Originally posted by: vrbaba
Where is Austin are they planning to build the largest walmart?
I dont hate Walmart, but some of the annoying things to me are:
1 - Too crowded, and not the best of crowd usually
2 - The employees never have any clue whats going on, they dont know where things are even if they are assigned to their 2 aisles of a category
But recently, some of their tech deals have been pretty good, like on cheap brand TVs, HD-DVD players, etc. I would shop there for most things for good deals besides clothes
northcross mall.
here's the website of the group opposing it. to me it seems like a bunch of bitchers worried about land value.
http://www.rg4n.org/
responsible growth my ass.
I hate walmart because it's a magnet for all of society's worst. Unwed mothers with 14 kids in tow, the redneck families, people with no intelligence, people with no hygiene, people with no class. I will gladly pay more to shop in an environment free of those rejects. I suppose if anything I should thank walmart for drawing that ilk away from the other stores.
but why hate it ?
poor people need to buy stuff too. are you saying they should starve/freeze to death.
Wal-Mart hires illegal immigrants, and pays them less than minimum wage. By importing cheap products from other countries, they drive American industry and retailers (that can't match its massive buying power and ability to manipulate prices) out of business. Any crappy jobs they provide for a handful of unskilled workers is more than offset by the people laid off when they drive American businesses into bankruptcy.
Choice? Wal-Mart eliminates choice from the market. A completely free market only works when you don't care about the people who inevitably get screwed- businesses like Wal-Mart are the reason why government intervention into the private sector is sometimes necessary. By killing any chance for fair competition, they keep the power of choice from ever reaching the American consumer.
On the other hand, they've done a great job in recent years to improve their environmental record. No company is all bad.
I've never been in one, or purchased anything from their online store, and I never will.
but if they don't hire illegals they will turn to crime or die. i'd rather they become usefull rather than criminal. wouldn't you ? i agree about the killing of other buisnesses. but isn't that any market. intell crushes amd, nvidia crushes 3dfx/matrox/others, blah crushes blah forces blah out of market.
I love Wal-Mart. When they first came to my town some 25 years or so ago, we didn't really have a store like it. The prices and selection were good. Back then, before they were the "big evil empire", people still bitched about them. Doesn't matter to me. If people insist on paying more elswehere, more power to them. I like to save money.
this guy hit another important point. the selection. i don't own a car (as a college student i barely have enough for food) so having lots of stuff in one place is nice. same goes for a lot of people without cars.
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I hate walmart because it's a magnet for all of society's worst. Unwed mothers with 14 kids in tow, the redneck families, people with no intelligence, people with no hygiene, people with no class. I will gladly pay more to shop in an environment free of those rejects. I suppose if anything I should thank walmart for drawing that ilk away from the other stores.
:thumbsup:
so its not really something to hate. rather something to be grateful for and appreciate.
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Walmart ran out 3 of my favourite small stores in the neighbourhood. So in my personal opinion, walmart can fuck off and die in a motherfucking fire as far as I'm concerned, those fucking bastards. :|
KT
well this seems to be the most important reason.
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
Wal-mart makes a lot of the lower-tiered employees wait a long time before offering
health insurance and then it's crap when they do qualify. End result is when people
get sick they wind up at the ER and the rest of the taxpayers get to pay for indigent
care but hey, the profit margins are so much better and the shareholders are making
more$$ and that's all that matters right?.
but atleast they offer employment. otherwise these people would simply be burdens on society.
Originally posted by: rockyct
Ignoring business practices, I don't like shopping there. I hate how they put pallets of junk in the main aisles and how the lines are at least five people deep most of the time. Plus, I don't see much difference in prices on the stuff I buy. Target just has a better "buying experience." It just seems more relaxed at a Target for whatever reasons, be it the open aisles, the warmer lighting, the people, etc. I can shop at a Target. At Wal-Mart, I just want to get the hell out of there.
i've found target about the same as walmart. and target is much less common and a little more expensive.
