Why do people hate Jews?

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SnapIT

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Originally posted by: sward666
The longer people debate over "historical claim", the longer this will go on. The Israelis are there, and they're not leaving. The sooner the Palestinians (and the rest of the Arab world) wrap their heads around that idea, the sooner the whole region can take some steps towards some kind of progress.

And the sooner the Israelis realize that going beyond the borders of Israel is going to cause violent attacks, the sooner the whole region can take some steps towards some kind of progress...
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Lonyo
The US hates Jews? Pull the other one. Israel is supported by the USA, it's the homeland of the Jews, created on land that should be the Palestinians. If the US hates Jews so much, then why is the US the country that's giving the most support to Israel in its efforts to establish a country in someone elses land?

The Palistinians have little claim to Israel. Historically, they have only recent claim to the land. You must consider the history first. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, and has been for many thousands of years.

Correct me if I am wrong..God promised the land in what is today Israel, to Abraham's son...
Back in those days, right of successorship went to the first born son....therefore shouldn't Abraham's first born son with Hagar, Ishmael, have all the right to the land and therefore the Palestinians own the land and the Israeli's are trespassing...


Nope, the Jewish and Christian Holy book says nope...God said to get rid of Hagar and Ishmael and to give it to Isaac instead...

What if my Holy Book declared that God gave me the land between Canada and Mexico? Can I drive you out?

You haven't already?


According to the manifest destiny, God gave Americans the right to colonise America, it was their duty to go and kill the Mexicans/Indians etc, so they did.
Americans believed it was their mission to kill people.
 

everman

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Makes my think about what would happen if Lieberman was elected President, what would all of those nations that hate Israel do? (not saying I'm really for him or against him, just a thought)
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Lonyo
The US hates Jews? Pull the other one. Israel is supported by the USA, it's the homeland of the Jews, created on land that should be the Palestinians. If the US hates Jews so much, then why is the US the country that's giving the most support to Israel in its efforts to establish a country in someone elses land?

The Palistinians have little claim to Israel. Historically, they have only recent claim to the land. You must consider the history first. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, and has been for many thousands of years.

Correct me if I am wrong..God promised the land in what is today Israel, to Abraham's son...
Back in those days, right of successorship went to the first born son....therefore shouldn't Abraham's first born son with Hagar, Ishmael, have all the right to the land and therefore the Palestinians own the land and the Israeli's are trespassing...


Nope, the Jewish and Christian Holy book says nope...God said to get rid of Hagar and Ishmael and to give it to Isaac instead...

What if my Holy Book declared that God gave me the land between Canada and Mexico? Can I drive you out?

You haven't already?


According to the manifest destiny, God gave Americans the right to colonise America, it was their duty to go and kill the Mexicans/Indians etc, so they did.
Americans believed it was their mission to kill people.

Keep in mind, they're were doing some of that killing when Britian was still incharge.
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: sward666
The longer people debate over "historical claim", the longer this will go on. The Israelis are there, and they're not leaving. The sooner the Palestinians (and the rest of the Arab world) wrap their heads around that idea, the sooner the whole region can take some steps towards some kind of progress.

Soon as the Israelis carry out their final solution of the Arab question, eh?

 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
Everyone else today. (people making jokes about Jews)

Is it just becasue they have a different religion in general or what?

that "everyone" is just US. It's just an american culture thing to make fun of jews.

The 1930s Germans where really Americans? Please!

heheh you know its off base when even hagbard is sticking up for americans

too bad he didn't get the "today" part though... ;-)

'Today' is such a vague term. ;-)
 

Bulk Beef

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Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: sward666
The longer people debate over "historical claim", the longer this will go on. The Israelis are there, and they're not leaving. The sooner the Palestinians (and the rest of the Arab world) wrap their heads around that idea, the sooner the whole region can take some steps towards some kind of progress.

Soon as the Israelis carry out their final solution of the Arab question, eh?
DING DING DING. Nazi comparison. You lose.

