would rather take the risk and feel good about themselves for once. For some people at different ages, body chemistry, health conditions, previous injuries and so fourth can't simply start excersising.
Most of the people know that their lifestyle is not the greatest and they won't try to hide it either.
Most of the people know that their lifestyle is not the greatest and they won't try to hide it either.
bobross419
Golden Member
So gross
Blackjack200
Lifer
Or the 5'8 guy can diet until he's 170 lbs, and then worry about his body composition, since losing the 30 lbs undoubtedly boosted his self esteem and helped break his food addiction. The guy that excercises and diets is more likely to overeat after his excersise sessions (thus negating his diet), plateu, get frustrated and ultimately fail. It's why the weight loss specialists at Yale University don't focus on excercise anymore.
bobross419
Golden Member
You work on that while I work on one for blahblah's hands that prevent him from posting unless it has a certain IQ number.
BlahBlahYouToo
Lifer
i'd guess you were skim milk on another account but you're slightly wittier. but not by much.
Damn it, don't you ever stop moaning about fat people?
What is the problem? They won't let you in the big girl clubs?
Chunky ladies shoot you down?
Your lady doesn't have any cushion for the pushin'?
Or the most likely, you used to be an uber fatty who got made fun of and now you are striking back at yourself by putting your hatred on those you perceive to be the "old you".
bobross419
Golden Member
bobross419
Golden Member
Only thing fat on me is my cock. For verification ask that heffer you call mom.
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SlitheryDee
Decreasing food intake by a sufficient amount always works, for everyone. The only thing that's different for different people is the ease with which that is done. When I'm forced to restrict my food intake, it's all I can do to just stick with it for long enough to have a net loss after my occasional binges. It's really hard for me to do. To pull it off I have to precisely track and record everything I eat every day to make certain that nothing "slips through". That food that slips in and gets forgotten is probably the prime culprit for the lack of success people experience when they take the "I'll just eat less" approach. Perception is the problem. Some people can eat enormous quantities of food and not feel like they've eaten very much (this is the fat guy who claims to "barely eat anything" and still can't lose weight), others can eat a bird's portion and feel incredibly full (this is all those skinny people who claim to "eat like horses" but never gain weight). The truth is that both groups tend to estimate their food intake based on how full they feel, which gives them an incorrect answer in the end. Their bodies all react the same way to food. It's their perception of what they're eating that's way off.
bobross419
Golden Member
What about the skinny people that are slowly getting fatter that say they "eat like a horse" 😵?
bobross419
Golden Member
http://vids.myspace.com/index....idual&VideoID=19504551 << blahblah might barf if he watches this video, or maybe just go into a blind rage of blubber hating insanity.
zinfamous
No Lifer
This. Some drugs do aid in burning fat, processing food, whatever. Also, some people mentally need that "easy-out" plecebo type effect. Meaning, if they know they are taking a pill to address the issue, then more often than not (Assuming they're serious about changing), they'll do the required diet/exercise to maximize the drug's effectiveness. ...or even trigger it.
Also, some extreme cases, people simply can't do the physical exercise that is needed early on. I once ran into a guy on the disc golf course, several years ago, who put himself on a daily activity regimen. he was in bad shape, and the simply walking he'd get from disc golf (a great idea), was about all that he could manage. problem his, my buddies and I found him after a fall, apparently, and he was leaning up against a tree because he couldn't physically lift himself. Legs and ankles were too weak. It took 3 of us to get him up.
I in cases like this, "just exercise--don't eat!" is the most worthless advice, and displays a profound ignorance towards the issue. That was several years ago, and I hope that guy stuck to it and shed those pounds. These people absolutely need an aid to simply get to the point where they can consider physical activity
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