Two wrongs don't make a right.Originally posted by: Sleestak
You mean like how Reagan wasn't President during Clinton's terms in office but that didn't stop the Democrats from dragging his name through the mud every 3.2 seconds? Once again the Democrats prove that they don't like Republicans to play by the same rules they do. Oh it's fine for a Democrat to attack a Republican ex President but God forbid a Republican attack and ex Democrat President.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Two wrongs don't make a right.Originally posted by: Sleestak
You mean like how Reagan wasn't President during Clinton's terms in office but that didn't stop the Democrats from dragging his name through the mud every 3.2 seconds? Once again the Democrats prove that they don't like Republicans to play by the same rules they do. Oh it's fine for a Democrat to attack a Republican ex President but God forbid a Republican attack and ex Democrat President.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.
The Bush apologists keep attacking Clinton because it's the only thing they can do. The more you bash Clinton, the more it proves Bush is indefensible. Either defend Bush on his own merits or concede that he's a failure.
Why, because you said so? If I say you're wrong and stupid, does that make it the truth?Originally posted by: etech
That was the response I expected, it's also wrong and stupid but thanks for playing.Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
It shows how bad people feel the situation with this administration is.Originally posted by: etech
Why do people say they will vote for any democratic presidential nominee in the next election no matter who they are or what their policies may be?
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Why, because you said so? If I say you're wrong and stupid, does that make it the truth?Originally posted by: etech
That was the response I expected, it's also wrong and stupid but thanks for playing.Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
It shows how bad people feel the situation with this administration is.Originally posted by: etech
Why do people say they will vote for any democratic presidential nominee in the next election no matter who they are or what their policies may be?
In my opinion, it's the same old same old. You Bushies rely almost 100% on shouting down your opposition. You call names, you slur character, you change the subject, you wave the flag and chant your support of Bush-lite, but you don't offer substance to support your positions and you almost never respond to specific positions and questions raised. You call us sheep, yet you're the ones who mindlessly bleat on and on about how stupid and partisan we are without ever offering anything yourselves.
If Bush is as wonderful as you claim, you should have no problem supporting him and defending his actions with positive, factual information. Every time you resort to personal attacks and refuse to respond to specific claims, you reinforce the view that he is indefensible.
Yes, dear, whatever you say.Originally posted by: etech
Wrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are not devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Two wrongs don't make a right.
The Bush apologists keep attacking Clinton because it's the only thing they can do. The more you bash Clinton, the more it proves Bush is indefensible. Either defend Bush on his own merits or concede that he's a failure.
Step up and accept your reward from the DNC proudly Bowfinger, you are earning it.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Why, because you said so? If I say you're wrong and stupid, does that make it the truth?Originally posted by: etech
That was the response I expected, it's also wrong and stupid but thanks for playing.Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
It shows how bad people feel the situation with this administration is.Originally posted by: etech
Why do people say they will vote for any democratic presidential nominee in the next election no matter who they are or what their policies may be?
In my opinion, it's the same old same old. You Bushies rely almost 100% on shouting down your opposition. You call names, you slur character, you change the subject, you wave the flag and chant your support of Bush-lite, but you don't offer substance to support your positions and you almost never respond to specific positions and questions raised. You call us sheep, yet you're the ones who mindlessly bleat on and on about how stupid and partisan we are without ever offering anything yourselves.
If Bush is as wonderful as you claim, you should have no problem supporting him and defending his actions with positive, factual information. Every time you resort to personal attacks and refuse to respond to specific claims, you reinforce the view that he is indefensible.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yes, dear, whatever you say.Originally posted by: etech
Wrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are not devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Two wrongs don't make a right.
The Bush apologists keep attacking Clinton because it's the only thing they can do. The more you bash Clinton, the more it proves Bush is indefensible. Either defend Bush on his own merits or concede that he's a failure.
Step up and accept your reward from the DNC proudly Bowfinger, you are earning it.
Thanks for helping to prove my point. You are unable to defend Bush so you attack me.
I've stated many times that Clinton lied. Do you have the integrity to make the same concession re. Bush? Didn't think so.
Pick a thread, any thread.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Why, because you said so? If I say you're wrong and stupid, does that make it the truth?Originally posted by: etech
That was the response I expected, it's also wrong and stupid but thanks for playing.Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
It shows how bad people feel the situation with this administration is.Originally posted by: etech
Why do people say they will vote for any democratic presidential nominee in the next election no matter who they are or what their policies may be?
In my opinion, it's the same old same old. You Bushies rely almost 100% on shouting down your opposition. You call names, you slur character, you change the subject, you wave the flag and chant your support of Bush-lite, but you don't offer substance to support your positions and you almost never respond to specific positions and questions raised. You call us sheep, yet you're the ones who mindlessly bleat on and on about how stupid and partisan we are without ever offering anything yourselves.