 

BooneRebel

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Originally posted by: LonyoAccording to the manifest destiny, God gave Americans the right to colonise America, it was their duty to go and kill the Mexicans/Indians etc, so they did. Americans believed it was their mission to kill people.
It's always easier to kill if you have God on your side. That's why we have so many holy wars. :(

 

ElFenix

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bah, manifest destiny (and the monroe doctrine, which was enforced by england) was merely the terms that the US couched its realist foreign policy goals and methods during the 18th century.
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: sward666
The longer people debate over "historical claim", the longer this will go on. The Israelis are there, and they're not leaving. The sooner the Palestinians (and the rest of the Arab world) wrap their heads around that idea, the sooner the whole region can take some steps towards some kind of progress.

Soon as the Israelis carry out their final solution of the Arab question, eh?
DING DING DING. Nazi comparison. You lose.

Making any kind of comparison with Israel..I lose.

 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
Everyone else today. (people making jokes about Jews)

Is it just becasue they have a different religion in general or what?

that "everyone" is just US. It's just an american culture thing to make fun of jews.

Oh? Wow... I never knew someone who was familiar with all the world's cultures so intimately that they'd know something like that for sure! :Q

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It ain't a U.S. thing, it's a "I want to make fun of someone, who's an easy target?" thing.
 

vash

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I don't have j00! Heck, I don't even know j00!

Seriously now, a lot of hate comes from people believing jews have a lot of money, are stingy with it and are quite good at getting more money with their money. Think of it for a second, when was the last time you saw a jewish person collecting welfare? Not every jewish person I know is well off, but many are all educated (many professional Dr's, lawyers) and come from a family of wealth, knowing many other families of wealth. Once you start with wealth and education, you strive for the same for your children, so they, in turn, grow up with the same.

The other part of people hating jewish people comes from them controlling a lot of media (TV, radio, etc). This stereotype comes from some arabs from the mideast. They believe that because the jews control all the US media, the US people will never see what is happening to the Palestinian people (which jewish owned/operated station would show what Israeli's killing Arabs).

I've never come across a jewish person that I've hated (not to say there aren't some out there I wouldn't hate), so they are no different to me. I do, however, know of someone, dealing with a jewish businessman that had numerous hassles of collecting money after services were paid for. I'm sure this doesn't summarize all jewish business people, but I think its worth a mention.

vash
 

BeauJangles

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Jewish people originally earned their bad reputation in Europe because they weren't christian and, as time passed, this became critically important. The Catholic Church banned collecting interest on money as "heretical". This, however, didn't apply to the Jews (obviously). They started money-lending companies, banks, and other financial institutions, giving them great wealth. People resented them because they forced everyone to pay up and were often considered 'stingy' with high interest rates and small amounts of time to pay it off. Eventually, this lead to the hatred we saw in World War II.
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: vash
I don't have j00! Heck, I don't even know j00!

Seriously now, a lot of hate comes from people believing jews have a lot of money, are stingy with it and are quite good at getting more money with their money. Think of it for a second, when was the last time you saw a jewish person collecting welfare? Not every jewish person I know is well off, but many are all educated (many professional Dr's, lawyers) and come from a family of wealth, knowing many other families of wealth. Once you start with wealth and education, you strive for the same for your children, so they, in turn, grow up with the same.

The other part of people hating jewish people comes from them controlling a lot of media (TV, radio, etc). This stereotype comes from some arabs from the mideast. They believe that because the jews control all the US media, the US people will never see what is happening to the Palestinian people (which jewish owned/operated station would show what Israeli's killing Arabs).

That's a good one! Have you ever seen how that media portrays Arabs? If they tried that some level of stereotyping for Jews, they'd be rightfully blasted for their anti-semitism. They have some grounds for being a bit paranoid.

 

Maverick

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Europeans have hated Jews for a long time...didn't France just hand over their Jews to Hitler, no questions asked? Eastern European Jews got the shaft from Stalin too. As to why, its because they were a closed off community that had lots of money and they were blamed as the ones who "killed" jesus.