Why do people (Americans) like guns so much?

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Amused
Because the right to self defense = freedom.

Because guns give the people the same power as the government.

Because no population can truly be free if it is unarmed and defenseless.

:thumbsup:
Well said.

 

[TipsyMcStagger]

Defense for myself and family members.

You think some guy that breaks into my house/holds me up/rapes someone is going to let me call 911? by the time the police arrive, the damage will already be done.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN
I never said I felt you shouldn?t or couldn?t have weapons, I was just wondering why. And I hoped one of you right wingers could explain it to me.... I guess you cant.

Here is another question for you, why is it when someone of a different school of though asks a question it results in personal attack on them? What are you so unsure of yourself that you cant answer my question without attacking me b/c of my views?

Where did I call you any names or attempt to belittle you in anyway? You use the term "right wingers" so who is making the attacks? My statement is correct and I stand by it. Your support of Kerry demonstrates that you are not going to understand the gun debate in any way shape or form. You are trolling for controversy. This issue has been beat to death here. It isn't an insult but it is the reality of your politcal position, at least it is an observation with a high degree of confidence because I have never met a liberal that was a proponent of gun ownership. I'm sure there are some liberals somewhere that are into guns and kudos to them, but I have not come across any.

I am not unsure of myself, I know exactly how I feel and why I feel that way. You won't understand and will never agree so I am not going to waste a bunch of verbage trying to make you see the light because it is never going to happen unless you have an epiphany and realize Kerry is a complete moron and the Democractic Party is an evil entity that prefers a subjugated populace.

 

[Whitecloak]

to compensate for lack of something?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN
I never said I felt you shouldn?t or couldn?t have weapons, I was just wondering why. And I hoped one of you right wingers could explain it to me.... I guess you cant.

Here is another question for you, why is it when someone of a different school of though asks a question it results in personal attack on them? What are you so unsure of yourself that you cant answer my question without attacking me b/c of my views?

Where did I call you any names or attempt to belittle you in anyway? You use the term "right wingers" so who is making the attacks? My statement is correct and I stand by it. Your support of Kerry demonstrates that you are not going to understand the gun debate in any way shape or form. You are trolling for controversy. This issue has been beat to death here. It isn't an insult but it is the reality of your politcal position, at least it is an observation with a high degree of confidence because I have never met a liberal that was a proponent of gun ownership. I'm sure there are some liberals somewhere that are into guns and kudos to them, but I have not come across any.

I am not unsure of myself, I know exactly how I feel and why I feel that way. You won't understand and will never agree so I am not going to waste a bunch of verbage trying to make you see the light because it is never going to happen unless you have an epiphany and realize Kerry is a complete moron and the Democractic Party is an evil entity that prefers a subjugated populace.

:Q

You might want to switch to decaf. 😀

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: K1052
:Q

You might want to switch to decaf. 😀

I don't drink coffee or any caffeinated drink for that matter but I get real tired of the same rhetoric from the left with no substantiation for their beliefs other than it "feels good".

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: K1052
:Q

You might want to switch to decaf. 😀

I don't drink coffee or any caffeinated drink for that matter but I get real tired of the same rhetoric from the left with no substantiation for their beliefs other than it "feels good".

Think of the chiiiiildren!


😀

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: K1052
:Q

You might want to switch to decaf. 😀

I don't drink coffee or any caffeinated drink for that matter but I get real tired of the same rhetoric from the left with no substantiation for their beliefs other than it "feels good".

Think of the chiiiiildren!


😀

Now that's one of my personal favorites.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: K1052
:Q

You might want to switch to decaf. 😀

I don't drink coffee or any caffeinated drink for that matter but I get real tired of the same rhetoric from the left with no substantiation for their beliefs other than it "feels good".

Think of the chiiiiildren!


😀

Now that's one of my personal favorites.

Yep, more rhetoric that is designed to be indefensible and if you don't agree with exactly what they say you are a barbarian. Good example.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Such a question form a coward with no profile.

Coward? I have no profile so I am a coward? What do I need one to ask a simple question?

We just want to know where you're from...

It helps us whack jobs formulate a response.

Kalifornia residents get a different response than UK residents😉

North Carolina

Wait..so the ECU in your name stands for East Carolina...


THAT explains everything.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: Amused

This is a myth. History is FULL of examples of armed citizens defeating mighty armies.