If Bush is as wonderful as you claim, you should have no problem supporting him and defending his actions with positive, factual information. Every time you resort to personal attacks and refuse to respond to specific claims, you reinforce the view that he is indefensible.
Where are your specific claims and the documentation to back them up.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Pick a thread, any thread.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Why, because you said so? If I say you're wrong and stupid, does that make it the truth?Originally posted by: etech
That was the response I expected, it's also wrong and stupid but thanks for playing.Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
It shows how bad people feel the situation with this administration is.Originally posted by: etech
Why do people say they will vote for any democratic presidential nominee in the next election no matter who they are or what their policies may be?
In my opinion, it's the same old same old. You Bushies rely almost 100% on shouting down your opposition. You call names, you slur character, you change the subject, you wave the flag and chant your support of Bush-lite, but you don't offer substance to support your positions and you almost never respond to specific positions and questions raised. You call us sheep, yet you're the ones who mindlessly bleat on and on about how stupid and partisan we are without ever offering anything yourselves.
If Bush is as wonderful as you claim, you should have no problem supporting him and defending his actions with positive, factual information. Every time you resort to personal attacks and refuse to respond to specific claims, you reinforce the view that he is indefensible.
Where are your specific claims and the documentation to back them up.
But how about we start here, in this message? You claim that it is "wrong and stupid" for people to feel the situation with the Bush administration is so bad. Why? What makes it "wrong and stupid"? How is this administration NOT so bad that it makes them "wrong and stupid"? Defend it. Stop attacking the people who disagree with you and support this administration -- if you can.
In short, you dodged my question before. Now answer it: "Why, because you said so?"
Bush-lite's lies are also a matter of public record, and have become extremely well-documented over the last few weeks. The only difference is that Bush hasn't been taken to court . . . yet. Do you not have the integrity to see there is no moral difference?Originally posted by: etech
You have not proved that Pres. Bush lied.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I've stated many times that Clinton lied. Do you have the integrity to make the same concession re. Bush? Didn't think so.
Clintons lies are a matter of public record and have been proven.
Do you not have the sense to see the difference?
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Bush-lite's lies are also a matter of public record, and have become extremely well-documented over the last few weeks. The only difference is that Bush hasn't been taken to court . . . yet. Do you not have the integrity to see there is no moral difference?Originally posted by: etech
You have not proved that Pres. Bush lied.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I've stated many times that Clinton lied. Do you have the integrity to make the same concession re. Bush? Didn't think so.
Clintons lies are a matter of public record and have been proven.
Do you not have the sense to see the difference?
A lie is a lie is a lie, whether it has been "proven" in court or not. You would show more integrity if you conceded Bush lied, but claimed it was justified to serve the greater good, rather than continuing to pretend he was honest.
(By the way, Clinton's lie didn't kill thousands of people and turn this country into an international pariah. Do you not have the sense to see the difference?)
See, that wasn't so hard. And I actually agree with you. If people vote for NOT-Bush, no matter how noxious NOT-Bush might be, that would be wrong and stupid in my opinion.Originally posted by: etech
The question was why people would vote for any person no matter who they are or what their policies were in the next election. Your reply was that "It shows how bad people feel the situation with this administration is."
So they state they would elect anyone, no matter what their qualifications, stated goals or whatever just to get rid of Pres. Bush. That is the type of blind partinship that I feel is dangerous and you seem to be a prime example.
Your prerogative, of course. It's a free country.Originally posted by: etech
Really, document each of his lies and prove it as a matter of public record that it was a lie and that he knew it was a lie. You can say say say it was a lie lie lie but then I expect no more from you. Prove it or it is just your opinion. I see no reason to hold your opinion in any esteem.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Bush-lite's lies are also a matter of public record, and have become extremely well-documented over the last few weeks. The only difference is that Bush hasn't been taken to court . . . yet. Do you not have the integrity to see there is no moral difference?
A lie is a lie is a lie, whether it has been "proven" in court or not. You would show more integrity if you conceded Bush lied, but claimed it was justified to serve the greater good, rather than continuing to pretend he was honest.
(By the way, Clinton's lie didn't kill thousands of people and turn this country into an international pariah. Do you not have the sense to see the difference?)
When you can do that, get back to me. I won't be holding my breath.