Originally posted by: LS21
i dont hate walmart per se, i hate the shopping experience at walmart.
lines are long as hell, people who shop there are scum -- parking lot is an absolute shopping cart jungle... carts littered everywhere... they shove them and ding cars.. ive gotten honked and stuff thrown at me while walking because people in their 1998 Z71 truck wanted to speed by out of the parking lot.
shopping experience at target is nicer. plus pretty young girls shop at target, opposed to overweight sweats-and-tank-top wearing behemoths at walmart
don't know about the "young girls" but what's that got to do with the store's quality.
Originally posted by: amdforever2
Walmart is evil and bad for the economy.
In the dystopian world of the future that walmart envisions, everyone works for walmart and everyone uses walmart for everything.
There is no industry they are not wanting to invade and conquer.
Grocery, pharmacy, automotive, banking, automobile sales, how long until they want to build houses?
At lease microsofts vision of domination is kept to computers and gaming. They don't wanna sell me bananas by xbox live and open a checking account for me.
come now. you hate them cuz there good and can expand. then hate google as well, and sony (oops everyone already hates sony), and tons of ther companies.
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Originally posted by: CPA
1. It's the cool thing to do.
2. It makes them feel like they care for the community and fellow man, though they are really just elitists in sheep's clothing.
3. They gain a false sense of satisfaction for supporting mom-and-pop stores, seeing those same mom-and-pop stores do much less for the economy (higher pricing, limited selection, etc) and much less for their employees (no healthcare, not retirement plans, etc) than Walmart.
uh...
1. A store doesn't garner t his much hatred just because its fun.
2. An elitest because we do not like a company which practices their tactics?
3. It's not just mom and pop stores. A walmart goes into your neighborhood and you can gurantee your Fred Meyer and other stores like that will be going out of business. Why? Because Fred Meyer doesn't bend their employees over to give "always low prices". How can you claim that mom and pop stores don't offer health care or retirement? Thats a per company basis and to make that claim is absurd. I am a consultant for a company (a small flower shop) that offers their full time employees full benefits.
Employees of walmart aren't paid very much, they used to receive ZERO health care until they were forces to a couple years ago. So what you have is a company that sends other companies out of business who actually pay their employees well and their employees aren't as much or not at all a drain on our system as walmart's are. On top of that they are a huge importer of shit products from other countries, making them are a big contributer to the job problem in the US.
So, we don't hate walmart because its the cool thing to do.
maybe you don't but a lot of people do hate walmart buz its cool. its the same as hating the iphone, or the ps3. it just catches on and people don't wanna seem weird so they agree. give you an example. in one of my classes we disscused the whole walmart in austin thing. everyone except me said they hated it and did not want it. i know for a fact the 7 of those kids (class of 20) shopped at walmart.
Originally posted by: compman25
So where exactly does Target most of their crap? It couldn't be China could it.
good point. its not like target supports made in america anymore than walmart does.
Originally posted by: FoBoT
I :heart: WalMart
me too.
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
ChinaMart
I don't buy there...
I go to Sam's Club
LOL.
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
So, we don't hate walmart because its the cool thing to do.
It's just because you don't understand.
1. Walmart is paying at minimum wage or above as according to the LAW.
2. People take these jobs and understand going into it how much they are compensated and what their job will be.
Pardon me, but PLEASE explain how Walmart is doing something wrong here. That is NOT a valid argument.
"you can gurantee your Fred Meyer and other stores like that will be going out of business"
Prove this please with data to back it up.
You've provided nothing that shows they've done anything wrong. People want to bitch and say that Walmart puts mom and pop shops out of business. I'm confused here, does walmart force people to stop buying at those stores? If their customers loved the store so much and walmart provides such crappy service, why are all of these stores going out of business? ITS THE CHOICE OF THE CUSTOMER!! that's what you idiots don't understand. You always point blame at Walmart for other places closing. But the problem is those places apparently weren't that great if their customer base quits shopping there. Obviously the public has spoken.
i'd also like to add that(driving mom and pop out of buisness) goes for any big box store. of anything. be it electronics or clothes or barber.
well this is it for pg 1
i'll get to the other pages tommorow. man i didn't think this'd be such a hige thread.