The fact is, nothing is more dangerous to a standing army than an armed populace.

Afghanistan vs the USSR is the most recent example.

This is also the reason why the Japanese didn't attempt to invade the USA after bombing Pearl Harbor (from what I've read)...

That would have been a joke.

 

[Isshinryu]

Because collecting and shooting them make a good hobby.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: Amused

This is a myth. History is FULL of examples of armed citizens defeating mighty armies.

The fact is, nothing is more dangerous to a standing army than an armed populace.

Afghanistan vs the USSR is the most recent example.

This is also the reason why the Japanese didn't attempt to invade mainland USA...

Though to be fair, that was never really a goal.

Yep. The Japanese simply wanted to force the US to sue for peace. They never intended to win the war, much less invade the mainland US.

However, it IS a reason why Switzerland has never been invaded since Napoleon.

It is also the main reason why we never put ground troops in Bosnia.

Too bad we didn't use that same logic in Somalia.

 

[jjones]

Because they are cool and do have practical application. The bigger and more badass, the better. It's like having a huge 24" penis to wave around to the admiration of all the ladies, and yet you can still piss out of it. 😛

 

[brigden]

Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: brigden
Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

Because in many cases, law enforcement doesn't protect, they just clean up the mess afterwards.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Fine, you want a hand gun to protect yourself and your home. I agree.

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Fine, you want a hand gun to protect yourself and your home. I agree.

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

The words "life, liberty and property" spring to mind. An armed citizenry is the last defense against an oppressive government and the protection of personal rights.

Also, see sig.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Fine, you want a hand gun to protect yourself and your home. I agree.

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

The entire concept of Canada is laughable but we leave you alone. I don't necessarily buy into the need for guns to keep the government at bay but in all countries where guns are illegal the government is much more intrusive. BTW....don't you have some clothes shopping to do?

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Fine, you want a hand gun to protect yourself and your home. I agree.

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

The words "life, liberty and property" spring to mind. An armed citizenry is the last defense against an oppressive government and the protection of personal rights.

Also, see sig.

I'd have an easier time empathizing with you 150 years ago. Give me a break.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Fine, you want a hand gun to protect yourself and your home. I agree.

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

The words "life, liberty and property" spring to mind. An armed citizenry is the last defense against an oppressive government and the protection of personal rights.

Also, see sig.

I'd have an easier time empathizing with you 150 years ago. Give me a break.

Because the future is set in stone for all to see, right?

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: brigden
Many of you list the ?right to bare arms? as being analogous to freedom, but do you see the prohibition of child pornography as an infringement of your rights? Too extreme? What about the prohibition of drugs? Does that infringe on your individual rights?

Why do you feel the need to be armed for protection when that?s the duty of law enforcement and the armed forces?

OK, you don?t have faith in the law enforcement and want a gun to protect yourself. I fully understand that. It?s a real shame that you live in a country where you feel the need to arm yourself for protection. That having been said, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle to protect yourself?

I appreciate gun collecting, but I don?t understand the romance of it. I also believe many people use ?collecting? as a justification for owning many assault weapons, of which there really is no justification.

I appreciate shooting weapons, and I?ve done it myself, but again, I don?t understand the romance of it.

Anyone that lists ?keeping the government at bay? or any such similar response as a reason why they keep guns is flat out a complete and utter moron.

As noted by jjones, the job of the police 9 times out of 10 is to take care of the aftermath.

Speaking as "a complete and utter moron", you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Fine, you want a hand gun to protect yourself and your home. I agree.

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

The words "life, liberty and property" spring to mind. An armed citizenry is the last defense against an oppressive government and the protection of personal rights.

Also, see sig.

I'd have an easier time empathizing with you 150 years ago. Give me a break.

Because the future is set in stone for all to see, right?

You're exercising one of the weakest arguments I've ever had the pleasure of coming across. Do you honestly live in fear, however mild, that the government is going to put you in a position where a gun is the only answer?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: brigden

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

You old enough to remember Gordon Kahl?

Now there was a world class loon & an example of law enforcement being too aggressive🙁

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: brigden

However, if you think that Americans should bare arms to keep the government from taking their land you qualify for one of the single most moronic people I've come into contact with.

The entire concept is laughable.

You old enough to remember Gordon Kahl?

Now there was a world class loon & an example of law enforcement being too aggressive🙁

That case is pretty cut and dry if you ask me.