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Your prerogative, of course. It's a free country.Originally posted by: etech
Really, document each of his lies and prove it as a matter of public record that it was a lie and that he knew it was a lie. You can say say say it was a lie lie lie but then I expect no more from you. Prove it or it is just your opinion. I see no reason to hold your opinion in any esteem.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Bush-lite's lies are also a matter of public record, and have become extremely well-documented over the last few weeks. The only difference is that Bush hasn't been taken to court . . . yet. Do you not have the integrity to see there is no moral difference?
A lie is a lie is a lie, whether it has been "proven" in court or not. You would show more integrity if you conceded Bush lied, but claimed it was justified to serve the greater good, rather than continuing to pretend he was honest.
(By the way, Clinton's lie didn't kill thousands of people and turn this country into an international pariah. Do you not have the sense to see the difference?)
When you can do that, get back to me. I won't be holding my breath.
Nonetheless, the evidence is abundant, and it's growing by the day. Some people are slower than others, but the American public is gradually awakening to what the rest of the world knew from the beginning: Iraq did NOT have nukes, Iraq had no conncetion to 9/11, Iraq had little if any remaining chemical and biological weapons capabilities, and Iraq was no threat to world security. Bush and his minions repeatedly claimed otherwise. They were lying.
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
Wrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
If it is true that Bush purposely lied to the Nation and the world about Iraq I'd say his lies were on a magnitude 100 times worse than Clintons and much more damaging to the US and the world. Of course these lies are so far just alleged. But if proven true then Bush should and would go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents ever.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
I wish you wouldn't make up lies about what I posted.
I saidWrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If it is true that Bush purposely lied to the Nation and the world about Iraq I'd say his lies were on a magnitude 100 times worse than Clintons and much more damaging to the US and the world. Of course these lies are so far just alleged. But if proven true then Bush should and would go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents ever.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
I wish you wouldn't make up lies about what I posted.
I saidWrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
Clinton but it's assumed by the vast majority that all politicians are liars and Clinton's lies about his sexual escapades weren't surprising. Now if Bush or his Associates are proven to have blatantly lied those lies would make Clinton's seem as trivial as they actually were.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If it is true that Bush purposely lied to the Nation and the world about Iraq I'd say his lies were on a magnitude 100 times worse than Clintons and much more damaging to the US and the world. Of course these lies are so far just alleged. But if proven true then Bush should and would go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents ever.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
I wish you wouldn't make up lies about what I posted.
I saidWrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
Red, the point is of course, that they are still alleged yet some on this board are stating as fact that Pres. Bush lied.
Who is the known liar in those two groups?
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If it is true that Bush purposely lied to the Nation and the world about Iraq I'd say his lies were on a magnitude 100 times worse than Clintons and much more damaging to the US and the world. Of course these lies are so far just alleged. But if proven true then Bush should and would go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents ever.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
I wish you wouldn't make up lies about what I posted.
I saidWrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Clinton but it's assumed by the vast majority that all politicians are liars and Clinton's lies about his sexual escapades weren't surprising. Now if Bush or his Associates are proven to have blatantly lied those lies would make Clinton's seem as trivial as they actually were.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If it is true that Bush purposely lied to the Nation and the world about Iraq I'd say his lies were on a magnitude 100 times worse than Clintons and much more damaging to the US and the world. Of course these lies are so far just alleged. But if proven true then Bush should and would go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents ever.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
I wish you wouldn't make up lies about what I posted.
I saidWrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
Red, the point is of course, that they are still alleged yet some on this board are stating as fact that Pres. Bush lied.
Who is the known liar in those two groups?
You think the Dems stand a chance of winning?Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If it is true that Bush purposely lied to the Nation and the world about Iraq I'd say his lies were on a magnitude 100 times worse than Clintons and much more damaging to the US and the world. Of course these lies are so far just alleged. But if proven true then Bush should and would go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents ever.Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
There we go again. If I had a dollar for every time someone justified Bush's actions by attacking Clinton, I could have bought my own President by now.Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh wow, you know, you're right! Bush is the President. You're a real genius. I guess that means nobody brings up Bush in response to criticism of Clinton, then.How about giving it a few more milliseconds and trying again. Clinton isn't the president. Bush is. Seems like a significant difference.![]()
I'm sorry that so many of you are so lame that this is the only way you can defend Bush. As etech explained so nicely, you're just "wrong and stupid" if your only criteria for supporting Bush is that he's NOT-Clinton. Granted I can't find any intelligent reasons to support Bush either . . . but that's why I don't
I wish you wouldn't make up lies about what I posted.
I saidWrong, the only reason to bring up Clinton and his lies is to point out the hypocrisy of the ones that are devoting their lives to bashing Pres. Bush.
I would have to agree, but as long as the reconstruction of Iraq is successull, history will be very forgiving. That being said, democrats had better starting putting a iraq reconstruction plan together just in case they win 04.